2011 NFL Draft Thread

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I doubt Te'o would be picked that high. He's not all that big for a LB and I have a feeling NFL teams would be put off by that.

 

I don't agree with it, I just have a feeling that would happen.

 

Isn't he listed at 6'2", 250 ish? That's pretty good size, even on the interior. He can run like an outside LB though. He has produced in college. And he was one of the top recruited HS players a couple years ago.

 

I think Burflict's a better LB, but that's the only one in potentially the deepest ILB class I've ever seen.

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Burfict is physicially superior to Te'o but he's prone to too many mental lapses. He also makes Nick Fairley look like a saint.

 

Luck might be the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning but I think Jeffery is the best WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson (who probably was the best WR prospect to ever enter the draft).

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Burfict is physicially superior to Te'o but he's prone to too many mental lapses. He also makes Nick Fairley look like a saint.

 

Luck might be the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning but I think Jeffery is the best WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson (who probably was the best WR prospect to ever enter the draft).

 

Yeah, that's why I didn't dispute Te'o being picked higher. I like Jeffrey a lot, but that's some lofty praise. Better than Fitzgerald? Keyshawn? The top 2 this year were pretty good too, but yeah I'd take Jeffrey over either of them. I'd really like Justin Blackmon to be a Chicago Bear. I'd prefer Jeffrey, but would rather not finish with one of the 5 worst records in the league (nor would I like to pull off a Falcons like trade for him).

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Burfict is physicially superior to Te'o but he's prone to too many mental lapses. He also makes Nick Fairley look like a saint.

 

Luck might be the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning but I think Jeffery is the best WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson (who probably was the best WR prospect to ever enter the draft).

 

Yeah, that's why I didn't dispute Te'o being picked higher. I like Jeffrey a lot, but that's some lofty praise. Better than Fitzgerald? Keyshawn? The top 2 this year were pretty good too, but yeah I'd take Jeffrey over either of them. I'd really like Justin Blackmon to be a Chicago Bear. I'd prefer Jeffrey, but would rather not finish with one of the 5 worst records in the league (nor would I like to pull off a Falcons like trade for him).

 

Crap, I thought I might be forgetting someone. I'd definitely take Fitzgerald coming out of college over Jeffery. Not Keyshawn.

[sneakypower]

2012 mock draft

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I doubt Te'o would be picked that high. He's not all that big for a LB and I have a feeling NFL teams would be put off by that.

 

I don't agree with it, I just have a feeling that would happen.

 

Isn't he listed at 6'2", 250 ish? That's pretty good size, even on the interior. He can run like an outside LB though. He has produced in college. And he was one of the top recruited HS players a couple years ago.

 

I think Burflict's a better LB, but that's the only one in potentially the deepest ILB class I've ever seen.

 

6'2" is on the short side for an NFL linebacker, and that's a college listing. College listings are notoriously generous.

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I doubt Te'o would be picked that high. He's not all that big for a LB and I have a feeling NFL teams would be put off by that.

 

I don't agree with it, I just have a feeling that would happen.

 

Isn't he listed at 6'2", 250 ish? That's pretty good size, even on the interior. He can run like an outside LB though. He has produced in college. And he was one of the top recruited HS players a couple years ago.

 

I think Burflict's a better LB, but that's the only one in potentially the deepest ILB class I've ever seen.

 

6'2" is on the short side for an NFL linebacker, and that's a college listing. College listings are notoriously generous.

 

There is no way that is true. That's got to be at least average. LB is a position where height does not help. There are all sorts of 6'0" to 6'2" LB.

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I doubt Te'o would be picked that high. He's not all that big for a LB and I have a feeling NFL teams would be put off by that.

 

I don't agree with it, I just have a feeling that would happen.

 

Isn't he listed at 6'2", 250 ish? That's pretty good size, even on the interior. He can run like an outside LB though. He has produced in college. And he was one of the top recruited HS players a couple years ago.

 

I think Burflict's a better LB, but that's the only one in potentially the deepest ILB class I've ever seen.

 

6'2" is on the short side for an NFL linebacker, and that's a college listing. College listings are notoriously generous.

 

There is no way that is true. That's got to be at least average. LB is a position where height does not help. There are all sorts of 6'0" to 6'2" LB.

I wouldn't say height doesn't help, its just not as important as some other positions. The height thing can hurt if you can keep your center of gravity low to take on blockers, but if you are tall and can keep your proper Center of Gravity, you're height is a huge gift at LB.

 

But yea, I would not be worried about a guy in the 5'10" - 6'1" range just because of that.

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Trying to find some legitimate numbers and I saw this 2011 combine profile. Guy is listed at 6'0" 240lbs.

 

Bowman is an average sized linebacker with good athleticism.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/forum/topic?f=44&t=58690&start=1300

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Average Linebacker Height: 6’2″

Average Linebacker Weight: 242 lbs.

 

http://blog.stack.com/2011/03/01/2011-nfl-combine-results-linebackers/

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2012 mock draft

 

Thanks. I totally forgot about Landry Jones and Jeff Fuller.

