NFL Week 16

[bukie]

One-day-early NFC week 17 scenarios:

 

CLINCHED: Atlanta - playoff spot.

Chicago - NFC North division.

Philadelphia - NFC East division.

New Orleans - playoff spot.

ELIMINATED: Carolina, Detroit, Washington, Dallas, Minnesota, Arizona,

San Francisco.

 

PHILADELPHIA Eagles

Clinched NFC East.

- Clinches first round bye with:

1) Win v MIN AND Win v DAL AND CHI loss v GB

- Clinches homefield advantage with:

1) Win v MIN AND WIn v DAL AND CHI loss v GB AND NO loss v TB AND ATL loss v CAR

2) Win v MIN AND Win v DAL AND CHI win v GB AND NO loss v TB AND ATL loss v CAR AND Win SOV tiebreaker over ATL (see few pages back)

 

CHICAGO Bears

Clinched NFC North division..

- Clinches first round bye with:

1) Win v GB

2) PHI loss v MIN

3) PHI loss v DAL

- Clinches homefield advantage wtih:

1) Win v GB AND PHI loss v MIN/DAL AND ATL loss v CAR AND NO loss v TB

 

ATLANTA Falcons

Clinched playoff berth.

- Clinches NFC South division with:

1) Win v CAR

2) NO loss v TB

- Clinches first round bye with:

1) Win v CAR

2) NO loss v TB AND CHI loss v GB

3) NO loss v TB AND PHI loss v DAL

4) NO loss v TB AND clinch SOV over PHI

- Clinches homefield advantage with:

1) Win v CAR

2) NO loss v TB AND CHI loss v GB AND PHI loss v DAL

3) NO loss v TB AND CHI win v GB AND PHI win v DAL AND clinch SOV over PHI

 

NEW ORLEANS Saints

Clinched playoff spot.

- Clinches NFC South, bye, and homefield advantage with:

1) NO win v TB AND ATL loss v CAR

 

GREEN BAY Packers

Green Bay clinches a playoff spot:

1) GB win

2) NYG loss + TB loss

 

NEW YORK Giants

NY Giants clinch a playoff spot:

1) NYG win + GB loss

 

TAMPA BAY Buccaneers

Tampa Bay clinches a playoff spot:

1) TB win + NYG loss + GB loss

 

ST. LOUIS Rams

St. Louis clinches NFC West division:

1) STL win

 

SEATTLE Seahawks

Seattle clinches NFC West division:

1) SEA win

[rawaction]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

[shnsajax]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

 

They need to consider a new way to do the seedings. Never been a fan of division winners automatically being #1-4.

[jersey cubs fan]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

 

5 seed is hardly getting screwed. They get to play the crappiest division winner. The Saints probably shouldn't have had such a blah start to the season, including losses to Arizona and Cleveland if they wanted a better draw. They had to play Atlanta twice, but got to play the worst team in football twice, plus the NFC West.

[jersey cubs fan]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

 

They need to consider a new way to do the seedings. Never been a fan of division winners automatically being #1-4.

 

It's not really a problem.

[Banedon]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

 

They need to consider a new way to do the seedings. Never been a fan of division winners automatically being #1-4.

 

It's not really a problem.

 

I know it's your thing...to state an opinion as a fact with no detailed explanation...but just because you say something, doesn't make it fact. NFL playoff seeding is a problem...how much of one is certainly debatable, as there are certainly a lot of larger issues to address, but to just flat state that it's not a problem is just annoying.

[bukie]

I have a hard time considering any of Atlanta-New Orleans-Tampa screwed, because each of them got 6 games against Carolina and the NFC West to inflate their records.

[rawaction]

Screwed is probably too strong of a word. But it would suck to go 12-4 and not get a home game.

[jersey cubs fan]

NO is getting screwed. They could either be the 1 seed or the 5 seed. No in-between.

 

They need to consider a new way to do the seedings. Never been a fan of division winners automatically being #1-4.

 

It's not really a problem.

 

I know it's your thing...to state an opinion as a fact with no detailed explanation...but just because you say something, doesn't make it fact. NFL playoff seeding is a problem...how much of one is certainly debatable, as there are certainly a lot of larger issues to address, but to just flat state that it's not a problem is just annoying.

 

A lot less annoying than people constantly whining about not having the ideal way to determine seedings. It is what it is. There is no perfect method. It's a sport where you play one game a week for four months. When that is over the people who win their divisions and the two best records that come up short get to advance to the playoffs. A crappy division winner is going to lose to a better team, home or away, most of the time. A better record doesn't necessarily make one team better than the other. All you can do is win the games on your schedule. In the end the Super Bowl winner is going to have an impressive resume. And everybody has fun getting drunk on Sundays until February.

 

It isn't a problem.

[Banedon]

I have a hard time considering any of Atlanta-New Orleans-Tampa screwed, because each of them got 6 games against Carolina and the NFC West to inflate their records.

