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[Little Slide Rooter]

Wasting Castro's cheap years is completely unacceptable. Assuming health, in 2 years Castro (while still a huge deal) will start costing actual money. Then you're saying well why sign Votto to a long-term deal, when we're going to have to start paying Castro 8 figures in a couple years!!

 

Albert [expletive] Pujols, no thanks. Holy [expletive].

 

Castro is a nice piece, but he is nowhere near the kind of player you worry about "wasting" his cheap years.

 

That is such an incredibly stupid comment to make. He's exactly the kind of player you worry about wasting his cheap years. Not only is he already far ahead of what anybody could reasonably expect, once he does become expensive, he's going to stay expensive for a long time. He'll be a free agent before he's peaked. That doesn't happen.

 

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

[jersey cubs fan]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

[SouthSideRyan]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

 

Yeah, but does anyone really care what Mike Quade thinks? Even the meatballs who would normally eat this stuff up think he's a clueless buffoon.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

 

I get the feeling that Castro won't have to worry about what Mike Quade says after that year. He's certainly not LaRussa, and he won't be running the best young star we've had in a long time out of town.

[jersey cubs fan]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

 

Yeah, but does anyone really care what Mike Quade thinks? Even the meatballs who would normally eat this stuff up think he's a clueless buffoon.

 

No, not really. But it's not just Quade. It's basically assumed now that Castro is well on his way to becoming a head case. I really doubt a new regime is going to make signing him longterm a high priority in year one.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

 

Yeah, but does anyone really care what Mike Quade thinks? Even the meatballs who would normally eat this stuff up think he's a clueless buffoon.

 

No, not really. But it's not just Quade. It's basically assumed now that Castro is well on his way to becoming a head case. I really doubt a new regime is going to make signing him longterm a high priority in year one.

 

The thing is, this kid was catapulted through the system, and at the age of 21 is viewed as the savior of a mess of a team in a 103 year title drought, and he can't so much as pick his nose without some media meatball or his manger pouncing on him. I'd say the city is more likely to ruin him than he is to ruin the team.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wasting Castro's cheap years is completely unacceptable. Assuming health, in 2 years Castro (while still a huge deal) will start costing actual money. Then you're saying well why sign Votto to a long-term deal, when we're going to have to start paying Castro 8 figures in a couple years!!

 

Albert [expletive] Pujols, no thanks. Holy [expletive].

 

Castro is a nice piece, but he is nowhere near the kind of player you worry about "wasting" his cheap years.

 

Why not? He's already about a 4 win offensive player right now at age 21 and should only increase his power in the next couple years (and already has taken a step up from last year). I'm not saying he's for sure going to be a superstar, but given what he's done so far, it would be stupid to say he is nowhere near that kind of player.

 

If by "4-win offensive player" you mean "on pace for less than 3," sure. And his defense is still a problem.

 

Edit: Well, let's say "on pace for about 3," depending on what site you use.

Edited August 23, 2011 by Hairyducked Idiot

[SouthSideRyan]

Ideally, the new GM is able to give him a team friendly extension, which seems to be the trend for young stars.

 

Maybe after next year. Given the constant complaining by Quade about Castro, I doubt a new regime looks to lock the kid up to what would be a lifetime of security for him and all his family. It would be very risky and open them up to criticism for coddling players and not holding them accountable.

 

Yeah, but does anyone really care what Mike Quade thinks? Even the meatballs who would normally eat this stuff up think he's a clueless buffoon.

 

No, not really. But it's not just Quade. It's basically assumed now that Castro is well on his way to becoming a head case. I really doubt a new regime is going to make signing him longterm a high priority in year one.

 

I feel like we're all snakebit by the previous 20 years of front office dumbassery that we're conditioned to think that's just how things work. I'd like to think that a new front office won't care about what the general public/media think, and will do what's best for the team.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Regardless, they shouldn't be in any hurry to lock him up long-term.

[jersey cubs fan]

I feel like we're all snakebit by the previous 20 years of front office dumbassery that we're conditioned to think that's just how things work. I'd like to think that a new front office won't care about what the general public/media think, and will do what's best for the team.

 

Eventually, sure. But I highly doubt it will be a year one priority.

[sneakypower]

Wasting Castro's cheap years is completely unacceptable. Assuming health, in 2 years Castro (while still a huge deal) will start costing actual money. Then you're saying well why sign Votto to a long-term deal, when we're going to have to start paying Castro 8 figures in a couple years!!

