07/14 Florida (Sanchez) @ CUBS (Garza) 7:05 CDT, CSN TV

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

 

Regardless of skin color, Kerry Wood has given Cubs fans a lot more reasons to unconditionally love him.

[Illini Iceman]

It could be worse, this kind of inning could have happened to the Cubs against the Marlins in the 2003 NLCS.

[XZero771679666304]

What I'm saying that the DL is the clear option, but keeping things as they are would be even worse than trading him for a mediocre return. There's something wrong with him, and if this is allowed to keep going, something's really going to give physically, and then we have nothing and have to pay for it.

 

That's why I said the DL is the only option.

 

I expect to hear something along the lines of "he just needs to work through this" after the game. The DL should be the only option, but unfortunately it isn't.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

 

Regardless of skin color, Kerry Wood has given Cubs fans a lot more reasons to unconditionally love him.

 

Really don't give a [expletive]. When someone is awful they should get booed if the fans are going to pull that, and Wood was horrible. And it's not just players like Wood. If you're white you get a pass 9 times out of 10 with the Wrigley faithful even if you're garbage most of time. Hot piles of waste like Hill and Theriot and DeWitt get a fraction of the booing certain other players get.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

 

Regardless of skin color, Kerry Wood has given Cubs fans a lot more reasons to unconditionally love him.

 

Really don't give a [expletive]. When someone is awful they should get booed if the fans are going to pull that, and Wood was horrible. And it's not just players like Wood. If you're white you get a pass 9 times out of 10 with the Wrigley faithful even if you're garbage most of time. Hot piles of waste like Hill and Theriot and DeWitt get a fraction of the booing certain other players get.

 

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

Edited July 15, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[bcl412]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

 

Regardless of skin color, Kerry Wood has given Cubs fans a lot more reasons to unconditionally love him.

 

I don't know if I can get on this bandwagon either. Wood is a fan favorite for obvious reasons other than skin color and I'd say there have been plenty of white players who have been booed pretty strongly. Todd Hundley and Joe Borowski come to mind, plus a lot of meat ball Cubs fans still vilify Mark Prior for some reason, but I'm sure there are others. I'd say the Wrigley crowd targets high profile and high salary players who underachieve and it just so happens that a lot of those players are minorities.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 33-31 when they get at least 8 hits .... 4-24 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[UMFan83]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

 

Regardless of skin color, Kerry Wood has given Cubs fans a lot more reasons to unconditionally love him.

 

I don't know if I can get on this bandwagon either. Wood is a fan favorite for obvious reasons other than skin color and I'd say there have been plenty of white players who have been booed pretty strongly. Todd Hundley and Joe Borowski come to mind.

 

Kevin Gregg, Bob Howry, Scott Eyre, Kyle Farnsworth at times.

[Mark Priors Calves]

I think a lot of Cub fans disproportionately support scrappy white players (Campana, Reed Johnson, Theriot, etc.)

[Tryptamine]

Todd Hundley disagrees with the premise that white players don't get booed.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

 

I don't give a flying [expletive] what a player's history is. If they come in and completely [expletive] up then that's when people SHOULD boo.

[chopsx9]

I think a lot of Cub fans disproportionately support scrappy white players (Campana, Reed Johnson, Theriot, etc.)

 

Yeah I don't know how many times I've heard "If Ernie Banks were white Junior Kennedy would be my second favorite player!"

[Illini Iceman]

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

 

I don't give a flying [expletive] what a player's history is. If they come in and completely [expletive] up then that's when people SHOULD boo.

 

If you boo for a non-white guy then affirmative action requires you equally boo a white guy later in the game.

[Sammy Sofa]

Red Sox fans like to pretend they're not racist because they love Big Papi, too.

 

Stellar start to the 2nd half, Cubs.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

 

I don't give a flying [expletive] what a player's history is. If they come in and completely [expletive] up then that's when people SHOULD boo.

 

If you boo for a non-white guy then affirmative action requires you equally boo a white guy later in the game.

 

How about just booing people when they [expletive] up royally?

[Tryptamine]

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

 

I don't give a flying [expletive] what a player's history is. If they come in and completely [expletive] up then that's when people SHOULD boo.

 

Booing a player regardless of history is the definition of being a meat head. If Aramis came into tonight and left 8 men on base with 3 strike outs should he get booed despite absolutely destroying the ball the last month? If Marmol got hit around he wouldn't have been booed near as bad. When you walk 4 of the 5 batters you face, that's when people get pissed off.

[bcl412]

I think a lot of Cub fans disproportionately support scrappy white players (Campana, Reed Johnson, Theriot, etc.)

