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Game day is here. Also, Auburn picked up a 5* and two 4*s over the past few days. If the next few weeks go as expected, they will likely end up with another top 5 recruiting class. War Eagle!

 

What's the budget for this year's class?

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The time has arrived. The day of doom is here!

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Game day is here. Also, Auburn picked up a 5* and two 4*s over the past few days. If the next few weeks go as expected, they will likely end up with another top 5 recruiting class. War Eagle!

 

What's the budget for this year's class?

 

You're right. they are probably paying these guys for their commitments since they would be able to do so without anyone suspecting.

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Game day is here. Also, Auburn picked up a 5* and two 4*s over the past few days. If the next few weeks go as expected, they will likely end up with another top 5 recruiting class. War Eagle!

 

What's the budget for this year's class?

25% over Mississippi State's

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I don't know who I want to win this. I guess Oregon, but I have nothing against Auburn except for the fact that I dislike Cam Newton and I'm mad that Alabama didn't beat them to allow TCU to play in this game.
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All these top recruits are par for the course for Gene Chizik. Remember when he was bringing in all that talent at Iowa State? Me neither.

Yes, because recruiting kids to Iowa State is exactly the same as recruiting them to Auburn.

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It's not bowl-related, but it involves Auburn so there you go.

 

Kris Frost announced on NBC during the Army All-American game that he was picking Auburn, but they don't have room for him and will not accept his commitment. Oopsies!

http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/8/1923379/u-s-army-all-american-bowl-kris-frost-auburn-recruiting-class

 

Just out of curiousity how many offers did Auburn hand out this year?

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It's not bowl-related, but it involves Auburn so there you go.

 

Kris Frost announced on NBC during the Army All-American game that he was picking Auburn, but they don't have room for him and will not accept his commitment. Oopsies!

http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/8/1923379/u-s-army-all-american-bowl-kris-frost-auburn-recruiting-class

 

Just out of curiousity how many offers did Auburn hand out this year?

 

i don't think having more offers out than spots open is unusual.

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It's not bowl-related, but it involves Auburn so there you go.

 

Kris Frost announced on NBC during the Army All-American game that he was picking Auburn, but they don't have room for him and will not accept his commitment. Oopsies!

http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/8/1923379/u-s-army-all-american-bowl-kris-frost-auburn-recruiting-class

 

Just out of curiousity how many offers did Auburn hand out this year?

 

i don't think having more offers out than spots open is unusual.

 

Its not at all. I just find it interesting when teams hand out 100+ offers a year. Seems like this sort of thing would happen more often. Or maybe it does and we just don't see it.

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It's not bowl-related, but it involves Auburn so there you go.

 

Kris Frost announced on NBC during the Army All-American game that he was picking Auburn, but they don't have room for him and will not accept his commitment. Oopsies!

http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/8/1923379/u-s-army-all-american-bowl-kris-frost-auburn-recruiting-class

 

Just out of curiousity how many offers did Auburn hand out this year?

 

i don't think having more offers out than spots open is unusual.

 

Its not at all. I just find it interesting when teams hand out 100+ offers a year. Seems like this sort of thing would happen more often. Or maybe it does and we just don't see it.

 

Most kids are probably more careful about announcing for teams that won't accept. Maybe he was hoping that the public announcement would guilt auburn into accepting him.

 

Do they really make 100 offers a year?

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All these top recruits are par for the course for Gene Chizik. Remember when he was bringing in all that talent at Iowa State? Me neither.

Yes, because recruiting kids to Iowa State is exactly the same as recruiting them to Auburn.

 

Of course it's not, but he never moved the needle at ISU. He had worse classes than Baylor, the 12th-best team in Texas. Within one year and an appearance in the Outback Bowl he had a Top 5 recruiting class. Add in the Cecil Newton thing and boy, it's a wonder why anyone would question how Chizik became so great.

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It's not bowl-related, but it involves Auburn so there you go.

 

Kris Frost announced on NBC during the Army All-American game that he was picking Auburn, but they don't have room for him and will not accept his commitment. Oopsies!

http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/8/1923379/u-s-army-all-american-bowl-kris-frost-auburn-recruiting-class

 

Just out of curiousity how many offers did Auburn hand out this year?

 

i don't think having more offers out than spots open is unusual.

 

Its not at all. I just find it interesting when teams hand out 100+ offers a year. Seems like this sort of thing would happen more often. Or maybe it does and we just don't see it.

 

Most kids are probably more careful about announcing for teams that won't accept. Maybe he was hoping that the public announcement would guilt auburn into accepting him.

 

Do they really make 100 offers a year?

 

I need to find the article that I read last year in regards as to how many scholorships schools were offering. It was really astounding, and I had no idea that some were offering so many.

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Do they really make 100 offers a year?

I'd guess that number is closer to 30-40, but a lot are pulled when spots fill.

 

I'm under the assumption that all the top programs are in the 30-40 range. I think the hit rate on scholarships for even the best places has to be 60-75%, right? Probably closer to 50%. If you only offered 20-25 every year, you'd consistently have 5-10 spots empty on your roster.

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Do they really make 100 offers a year?

I'd guess that number is closer to 30-40, but a lot are pulled when spots fill.

 

I'm under the assumption that all the top programs are in the 30-40 range. I think the hit rate on scholarships for even the best places has to be 60-75%, right? Probably closer to 50%. If you only offered 20-25 every year, you'd consistently have 5-10 spots empty on your roster.

 

I'm having problems finding the article (luckily its slow at work), but when you consider most of the top players recieve anywhere from 25-35 offers that hit rate is going to be a lot lower. Even 3 star players have a handful of scholorships to choose from.

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I've seen many reports of Stanford offering close to 100 a year under Harbaugh, who would then use the admissions office to cut off contact with players who have committed but he no longer wanted. And those are guys who should have been cleared. That doesn't count those who couldn't qualify academically. He got away with it since he wasn't at it for a long period of time.
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I've seen many reports of Stanford offering close to 100 a year under Harbaugh, who would then use the admissions office to cut off contact with players who have committed but he no longer wanted. And those are guys who should have been cleared. That doesn't count those who couldn't qualify academically. He got away with it since he wasn't at it for a long period of time.

 

Damn, that's shady and in a gray ethical area. The term "student-athlete" is a bad joke with the NCAA.

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I've seen many reports of Stanford offering close to 100 a year under Harbaugh, who would then use the admissions office to cut off contact with players who have committed but he no longer wanted. And those are guys who should have been cleared. That doesn't count those who couldn't qualify academically. He got away with it since he wasn't at it for a long period of time.

 

Damn, that's shady and in a gray ethical area. The term "student-athlete" is a bad joke with the NCAA.

Which is why Northwestern fans do not like Harbaugh at all. Telling the admissions office not to get back to a kid is a dick move, particularly when everyone involved knows that they qualify. He has left a lot of kids hanging who pretty much had to figure out that he's no longer interested in them on their own. He has dominated west coast recruiting over Northwestern, but there have also been a fair number of decommits that we've been able to land.

 

To Harbaugh's credit, the "shotgun" approach has worked really well for Stanford. I don't think it would have worked indefinitely, though. At least he wasn't letting kids start classes before telling them there was no spot on the team (SEC).

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It would probably be a pain in the ass to go through of this, but this doesn't really tell us who received an offer after another offer was rescinded or rejected. Still, those numbers are quite a bit higher than I thought.

Iowa State has been in SEC territory when it comes to the number of recruits they actually sign:

 

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.ph ... g-numbers/

I'd guess that has more to do with attrition than anything SEC-like.

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