Known Liar&Cheater Ryan Braun Caught Lying&Cheating Again

[UMFan83]

"MLB and cable sports tried to sully the reputation of an innocent man. Picked the wrong guy to mess with. Truth will set you free."

 

pro athletes of wisconsin unite against the establishment.

 

"You picked the wrong guy to mess with. This guy found a technicality!"

[mookie]

It seems like there is a lot of grey area involved in this situation. I find it pretty hard to not straddle the fence on this one for the time being.

[erik316wttn]

It seems like there is a lot of grey area involved in this situation. I find it pretty hard to not straddle the fence on this one for the time being.

 

At least until we know more. I know, I've already posted once for Braun and once against him in this very thread, but I will refrain from any more opinion on this matter until all of the facts are out there.

 

However, IF, (and that's a big "IF") the thing about MLB turning down Braun's offer of a DNA test is indeed true, that's grounds for a big-time lawsuit as it sounds like they were fully prepared to railroad him despite having possible evidence of his innocence.

[SouthSideRyan]

However, IF, (and that's a big "IF") the thing about MLB turning down Braun's offer of a DNA test is indeed true, that's grounds for a big-time lawsuit as it sounds like they were fully prepared to railroad him despite having possible evidence of his innocence.

 

Well, no.

[Guest]

However, IF, (and that's a big "IF") the thing about MLB turning down Braun's offer of a DNA test is indeed true, that's grounds for a big-time lawsuit as it sounds like they were fully prepared to railroad him despite having possible evidence of his innocence.

 

No one thinks the sample was tampered with, a DNA test wouldn't do anything for his guilt or innocence.

[SouthSideRyan]

However, IF, (and that's a big "IF") the thing about MLB turning down Braun's offer of a DNA test is indeed true, that's grounds for a big-time lawsuit as it sounds like they were fully prepared to railroad him despite having possible evidence of his innocence.

 

No one thinks the sample was tampered with, a DNA test wouldn't do anything for his guilt or innocence.

 

I've already seen people suggest on BTF that it was tampered with.

[Guest]

I meant the parties involved, not that every loon on the internet agreed. If there was any chance it was tampered with, we’d be talking about that instead of FedEx’s weekend hours.

[Guest]

@VictorConte My opinion. Braun used testosterone. Urine & result are valid. Source claim "insanely high." Untrue. Only 20 to1 T/E ratio. Others 80 to 1

 

@VictorConte The test collector watched Braun pee in the container and it was sealed. Both A & B tested positive for testosterone plus CIR confirmation.

 

@VictorConte My Opinion. Braun's people are blowing smoke. Both A & B sample positive w/ CIR confirmation. MLB "flawed" technical policy will change soon

 

@VictorConte My opinion. Braun's positive drug test for testosterone was not overturned. Simply a procedure error was made by MLB. Braun tested positive

 

@VictorConte I believe fast acting testosterone use is rampant in MLB. Even 4 to 1 T/E ratio is easy to beat. CIR screening is needed on all samples

 

@VictorConte My opinion. Floyd Landis case like Braun case. A & B samples w/ elevated T/E ratio. CIR confirms "synthetic" testosterone. Lots of smoke

[SouthSideRyan]

brb, tweeting all those to Rodgers.

[Theo]

Found this to one of the more "ironic" tweets out there

‏ @ClayMatthews52

 

Happy for my friend Ryan Braun. EXONERATED by the TRUTH!!

 

[erik316wttn]

Because if Victor Conte says it, it HAS to be true!

[jersey cubs fan]

there's a lot of people in wisconsin ingesting anything to puff up, and they all have each other's back

[SouthSideRyan]

lolerik

[Tryptamine]

So is the only possible scenario that proves Braun didn't legitimately test positive one in which the courier tampered with the sample now? I thought they found synthetic steroids in the sample. I don't care how long you refrigerate a sample, synthetic steroids do not just appear.

[SouthSideRyan]

So is the only possible scenario that proves Braun didn't legitimately test positive one in which the courier tampered with the sample now? I thought they found synthetic steroids in the sample. I don't care how long you refrigerate a sample, synthetic steroids do not just appear.

