NFL Week 10

[Flames24Rulz]

This is unbelievable. This is Andy Reid as a 13 year old in a punt, pass, and kick contest:

 

 

LOL

[Ding Dong Johnson]

he hasn't changed a bit

[NCCubFan]

Steve Smith (the Giant, not the Panther) will miss at least this week because of a torn pectoral muscle.

[hawkeyecub]

This is unbelievable. This is Andy Reid as a 13 year old in a punt, pass, and kick contest:

 

 

LOL

 

Can the little guy behind him really be in the same age group? No way.

[Flames24Rulz]

This is unbelievable. This is Andy Reid as a 13 year old in a punt, pass, and kick contest:

 

 

LOL

 

Can the little guy behind him really be in the same age group? No way.

 

I thought it was some sort of joke at first when I first saw that earlier this week. Then he admitted it was him on an interview with Jim Rome a few days ago.

[UMFan83]

A random thing I was just thinking about. How come the NFL is the only sport that basically seperates and devalue the titles won during an earlier time period vs. titles since that period? Meaning, is there some specific reason why pre-Super Bowl titles aren't nearly as revered as Super bowl titles? Every other sport considers a title from 1950 and a title from 2010 to be the same, even if the game is played completely differently today than 1950.

 

Where it really comes into play is when judging the most successful franchises in a sport. Steelers fans will talk your ear off about how they are the most successful NFL franchise because they've won the most Super Bowls. And not to discredit them, that is a fantastic accomplishment to win 6 titles in a 45 year span. But in reality, both the Packers and the Bears have won more titles than them. In fact, the Steelers were basically the LA Clippers of football until the early 1970s. Before that time, the Steelers had played only 1 playoff game in their nearly 40 years of existence. They were the doormats of the NFL.

 

If you look at other leagues...imagine you started only counting championships when the ABA merged with the NBA, similar to how the AFL merged with the NFL. If you do that, the Lakers 10 titles since the merger are now the most, followed by the Bulls with 6, and the Spurs and Celtics tied with 4.

 

It's just something I've always wondered. No one respects pre-super bowl NFL titles like they do other sports titles before the late-60's.

[dew1679666265]

No other sport (that I know of) merged two leagues like the NFL and AFL did to create their own championship game. Pre-Super Bowl you had an NFL champ and an AFL champ, but those two have combined now.

 

I'd say that's a big part of why the NFL does that.

[SpongeWorthy]

A random thing I was just thinking about. How come the NFL is the only sport that basically seperates and devalue the titles won during an earlier time period vs. titles since that period? Meaning, is there some specific reason why pre-Super Bowl titles aren't nearly as revered as Super bowl titles? Every other sport considers a title from 1950 and a title from 2010 to be the same, even if the game is played completely differently today than 1950.

 

Where it really comes into play is when judging the most successful franchises in a sport. Steelers fans will talk your ear off about how they are the most successful NFL franchise because they've won the most Super Bowls. And not to discredit them, that is a fantastic accomplishment to win 6 titles in a 45 year span. But in reality, both the Packers and the Bears have won more titles than them. In fact, the Steelers were basically the LA Clippers of football until the early 1970s. Before that time, the Steelers had played only 1 playoff game in their nearly 40 years of existence. They were the doormats of the NFL.

 

If you look at other leagues...imagine you started only counting championships when the ABA merged with the NBA, similar to how the AFL merged with the NFL. If you do that, the Lakers 10 titles since the merger are now the most, followed by the Bulls with 6, and the Spurs and Celtics tied with 4.

 

It's just something I've always wondered. No one respects pre-super bowl NFL titles like they do other sports titles before the late-60's.

 

I don't think the devaluing is as strong as you make it out to be. The marketing hype isn't as strong because the Super Bowl is a very, very strong brand in its own right. But teams like the Bears, Giants, Skins, Colts, even the Packers are considered some of the banner franchises because of success in the pre Super Bowl era.

 

Plus the greatest game of all time is still widely considered the 1958 NFL Championship Game between the Colts and Giants.

 

And if there's one thing that keeps the cache for the pre-color barrier/pre WWII World Series championships it's that the Yankees won so damn many of them.