 

Albert [expletive] Pujols, no thanks. Holy [expletive].

 

Castro is a nice piece, but he is nowhere near the kind of player you worry about "wasting" his cheap years.

 

Why not? He's already about a 4 win offensive player right now at age 21 and should only increase his power in the next couple years (and already has taken a step up from last year). I'm not saying he's for sure going to be a superstar, but given what he's done so far, it would be stupid to say he is nowhere near that kind of player.

 

If by "4-win offensive player" you mean "on pace for less than 3," sure. And his defense is still a problem.

 

Edit: Well, let's say "on pace for about 3," depending on what site you use.

bb-ref's WAR is so [expletive] weird; Dante Bichette slugged .620, finished 2nd in MVP voting, and they have him at 0.3 WAR for that season. he OPSed .900 and was -2.8 WAR!

[jersey cubs fan]

bb-ref's WAR is so [expletive] weird; Dante Bichette slugged .620, finished 2nd in MVP voting, and they have him at 0.3 WAR for that season. he OPSed .900 and was -2.8 WAR!

 

Is that weird? He was in Colorado at the peak of their offense friendly era.

[Sammy Sofa]

Please ignore Kyle. He's bad for your health.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Please ignore Starlin Castro's defense, start to care about hit totals, and round up his WAR as much as possible. It's good for your belief that he's a franchise-changing talent in the next few years.

[Guest]

His crappy defense matters.

 

So does the fact that he's shown an (fairly, though not completely, unprecedented) exceptional ability to hit for average at a very young age and appears to be developing the ability to hit for power that his frame suggests he might.

 

He's 21 years old FFS.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

His crappy defense matters.

 

So does the fact that he's shown an (fairly, though not completely, unprecedented) exceptional ability to hit for average at a very young age and appears to be developing the ability to hit for power that his frame suggests he might.

 

He's 21 years old FFS.

 

All of which is very exciting. But he's got one pre-arbitration year left and he's still a 3-WAR player if you take the most generous estimations of his defense and a 2 WAR player if you don't. Not exactly the caliber of player that makes me think "Oh man, you can't possibly afford to waste these sweet cheap pre-FA years."

[Sammy Sofa]

Nobody cares what you think. You're boring.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Nobody cares what you think. You're right and we want to stare at Starlin Castro spray charts.

[Sammy Sofa]

No, we're making spray charts.

[SouthSideRyan]

No, we're making spray charts.

 

On Kyle's face.

[Vinestal]

Nobody cares what you think. You're right and we want to stare at Starlin Castro spray charts.

You go Kyle, someone needs to put Nuts in his place, he's the one no one cares about.

[Little Slide Rooter]

His crappy defense matters.

 

So does the fact that he's shown an (fairly, though not completely, unprecedented) exceptional ability to hit for average at a very young age and appears to be developing the ability to hit for power that his frame suggests he might.

 

He's 21 years old FFS.

 

All of which is very exciting. But he's got one pre-arbitration year left and he's still a 3-WAR player if you take the most generous estimations of his defense and a 2 WAR player if you don't. Not exactly the caliber of player that makes me think "Oh man, you can't possibly afford to waste these sweet cheap pre-FA years."

 

How many 21 year old 3-WAR players are out there? Keep in mind, 21 year old 3-4 WAR players have a good chance to grow up to be 5-6 WAR players, especially once he can get his defense more polished.

Edited August 23, 2011 by Little Slide Rooter

[jersey cubs fan]

His crappy defense matters.

 

So does the fact that he's shown an (fairly, though not completely, unprecedented) exceptional ability to hit for average at a very young age and appears to be developing the ability to hit for power that his frame suggests he might.

 

He's 21 years old FFS.

 

All of which is very exciting. But he's got one pre-arbitration year left and he's still a 3-WAR player if you take the most generous estimations of his defense and a 2 WAR player if you don't. Not exactly the caliber of player that makes me think "Oh man, you can't possibly afford to waste these sweet cheap pre-FA years."

 

You don't seem to understand what the heck people are talking about when they refer to wasting his cheap years.

 

By the time he no longer has any flaws, he'll make $20m a year.

[javy knows my name]

Nobody cares what you think. You're right and we want to stare at Starlin Castro spray charts.

You go Kyle, someone needs to put Nuts in his place, he's the one no one cares about.

 

YES GO GO GO

[Sammy Sofa]

No, we're making spray charts.

 

On Kyle's face.

 

I keep expecting it to stop, but it just...won't.