 

And now NO will most likely get a 7th, while the Bears or Philly probably will get to deal with GB.

[jersey cubs fan]

Screwed is probably too strong of a word. But it would suck to go 12-4 and not get a home game.

 

Eh, there's one team of the 6 that definetely "shouldn't" get one over them. But I don't have much sympathy for dome teams concerned about the ideal path to the Super Bowl, let alone teams that just freaking won the thing the year before.

 

Plus, there's still an outside shot that they can host one. That and having the easiest first round matchup is a pretty nice consolation.

[rawaction]

Screwed is probably too strong of a word. But it would suck to go 12-4 and not get a home game.

 

Eh, there's one team of the 6 that definetely "shouldn't" get one over them. But I don't have much sympathy for dome teams concerned about the ideal path to the Super Bowl, let alone teams that just freaking won the thing the year before.

 

Plus, there's still an outside shot that they can host one. That and having the easiest first round matchup is a pretty nice consolation.

 

I'd rather not have a 1st round game than have one, no matter who it is against. They still gotta win 3 likely road games to get to Dallas, while a team like the Bears or Eagles w/ the same record will only have to win 2, with 1 of them being at home. It's a huge discrepancy.

 

That being said, I don't have a problem w/ the system as it is.

[jersey cubs fan]

Screwed is probably too strong of a word. But it would suck to go 12-4 and not get a home game.

 

Eh, there's one team of the 6 that definetely "shouldn't" get one over them. But I don't have much sympathy for dome teams concerned about the ideal path to the Super Bowl, let alone teams that just freaking won the thing the year before.

 

Plus, there's still an outside shot that they can host one. That and having the easiest first round matchup is a pretty nice consolation.

 

I'd rather not have a 1st round game than have one, no matter who it is against. They still gotta win 3 likely road games to get to Dallas, while a team like the Bears or Eagles w/ the same record will only have to win 2, with 1 of them being at home. It's a huge discrepancy.

 

That being said, I don't have a problem w/ the system as it is.

 

Yes, I would prefer that, but if that's what they wanted they shouldn't have lost to Arizona and Cleveland. New Orleans was very unimpressive until they beat Pittsburgh this year. Squeeker wins against Minnesota, San Fran and Carolina. Losses to bad teams. They made their own bed despite favorable conditions.

[ConstableRabbit]

Would someone please remind ESPN that Brees really wasn't that great last night?

 

I'm watching sportscenter and the anchors are securely attached to his scrotum.

[bcl412]

Would someone please remind ESPN that Brees really wasn't that great last night?

 

I'm watching sportscenter and the anchors are securely attached to his scrotum.

 

BUT HE WAS SO FOCUSED AND WANTED TO WIN BADLY!!!!!

[OleMissCub]

You won't hear me bitching about the Saints low seed. They should have taken care of their business against the Browns and Cardinals, but they didn't. So they deserve this.

[bcl412]

Hoping for the Bears getting locked into the 2 seed so they have nothing to play for this week, it's going to be odd rooting for the Vikings to give the Bears a first round bye.

[JonJayCutler]

Hoping for the Bears getting locked into the 2 seed so they have nothing to play for this week, it's going to be odd rooting for the Vikings to give the Bears a first round bye.

 

#1 seed is still in play for the Bears next week, however unlikely it may be.

[bcl412]

Hoping for the Bears getting locked into the 2 seed so they have nothing to play for this week, it's going to be odd rooting for the Vikings to give the Bears a first round bye.

 

#1 seed is still in play for the Bears next week, however unlikely it may be.

 

Yeah, but the Falcons will probably win before the Packers/Bears game (it's at noon correct) so it won't be by then.

[kujay]

Hoping for the Bears getting locked into the 2 seed so they have nothing to play for this week, it's going to be odd rooting for the Vikings to give the Bears a first round bye.

 

#1 seed is still in play for the Bears next week, however unlikely it may be.

 

Yeah, but the Falcons will probably win before the Packers/Bears game (it's at noon correct) so it won't be by then.

 

I thought it was moved to 3:15.

[bcl412]

Hoping for the Bears getting locked into the 2 seed so they have nothing to play for this week, it's going to be odd rooting for the Vikings to give the Bears a first round bye.

 

#1 seed is still in play for the Bears next week, however unlikely it may be.

 

Yeah, but the Falcons will probably win before the Packers/Bears game (it's at noon correct) so it won't be by then.

 

I thought it was moved to 3:15.

 

The the Bears/Packers was but I think the Falcons play at noon.

[jersey cubs fan]

TB/NO and CAR/ATL are still early games. The only other NFC early game is MIN/DET.

[bukie]

If TB (possible) and CAR (yeah...no) win, then the playoff scenarios get interesting. Aside from that, it's pretty straightforward.

[hawkeyecub]

Why do NFL broadcasters suddenly always suggest that a team has an onside kick planned if they defer on the coin toss.

[imb]

ok maclin, 46 yards, that's all i need