 

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

So is the only possible scenario that proves Braun didn't legitimately test positive one in which the courier tampered with the sample now? I thought they found synthetic steroids in the sample. I don't care how long you refrigerate a sample, synthetic steroids do not just appear.

 

 

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

 

/brewersfansanderik

[chuckywang]

Here's something on my mind that I don't think anybody has talked about yet: Even if the collector dropped the sample off late Saturday night at Fedex, it probably would not have been actually shipped until Monday. It all depends on the timing of the Fedex truck that picks up packages at that specific Fedex location. Perhaps the collector knew that he was too late for the Saturday pickup and thought the sample was better off sitting in his fridge than in some Fedex location for 2 days? That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

[Ryne Ween]

Ive been looking for a reasont o hate aaron rodgers for a while now.

[UMFan83]

Here's something on my mind that I don't think anybody has talked about yet: Even if the collector dropped the sample off late Saturday night at Fedex, it probably would not have been actually shipped until Monday. It all depends on the timing of the Fedex truck that picks up packages at that specific Fedex location. Perhaps the collector knew that he was too late for the Saturday pickup and thought the sample was better off sitting in his fridge than in some Fedex location for 2 days? That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

 

I used to work at Kinkos/FedEx and at least when I worked there, they had special delivery options for people sending medical related things such as blood or organs (yes they sometimes ship organs via FedEx) and those are obviously picked up and delivered immediately. It costs a fortune but its very reliable. I am assuming that urine samples can be sent via this option as well.

[UMFan83]

It's gonna be really interesting to track Braun's performance this year now that he is (presumably) not cheating anymore.

 

Also, if he ever tests positive on a test again, he's going to be one of the biggest villians in baseball. I sit eagerly waiting for this to happen.

[Smack]

It's gonna be really interesting to track Braun's performance this year now that he is (presumably) not cheating anymore.

 

Also, if he ever tests positive on a test again, he's going to be one of the biggest villians in baseball. I sit eagerly waiting for this to happen.

 

Yeah, he better be mentally tough. If he comes out of the gate slow all hell is going to be unleashed on him from the media and non-Brewers fans.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ive been looking for a reasont o hate aaron rodgers for a while now.

 

Really? I've never had much trouble finding any. Even if he didn't do that stupid title belt thing his green and yellow football uniform would be enough for me.

[Little Slide Rooter]

It's gonna be really interesting to track Braun's performance this year now that he is (presumably) not cheating anymore.

 

Also, if he ever tests positive on a test again, he's going to be one of the biggest villians in baseball. I sit eagerly waiting for this to happen.

 

Yeah, he better be mentally tough. If he comes out of the gate slow all hell is going to be unleashed on him from the media and non-Brewers fans.

 

But on the other hand, if his numbers don't decline, he'll reserve the right to be an even bigger douche than he already is.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

The year before his possible steroid abuse, Braun had the worst offensive season of his young career. He was a bit banged up but still played in 157 games. His 25 homers were the fewest in his then first four seasons and his RBIs were the fewest of any full season in MLB.

 

The next year, he wins the MVP.

 

This means nothing. But just a note.

[davearm2]

Here's something on my mind that I don't think anybody has talked about yet: Even if the collector dropped the sample off late Saturday night at Fedex, it probably would not have been actually shipped until Monday. It all depends on the timing of the Fedex truck that picks up packages at that specific Fedex location. Perhaps the collector knew that he was too late for the Saturday pickup and thought the sample was better off sitting in his fridge than in some Fedex location for 2 days? That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Obviously the issue here is the chain of custody -- who was in possession of the sample when.

 

The arbitrators must have decided that in terms of the potential for the sample being tampered with or becoming contaminated, there's a difference between it sitting in a sealed FedEx package, in FedEx's possession, and sitting in this guy's fridge where who knows who has access to it.

 

Setting aside the Braun vitriol, I would hope we could all agree that having a urine sample sitting for days in some dude's fridge between collection and analysis is not a very wise testing protocol.