[jersey cubs fan]

2 reasons I think. Back in the day nobody cared about the NFL. It was the bastard child of the more pure amateur football. Baseball has been king forever. Plus, they named it the super bowl. If the first game was just called the NFL championship game, it wouldn't be much more than an expanded version of the older NFL championship game. But they made a huge deal out of the Super Bowl and out of numbering each one. If we just played super bowl 45 then nobody cares what happened in Super Bowl -7.

[SpongeWorthy]

Oh yeah, that's a big reason. The NFL was definitely the red headed step child of American football compared to college for a long time.

[Andy]

No other sport (that I know of) merged two leagues like the NFL and AFL did to create their own championship game. Pre-Super Bowl you had an NFL champ and an AFL champ, but those two have combined now.

 

I'd say that's a big part of why the NFL does that.

The AFL only existed for ten seasons before the merger though.

[SpongeWorthy]

And isn't the conventional wisdom that the first two Super Bowls were no bigger than the previous NFL championship games and didn't raise into "Super Bowl" stature until the Jets won SBIII?

 

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Championship_Game,_1967

 

According to that wiki the Ice Bowl game between Dallas/GB for the NFL title was clearly more important than Super Bowl II a few weeks later.

[UMFan83]

No other sport (that I know of) merged two leagues like the NFL and AFL did to create their own championship game. Pre-Super Bowl you had an NFL champ and an AFL champ, but those two have combined now.

 

I'd say that's a big part of why the NFL does that.

The AFL only existed for ten seasons before the merger though.

 

Yeah that's why I used the ABA as an example of a league that was formed and tried to rival the dominant league until it became a bit enough thorn in the side of the dominant league that they agreed to merge. The biggest difference is that the ABA just merged its teams into the existing divisional format whereas the AFL essentially became a second NFL conference where the Steelers and Colts moved over to even things out. So in that sense I can understand why the AFL merger led to a different dynamic than the ABA merger did.

 

Now that I think about it, I guess if you want to go way back in history the NL was its own league fron the 1870's until the first few years of the 1900's when the AL came along. The two joined together as 2 seperate leagues playing under one umbrella, sort of similar to how the AFL and NFL did except the AL and NL of course kept different presidents, different rules, and the teams from each league only played each other in the ASG, Spring training and the World Series.

 

I don't really know much about the WHA/NHL merger and how it changed the dynamics of the NHL, but I'd imagine it was closer to an ABA-NBA type merger than a AFL-NFL or AL-NL merger.

[imb]

This is unbelievable. This is Andy Reid as a 13 year old in a punt, pass, and kick contest:

 

 

ROFL. i saw this on the treadmill the other day, and there was no sound, and i just assumed he was like 24-years old. oh my god this is hilarious. THIRTEEN???????

[ELCABALLO45]

Except you were not on the treadmill.

[imb]

Except you were not on the treadmill.

 

ROTL ?

[Magnetic Curses]

This is unbelievable. This is Andy Reid as a 13 year old in a punt, pass, and kick contest:

 

 

ROFL. i saw this on the treadmill the other day, and there was no sound, and i just assumed he was like 24-years old. oh my god this is hilarious. THIRTEEN???????

 

i think it would have been much more hilarious had his dad pulled some strings and got him into the pass, punt, and kick competition at the age of 24.

[ELCABALLO45]

Last call for Power rankings. Will post them tonight when I get home.

[Guest]

Palmer throws his second pick-six of the game.

 

EDIT: They took it back, just his second horrible interception of the game.

[Guest]

Palmer has seven incompletions today.

 

Three of them went to the Colts.

[shnsajax]

Colt McCoy ties it against the Jets, probably going to OT.

[Guest]

No way the Bengals recovered that.

 

And LOL at the kicker literally being carried off the field.

[Guest]

That's not reviewable? What a joke.

 

Indy recovered.

 

Nevermind, it all evened out. Cincinnati fumbled again and Indy recovered.

[Careless]

That's an awful loss for Houston. Only Sulley's teams

[shnsajax]

Holy [expletive] the Jacksonville hail mary was great