 

That's 3 QBs - Luck, Barkley and Jones - I'd take over Newton, Gabbert or any of the other 1st round QBs from this year.

 

It's also amusing that UNC is becoming such a monster at producing NFL talent and yet they're a middling program in a weak ACC.

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If Jones even comes out next year, i'd still bet on Brandon Weeden being drafted first. He's older, but he's going to wow people at his pro day.

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2012 mock draft

 

Thanks. I totally forgot about Landry Jones and Jeff Fuller.

 

That's 3 QBs - Luck, Barkley and Jones - I'd take over Newton, Gabbert or any of the other 1st round QBs from this year.

 

It's also amusing that UNC is becoming such a monster at producing NFL talent and yet they're a middling program in a weak ACC.

 

Without an assistant paying players they might see a drop off coming soon :-).

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Are they expecting the 49ers to be that bad next season? I can't imagine what its going to take in order to trade up to #1 to get Luck, maybe another Ricky Williams draft day trade.

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2012 mock draft

 

MANTI IS NOT LEAVING EARLY.

 

 

[but if he does he [expletive] better be drafted by the bears]

[Andy]

2012 mock draft

 

MANTI IS NOT LEAVING EARLY.

I don't think he is either.

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I doubt Te'o would be picked that high. He's not all that big for a LB and I have a feeling NFL teams would be put off by that.

 

I don't agree with it, I just have a feeling that would happen.

 

Isn't he listed at 6'2", 250 ish? That's pretty good size, even on the interior. He can run like an outside LB though. He has produced in college. And he was one of the top recruited HS players a couple years ago.

 

I think Burflict's a better LB, but that's the only one in potentially the deepest ILB class I've ever seen.

 

6'2" is on the short side for an NFL linebacker, and that's a college listing. College listings are notoriously generous.

 

There is no way that is true. That's got to be at least average. LB is a position where height does not help. There are all sorts of 6'0" to 6'2" LB.

 

Yeah, I said that wrong. It's pretty much dead average, but it's short for what is considered a top prospect at the position, though less so as an inside guy. That's also assuming he actually is 6'2". As for height not helping as a linebacker...that's pretty silly. It's obviously not as big a deal as on the line or at one of the corners, but it does help, especially for a pass rusher type.

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4. Tennessee Titans: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina. Jake Locker is Tennessee's future. If it's going to be a pleasant future, he'll need more offensive weaponry. Jeffery is very gifted.

 

:yahoo:

 

I'd take a 3-13 record or whatever it is we'd have to do to be able to draft Jeffery next year. If Kenny Britt can shape up, we'd have a terrific receiver group with Britt, Jeffery, Nate Washington and Jared Cook. They could stick me at QB in that scenario and be at least moderately productive through the air (not really, but almost).

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Are they expecting the 49ers to be that bad next season? I can't imagine what its going to take in order to trade up to #1 to get Luck, maybe another Ricky Williams draft day trade.

 

I would bet a lot of money on the 49ers being better than the Panthers next year.

 

And on Te'o going higher than 21st

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It's also amusing that UNC is becoming such a monster at producing NFL talent and yet they're a middling program in a weak ACC.

 

UNC was hurt last year by the agent thing. Probably half their players drafted were suspended the entire season after that scandal and having them would have made them a much better team. Marvin Austin and Robert Quinn were both out all year and they're both top 10 talent.

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Are they expecting the 49ers to be that bad next season? I can't imagine what its going to take in order to trade up to #1 to get Luck, maybe another Ricky Williams draft day trade.

 

Yeah, I think both the 49ers and Titans will be better than top 5 picks. The Bills may be as well if Gailey can keep Fitzpatrick good. They had a nice draft and should be able to get some early contributors.

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Te'o might lack prototypical size for a linebacker but he's still athletic, fast and big enough at a position where (as others have said) smaller players have done well. He's going to be a great pro and would be a fantastic replacement for Urlacher for the next generation.

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Next year's WR class looks much better than this. This year there were two elites and not another first round quality receiver. Next year I could see 5 or 6 possibly going in the first.

 

Te'o might lack prototypical size for a linebacker but he's still athletic, fast and big enough at a position where (as others have said) smaller players have done well. He's going to be a great pro and would be a fantastic replacement for Urlacher for the next generation.

 

Yeah, I wasn't saying anyting about his prospect ranking, just that 6'2 250 isn't really special and could skwe on the more ordinary side.

[dew1679666265]

Te'o might lack prototypical size for a linebacker but he's still athletic, fast and big enough at a position where (as others have said) smaller players have done well. He's going to be a great pro and would be a fantastic replacement for Urlacher for the next generation.

 

I could see the Colts actually being aggressive moving up in the draft to try to snag Te'o next year. It'd be completely out of character for a Polian team to trade up that early in the draft (or so it seems, discounting this year) but Te'o profiles perfectly for what the Colts like to have - smallish but very fast and athletic LBs. He'd fit the Bears' defense quite well too.

[SouthSideRyan]

And I agree that Te'o stays for his senior year.