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There's going to be a slew of articles written about this so I figured having a separate thread similar to the "Cubs Players in the news" thread in the minor league section would be a wise idea since news articles are being bandied about in multiple threads right now.

 

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/6883564/jon-greenberg-chicago-cubs-gm-tom-ricketts-first-big-baseball-decision

- This is basically an Andrew Friedman fluff piece.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/15227/the-guide-to-fixing-the-cubs

- Dave Schoenfields guide to how to fix the Cubs

 

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/6880829/matt-garza-speaks-high-andrew-friedman

- Garza's endorsement for Friedman

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/7205178-417/cubs-interim-gm-ricketts-happy-with-scouting-development-system.html

- Notes how Rickets is happy with the scouting and farm system development.

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Has any Tampa press member asked Friedman about the Cubs job? I live down here and haven't really heard the question asked. Even if he said "no comment" that would be better than saying he wasn't interested. Id like to see the question asked.
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There's no sense in asking a guy currently employed by another team what he thinks about possibly taking another job, let alone a guy who's a GM. Nobody goes up to Pujols expecting him to say how he'd listen if the Cubs came calling.
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There's no sense in asking a guy currently employed by another team what he thinks about possibly taking another job, let alone a guy who's a GM. Nobody goes up to Pujols expecting him to say how he'd listen if the Cubs came calling.

 

The closest thing I can ever recall to someone doing anything along those lines was Mark Buerhle and his overly stated love for the Cardinals.

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There's no sense in asking a guy currently employed by another team what he thinks about possibly taking another job, let alone a guy who's a GM. Nobody goes up to Pujols expecting him to say how he'd listen if the Cubs came calling.

Why not they've asked Cashman in NY. There are plenty of reasons. Even if you don't want to go anywhere you can make it seem more of a possibility if you feign interest. Free agent players play teams against each other all the time in the media. Also, I'm pretty sure people have asked Pujols about being a Cub. Why wouldn't you? Its just part of being a good journalist. 99/100 times they aren't going to give you anything but there is always the chance they might and then you have a pretty interesting new story. Im pretty sure Friedman wouldnt say anything (not going to comment while under contract) or would just say he's not interested in leaving but there's always I chance he might give some indication and there's not harm asking.

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There's no sense in asking a guy currently employed by another team what he thinks about possibly taking another job, let alone a guy who's a GM. Nobody goes up to Pujols expecting him to say how he'd listen if the Cubs came calling.

 

The closest thing I can ever recall to someone doing anything along those lines was Mark Buerhle and his overly stated love for the Cardinals.

 

Wasn't there some report that Jake Peavy was singing the go Cubs go song in a bar or something because he felt sure he'd be a Cub? I could have dreamed that or something but I seem to remember it.

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There's no sense in asking a guy currently employed by another team what he thinks about possibly taking another job, let alone a guy who's a GM. Nobody goes up to Pujols expecting him to say how he'd listen if the Cubs came calling.

Why not they've asked Cashman in NY. There are plenty of reasons. Even if you don't want to go anywhere you can make it seem more of a possibility if you feign interest. Free agent players play teams against each other all the time in the media. Also, I'm pretty sure people have asked Pujols about being a Cub. Why wouldn't you? Its just part of being a good journalist. 99/100 times they aren't going to give you anything but there is always the chance they might and then you have a pretty interesting new story. Im pretty sure Friedman wouldnt say anything (not going to comment while under contract) or would just say he's not interested in leaving but there's always I chance he might give some indication and there's not harm asking.

 

People will ask, but you can't possibly expect to get anything other than a dodge, lie or really cryptic answer. In other words, it's a waste of time.

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It might help to consolidate the Hendry Fired and Ricketts List threads with this one. They're all sort of saying the same thing at this point, aside from that discussion about the A's being worth $2 trillion or whatever.
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I really liked this one. I think this sums up what the Cubs need to do, and are capable of doing:

 

"Develop your own talent and, if you sign a free agent, make sure he’s a star."

 

I agree, a very good article except until the end when he leaves us with this:

Oh, and quit blaming the *&*(#!@ goat.

 

We have, it's the media that keeps hammering this every chance they get.

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I like to this of this job as a dream job, I just wonder if Rosenthal isn't overstating a little how much allure it has to GMs of other teams.

 

 

I don't think so.

 

Huge market. Great sports town. Chance to make history. And, above all else, very deep pockets in a division full of teams who don't have that luxury. Should be an easy division to own if the team is run competently.

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I like to this of this job as a dream job, I just wonder if Rosenthal isn't overstating a little how much allure it has to GMs of other teams.

 

 

I don't think so.

