Re: NHL (Blackhawks included) offseason thread

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i don't know how they can put kiprusoff in tier 2 and luongo in tier 3. kiprusoff has sucked pretty hard in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

 

I think it's actually a scale ranking the goalies by how much the Blackhawks own them. The higher the tier the more we own them.

 

Luongo is in Tier -90000

[17 Seconds]

lebrun says versteeg has been traded to toronto. from his twitter-

 

Leafs acquire Versteeg from Chicago

Leafs get Versteeg and the rights to winger Bill Sweatt in exchange for forwards Viktor Stalberg, Chris DiDomenico and Philippe Paradis

 

anybody know anything about those players?

 

anyways, i'm thrilled if this means we get to keep laddy.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

BTW, it was posted on HFboards today that someone got the Sun-Times beat reporter to respond to him and say that Bowman said the only bonus cap hit is the $1.3 million for Toews for the Conn Smythe, not the total of $4 million and change that had been reported.

 

That and the Versteeg trade are very good moves.

 

Versteeg and Byfuglien were nice players, especially when they were cheaper, but they are overrated and not worth tying up precious cap space on.

[17 Seconds]

how many more guys do you think we're going to lose?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Sweatt was a guy we had already decided wasn't worth the cost of signing him.

 

Stalberg is the Leaf's No. 5 prospect, scouting report here:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/viktor_stalberg

 

DiDiadsgasilhf was No. 12

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/chris_didomenico

 

 

Paradis No. 13

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/philippe_paradis

 

These guys are all overrated because they are Toronto prospects, but Stalberg is a nice get.

 

HockeysFuture rating of Stalberg would put him tied with Olson and Beach for the best in the organization.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

how many more guys do you think we're going to lose?

 

As far as I can tell, that should be it, unless someone goes nuts on an offer sheet for one of our RFAs. I think we can even afford to keep Ladd.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm going to go ahead and say it: Bowman is amazing. He correctly identified the right two guys to move, and he got way more for them than I expected.

 

If the reported cap numbers are correct, we shouldn't need to lose any more guys. We lost a sixth defenseman, made a slight downgrade at 4th line center, and lost a pair of second-rate wingers, and got back a ton of organizational depth.

 

This team will be right back in the thick of it next year.

[17 Seconds]

how many more guys do you think we're going to lose?

 

As far as I can tell, that should be it, unless someone goes nuts on an offer sheet for one of our RFAs. I think we can even afford to keep Ladd.

 

This would end up being an amazing offseason (considering what we were prepared for) if this is it. I was just concerned about keeping Sharp and Hjalmarsson, and now we might not even end up losing Ladd? Awesome

 

Red Wings fans must be lovin this

[bukie]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

[UMFan83]

It will be nice to not have Versteeg holding onto the puck way too long and turning it over next year.

 

That said he did have one of my favorite goals of the playoffs in Game 2 against Vancouver.

[Butterscup1679666578]

That's a damn fine trade. Bowman is such a stud. It's so nice having a team with a competent front office.

[17 Seconds]

kyle, how much do you think ladd, hjalmarsson, and niemi will get?

[17 Seconds]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

[Magnetic Curses]

lebrun says versteeg has been traded to toronto. from his twitter-

 

Leafs acquire Versteeg from Chicago

Leafs get Versteeg and the rights to winger Bill Sweatt in exchange for forwards Viktor Stalberg, Chris DiDomenico and Philippe Paradis

 

anybody know anything about those players?

 

anyways, i'm thrilled if this means we get to keep laddy.

 

honestly, i'd rather have versteeg than ladd. i don't think it's a huge difference, but i think versteeg is a more dynamic and creative player and will continue to improve.

[RedFlash]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

 

Yeah, but Wings fans are not thinking straight. They are basing their opinions on the hope the Hawks return to faiure, which they won't.

Edited July 1, 2010 by RedFlash

[17 Seconds]

i dont think you give enough credit to ladd.

 

i don't think versteeg really brings anything to the table. his dynamics usually lead to him turning the puck over. ladd is a really solid 2-way forward

 

also, ladd is a [expletive] warrior, and hockey is a sport where stuff like that actually matters in the playoffs.

[NewUserName]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

 

Hawks fans also believed Bowman when he said that no more trades were needed...guess we all live in our delusions:)

[Magnetic Curses]

i dont think you give enough credit to ladd.

 

i don't think versteeg really brings anything to the table. his dynamics usually lead to him turning the puck over. ladd is a really solid 2-way forward

 

also, ladd is a [expletive] warrior, and hockey is a sport where stuff like that actually matters in the playoffs.

 

fair enough, ladd is bigger, which seems to be what bowman is valuing right now, and has won the cup twice. keeping either one would be a success. maybe i just like the steeger's style, he's had some amazing goals.

[17 Seconds]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

 

Hawks fans also believed Bowman when he said that no more trades were needed...guess we all live in our delusions:)

 

who believed that? not knowledgable fans

[Drew Doughty]

andy strickland/james mirtle both say that andrew ladd is still being shopped. hard to tell if he's actually being shopped or if lots of teams are just inquiring, but just throwing that out there.

 

[NewUserName]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

 

Hawks fans also believed Bowman when he said that no more trades were needed...guess we all live in our delusions:)

 

who believed that? not knowledgable fans

 

unlike Wings fans?

 

Also Buff, Sopel, Versteeg and Madden are significant loses. Most of these knowledgeable Hawks fans seem to think they are not

[Magnetic Curses]

the hawks are actually terrible and didn't win the cup.

[17 Seconds]

At this point, the only drama is who ends up being the starting goaltender next season (i.e. if someone offers Niemi upwards of 3 mil).

 

Wings fans still seem to think we're gonna lose significant guys

 

Hawks fans also believed Bowman when he said that no more trades were needed...guess we all live in our delusions:)

 

who believed that? not knowledgable fans

 

unlike Wings fans?

 

Also Buff, Sopel, Versteeg and Madden are significant loses. Most of these knowledgeable Hawks fans seem to think they are not

 

i'm not talking about those guys. i went to a red wings board and theyre convinced they're going to lose MORE significant guys. that's what im talking about. try to keep up.

[Magnetic Curses]

the hawks can't possibly keep keith, kane, toews, or seabrook. no matter how you work the salries, it doesn't work. have fun with the cup this year, hawks, it's going to be another 50 years.

 

 

AT LEAST!

[17 Seconds]

it's sounding like that stuff about only the 1.3 going against the cap is BS. sounds like it's still the 4.2 mil

 

which means ladd and probably sharp or bolland.

 

maybe start thinking about a 95-100 point season next year?