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The investment world is full of guys who found a market inefficiency, got rich, watched the market catch on, and spent the rest of their lives trying in vain to replicate the success.

 

I still think Beane looks like one of those guys to me.

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I vaguely remember stories about how Billy Beane has become a bit disenfranchised with baseball (now that everyone has adopted his ideas) and has somewhat moved on (mentally, at least) to soccer. Its probably total speculation and I can't even remember how old the article was, so its probably bunk. Just something that had occurred to me during this process...

 

I recall reading that. I think it was 2-3 years ago.

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Yea, I'm honestly not all that interested in Beane at this point. Especially not compared to the other possibilities.
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wow, olney really seems convinced we're going to get a huge name.

 

Not surprising... this is one of the top few jobs available in baseball with as much $$$ as the Cubs bring in.

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I vaguely remember stories about how Billy Beane has become a bit disenfranchised with baseball (now that everyone has adopted his ideas) and has somewhat moved on (mentally, at least) to soccer. Its probably total speculation and I can't even remember how old the article was, so its probably bunk. Just something that had occurred to me during this process...

 

I heard this too, and it's probably not so crazy to believe even if it's just a vague memory. Soccer is the next great frontier in American sports. Guys like Beane would be very interested in getting in on the proverbial ground floor.

 

As someone who doesn't "get it" with soccer, I hope America gets bored of sports and moves onto math and science before soccer goes crazy here. Though I guess it's infinitely better than our dumbass version of football and it's 12 minutes of game time.

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I vaguely remember stories about how Billy Beane has become a bit disenfranchised with baseball (now that everyone has adopted his ideas) and has somewhat moved on (mentally, at least) to soccer. Its probably total speculation and I can't even remember how old the article was, so its probably bunk. Just something that had occurred to me during this process...

 

I heard this too, and it's probably not so crazy to believe even if it's just a vague memory. Soccer is the next great frontier in American sports. Guys like Beane would be very interested in getting in on the proverbial ground floor.

 

As someone who doesn't "get it" with soccer, I hope America gets bored of sports and moves onto math and science before soccer goes crazy here. Though I guess it's infinitely better than our dumbass version of football and it's 12 minutes of game time.

 

I have no idea what the heck any of this is supposed to mean.

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I vaguely remember stories about how Billy Beane has become a bit disenfranchised with baseball (now that everyone has adopted his ideas) and has somewhat moved on (mentally, at least) to soccer. Its probably total speculation and I can't even remember how old the article was, so its probably bunk. Just something that had occurred to me during this process...

 

I heard this too, and it's probably not so crazy to believe even if it's just a vague memory. Soccer is the next great frontier in American sports. Guys like Beane would be very interested in getting in on the proverbial ground floor.

 

As someone who doesn't "get it" with soccer, I hope America gets bored of sports and moves onto math and science before soccer goes crazy here. Though I guess it's infinitely better than our dumbass version of football and it's 12 minutes of game time.

 

He probably loves the transfer system setup in soccer. Buy players when they are kids for pennies on the $ and sell them high for a couple of million 3-8 years down the road. Of course this works a little bit better in Europe vs. MLS but its getting better.

 

Like Jersey, I really have no idea what you mean.

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Billy Beane is completely obsessed with soccer.

 

He's not the only one. IIRC both Yankees and Red Sox ownership have bought small chunks of ownership of a couple teams in Europe.

I've never heard that about the Yankees, but John Henry from the Red Sox owns a huge piece of Liverpool FC. The Glazer family (TB Bucs) owns the majority of Manchester United.

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I vaguely remember stories about how Billy Beane has become a bit disenfranchised with baseball (now that everyone has adopted his ideas) and has somewhat moved on (mentally, at least) to soccer. Its probably total speculation and I can't even remember how old the article was, so its probably bunk. Just something that had occurred to me during this process...

 

I heard this too, and it's probably not so crazy to believe even if it's just a vague memory. Soccer is the next great frontier in American sports. Guys like Beane would be very interested in getting in on the proverbial ground floor.

 

As someone who doesn't "get it" with soccer, I hope America gets bored of sports and moves onto math and science before soccer goes crazy here. Though I guess it's infinitely better than our dumbass version of football and it's 12 minutes of game time.

 

He probably loves the transfer system setup in soccer. Buy players when they are kids for pennies on the $ and sell them high for a couple of million 3-8 years down the road. Of course this works a little bit better in Europe vs. MLS but its getting better.

 

Like Jersey, I really have no idea what you mean.

 

I did write that like a hack/lazy person:

 

- Soccer is easy to make fun of.