 

Huge market. Great sports town. Chance to make history. And, above all else, very deep pockets in a division full of teams who don't have that luxury. Should be an easy division to own if the team is run competently.

 

Depends on how deep those pockets are. Friedman will think he fell into Scrooge McDuck's room full of gold coins if he took this job, but Cashman wouldn't.

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Relative to his competition, it would be a change for the better for Cashman, too.

 

 

But yea, for Friedman it would be drastically different.

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I like to this of this job as a dream job, I just wonder if Rosenthal isn't overstating a little how much allure it has to GMs of other teams.

 

 

I don't think so.

 

Huge market. Great sports town. Chance to make history. And, above all else, very deep pockets in a division full of teams who don't have that luxury. Should be an easy division to own if the team is run competently.

 

Depends on how deep those pockets are. Friedman will think he fell into Scrooge McDuck's room full of gold coins if he took this job, but Cashman wouldn't.

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The Road Map to a Cubs Resurgence - by Jonah Keri, the guy that wrote The Other 2%, about the Rays development into a winner.

 

Certainly a more pessimistic view of the upcoming Cubs offseason and current outlook.

 

Build the foundation for the next winning Cubs team, then hit the open market in 2013, 2014, or whenever the time's right to find the next Pujols. When that time comes the ivy will still be green, the bleachers will still be full, and the drought will still be there, waiting to finally be broken.

 

I think that's a needed dose of reality for a lot of Cubs fans.

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The Road Map to a Cubs Resurgence - by Jonah Keri, the guy that wrote The Other 2%, about the Rays development into a winner.

 

Certainly a more pessimistic view of the upcoming Cubs offseason and current outlook.

 

Build the foundation for the next winning Cubs team, then hit the open market in 2013, 2014, or whenever the time's right to find the next Pujols. When that time comes the ivy will still be green, the bleachers will still be full, and the drought will still be there, waiting to finally be broken.

 

I think that's a needed dose of reality for a lot of Cubs fans.

 

I feel that way as well, I'm very leery of giving anyone a 5-6 year deal and I think Pujols will begin to decline rapidly in the next few years.

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The Road Map to a Cubs Resurgence - by Jonah Keri, the guy that wrote The Other 2%, about the Rays development into a winner.

 

Certainly a more pessimistic view of the upcoming Cubs offseason and current outlook.

 

Build the foundation for the next winning Cubs team, then hit the open market in 2013, 2014, or whenever the time's right to find the next Pujols. When that time comes the ivy will still be green, the bleachers will still be full, and the drought will still be there, waiting to finally be broken.

 

I think that's a needed dose of reality for a lot of Cubs fans.

 

I think he made some good points, but he completely ignored the Cubs' biggest advantage: The relative weakness of their division.

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The Road Map to a Cubs Resurgence - by Jonah Keri, the guy that wrote The Other 2%, about the Rays development into a winner.

 

Certainly a more pessimistic view of the upcoming Cubs offseason and current outlook.

 

Build the foundation for the next winning Cubs team, then hit the open market in 2013, 2014, or whenever the time's right to find the next Pujols. When that time comes the ivy will still be green, the bleachers will still be full, and the drought will still be there, waiting to finally be broken.

 

I think that's a needed dose of reality for a lot of Cubs fans.

 

I feel that way as well, I'm very leery of giving anyone a 5-6 year deal and I think Pujols will begin to decline rapidly in the next few years.

 

Wait, wait, wait...you're "leery of giving ANYONE 5-6-year deals?" ANYONE? You ideally want them to stick to guys they can sign for less than 5 years when it comes to FA? Then you better hope the internal player development turns into a [expletive] miracle factory.

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The Road Map to a Cubs Resurgence - by Jonah Keri, the guy that wrote The Other 2%, about the Rays development into a winner.

 

Certainly a more pessimistic view of the upcoming Cubs offseason and current outlook.

 

Build the foundation for the next winning Cubs team, then hit the open market in 2013, 2014, or whenever the time's right to find the next Pujols. When that time comes the ivy will still be green, the bleachers will still be full, and the drought will still be there, waiting to finally be broken.

 

I think that's a needed dose of reality for a lot of Cubs fans.

 

I feel that way as well, I'm very leery of giving anyone a 5-6 year deal and I think Pujols will begin to decline rapidly in the next few years.

 

Wait, wait, wait...you're "leery of giving ANYONE 5-6-year deals?" ANYONE? You ideally want them to stick to guys they can sign for less than 5 years when it comes to FA? Then you better hope the internal player development turns into a [expletive] miracle factory.

 

 

*sigh* ok not anyone I take that back, Im not a huge fan of giving aging players on thge verge of decline 5-6 year deals. Not sure why I said anyone.

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