 

Lots of people love Juan Pierre too although he is more of an exception when it comes to that type of player being popular as a minority. I have never heard of a player like Jose Macias or Neifi Perez or whomever you can think of, become a fan favorite. I think the racism comes into play in this realm, shitty white players get away with being popular because people think they play hard and for what ever reason people of other skin color do not. I don't think that's a Wrigley thing though, that's a sports fan thing for some reason.

[Mark Priors Calves]

I think a lot of Cub fans disproportionately support scrappy white players (Campana, Reed Johnson, Theriot, etc.)

 

Yeah I don't know how many times I've heard "If Ernie Banks were white Junior Kennedy would be my second favorite player!"

 

I never said that.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not disputing an inherent racism from Cubs fans, but you're using a terrible example due to the difference in the players' histories and the actual situation in the game (blowing a lead vs. letting the opponent pile on)

 

I don't give a flying [expletive] what a player's history is. If they come in and completely [expletive] up then that's when people SHOULD boo.

 

Booing a player regardless of history is the definition of being a meat head. If Aramis came into tonight and left 8 men on base with 3 strike outs should he get booed despite absolutely destroying the ball the last month? If Marmol got hit around he wouldn't have been booed near as bad. When you walk 4 of the 5 batters you face, that's when people get pissed off.

 

Oh, good point; Wood only fucked up slightly less than Marmol did.

 

And yes, history should be irrelevant. Irrationally booing a player because of the money they make or whatever garbage people use to justify booing Soriano every time he makes an out is the epitome of meathead. Booing is inherently a meathead move, but it's an in the moment meathead move. Boo what happened because it was a big deal right then and there in the context of that game. Yes, if your cleanup guy strands that many guys and has at least a hat trick of K's at the plate he should be booed during that game. When your closer tanks a save you boo him. When the guy who replaces him comes in and is almost as bad you boo him, too.

[UMFan83]

Maybe it has to do with Marmol pitching horrible lately and blowing a winnable game by walking 4 batters on 17 pitches. Walking batters and then having a mental error by failing to cover home plate causing the go ahead run to score makes fans angry. When Wood came in, the Cubs were already losing so who cares.

[Sammy Sofa]

According to Kaplan the focus should be on Marmol not backing up Soto behind the plate after the double was hit.

 

I'm really getting nervous that the defense is going to be one of the major focuses/excuses when planning for next year. No, I'm not excusing their crappy defense, but they have more important things to be looking at when rebuilding this team.

[Tarver]

Defense IS an issue that deserves attention. Certainly not to the detriment of all else, but it needs to be addressed.

 

Honestly better coaching would probably help in that regard. This season has really made me appreciate the work of Rothchild Trammel more.

[CubmanPi]

Yeah, don't boo Wood, you [expletive] morons. He's white, so it's not his fault. [expletive] meatballs.

 

wut?

 

When Quade finally pulled Wood he barely got a smattering of boos, despite reloading the bases and giving up 2 more runs himself. There's a pretty clear distinction between who gets really booed at Wrigley and who doesn't. [expletive] white players rarely get anything close to what the non-white ones get when they [expletive] up.

Marmol stunk, got booed. There were cheers as soon as the bullpen got up. Marmol departed to heavy booing after turning a near-certain win into a probable loss. Wood got cheered. When his control problems became evident, he got booed too. When Russell was on his way in, there were light cheers before Wood exited under light boos, after the probable loss became a near-certain loss. Marmol got the heavy reaction, because he was the one who was leaving when fans were getting it out of their system that they just had a win snatched out from in front of them. By the time Wood was done stinking it up, the seats were considerably more empty, accounting for the mere "smattering" of boos. The season-long apathy didn't take long to set in. Fans have been doing this all season.

 

But you're right, it's racism. That stadium was jam packed full of meatball racists. I'm surprised no one was cheering when Marmol gave up those runs, because at least he has the courtesy to stink before the trade deadline and give all those meatballs the hope that one more brown guy can get out of town. Maybe we can package him together with Castro and pry Theriot away from the Cards. Maybe that will please those stupid racist meatheads whose expressions of disdain for the team doesn't remain constant regardless of the situation or context.

 

Please.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Now THAT'S how you kick off the second half when your chasing the Fecal League Championship.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The reason that black and Hispanic players have been booed more than white players in recent years is that they are the ones who have been brought in under high profile deals in recent years, the saviors so to speak. Yeah, Grabows gotten his share of boos, but Zambrano, Soriano, Ramirez, Bradley, and Pierre to name a few have been the guys with high expectations attached to them, so therefore, they're going to get booed a lot more than guys like Miles, Theriot, or Campana. a lot of people like to say real fans don't boo. The this, I say real fan boo the loudest and fake fans turn their back until the team gets good again, of course in the case of the Cubs, it's hard to blame people for walking away considering how many god awful years we've had to endure in comparison with the hand full of good ones.