 

- American football, while entertaining in its 12-15 minutes of actual football, is both dangerous and mind numbing.

 

- Beane, as mentioned before, is probably interested since everyone in baseball is pretty much heading in the same direction with the big difference being money.

 

- I'd be happier if society was a little less sport-centric, but I guess it doesn't really matter (could just ignore it).

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Jon Heyman throws water on the Olney stuff....

 

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hearing rick hahn and josh byrnes for cubs gm job. cashman/beane/epstein long shots to go, friedman not 2 likely either

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Billy Beane is completely obsessed with soccer.

 

If Billy Beane doesn't like the gap between the rich teams and the poor teams in MLB, he's gonna hate top level club soccer.

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Billy Beane is completely obsessed with soccer.

 

He's not the only one. IIRC both Yankees and Red Sox ownership have bought small chunks of ownership of a couple teams in Europe.

I've never heard that about the Yankees, but John Henry from the Red Sox owns a huge piece of Liverpool FC. The Glazer family (TB Bucs) owns the majority of Manchester United.

 

I think the Yankees have some sort of co marketing deal with United as well.

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Billy Beane is completely obsessed with soccer.

 

He's not the only one. IIRC both Yankees and Red Sox ownership have bought small chunks of ownership of a couple teams in Europe.

I've never heard that about the Yankees, but John Henry from the Red Sox owns a huge piece of Liverpool FC. The Glazer family (TB Bucs) owns the majority of Manchester United.

 

I think the Yankees have some sort of co marketing deal with United as well.

 

Yep, but I am not sure if they still have that going on. Barca and Real will be next, I'm actually surprised Jerry Jones hasn't partnered up with one of them yet. Seeing what ManU just inked for their training jersey's shows how much more marketing potential soccer has and that hasn't yet even hit a fraction of what it should be in the US.

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Jon Heyman throws water on the Olney stuff....

 

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

hearing rick hahn and josh byrnes for cubs gm job. cashman/beane/epstein long shots to go, friedman not 2 likely either

 

Doesn't change anything. All this tweet proves, at least to me, is that the media has no clue as to what the Cubs will do at GM.

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if the cubs hire josh byrnes, they are going to have a major problem on their hands.

 

there is your retread.

 

+1

 

It's not that he's bad or anything. It's just that the Cubs GM job under new ownership hoping to make a big splash for now and the future isn't going to go with Josh [expletive] Byrnes. He lost out on the Mets job for the same reason IMO. If he comes in and works with/under the incoming guy then sure he's a great candidate for GM after this upcoming GM, but otherwise? Big meh.

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if the cubs hire josh byrnes, they are going to have a major problem on their hands.

 

there is your retread.

 

+1

 

It's not that he's bad or anything. It's just that the Cubs GM job under new ownership hoping to make a big splash for now and the future isn't going to go with Josh [expletive] Byrnes. He lost out on the Mets job for the same reason IMO. If he comes in and works with/under the incoming guy then sure he's a great candidate for GM after this upcoming GM, but otherwise? Big meh.

 

 

SI.com's Jon Heyman mentioned Josh Byrnes, as well as Kevin Towers and Rick Hahn as possibilities to replace Omar Minaya as General Manager of the New York Mets for the 2011 season.

 

This is from Byrnes wiki page. It seems to me all Heyman did was subtract the NY Mets and add Chicago Cubs and posted his tweet as if it was new info.

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LOL Gordon be trollin

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/7261934-419/friedman-colletti-cashman-on-ricketts-radar.html

 

Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts is wasting no time gathering information on potential general manager candidates, talking this week to people in and around baseball about current GMs Andrew Friedman of the Tampa Bay Rays and Ned Colletti of the Los Angeles Dodgers, according to sources.

 

While Colletti is viewed by many as cut from similar old-school-GM cloth as Jim Hendry, one attraction to him, a source said, is the likelihood he would try to bring Ryne Sandberg back to the organization as the Cubs’ manager. Sandberg has told those close to him that with Hendry out, he wouldn’t hesitate to return to the Cubs.

Hendry hired Sandberg to manage in the Cubs’ minor-league system in 2007 when Sandberg sought the Cubs job Lou Piniella got. After four years managing up the Cubs’ chain, Sandberg lost out on the job again to Mike Quade last October.

 

Another long-odds scenario Ricketts has talked about this week, according to sources, is trying to woo New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman and getting a package deal for Cashman and manager Joe Girardi.

 

Cashman and Girardi both are said to be open to leaving New York. Cashman’s contract expires after this season.

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