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In 3 weeks he has pitched 6 innings. He has pitched in a save or hold situation once. He has come in more blowouts than close games. I know you all agree with me and I'm beating a dead horse.

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You are beating a dead horse, but it's the least of our worries right now. Although it's slipped a bit in the last 10 days or so, our rotation is still the strongest and most consistent thing on our team.
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Now is the perfect time to trade him if we can-we'll probably have to eat some of the contract, but so be it
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Now is the perfect time to trade him if we can-we'll probably have to eat some of the contract, but so be it

 

Yes, it's ideal. The organization has demoted him from opening day starter to occasional reliever in favor of Randy Wells, Carlos Silva and Tom Gorzellany. The only thing better would be if they made him stay back in Chicago next week when they head to Philly, that way other teams would know they are serious and make their very best offers.

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Go ahead and move him back into the rotation if you want. Not sure it will make much difference most days, when we struggle to tally 2 runs. But go ahead.

 

I think I'd rather start looking to trade him, as jacey and jcf suggest.

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Go ahead and move him back into the rotation if you want. Not sure it will make much difference most days, when we struggle to tally 2 runs. But go ahead.

 

I think I'd rather start looking to trade him, as jacey and jcf suggest.

 

Seriously?

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Go ahead and move him back into the rotation if you want. Not sure it will make much difference most days, when we struggle to tally 2 runs. But go ahead.

 

I think I'd rather start looking to trade him, as jacey and jcf suggest.

 

Seriously?

 

Whoops, looks like I misread Jersey's post. But yes -- actually I don't see why anyone should be off the table.

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Go ahead and move him back into the rotation if you want. Not sure it will make much difference most days, when we struggle to tally 2 runs. But go ahead.

 

I think I'd rather start looking to trade him, as jacey and jcf suggest.

 

Seriously?

 

Whoops, looks like I misread Jersey's post. But yes -- actually I don't see why anyone should be off the table.

 

Taking him off the table has nothing to do with it, you can't trade a pitcher with a huge contract for any sort of value when you handling him the way the Cubs are handling Zambrano.

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Bet they can get some value for him....tell me there aren't any teams willing to take him off our hands and you'd be wrong. We aren't going to get as much now as maybe we would have when he was a 20 game winner...Oh yeah, he never was a 20 game winner. Why not trade him now? Get a decent prospect or two would be better than letting him rot in the pen if thats where they plan to keep him. I think he's got value-at least he's not losing value by pitching 5 innnings of so-so baseball and then showing other teams what he has become.
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Bet they can get some value for him....tell me there aren't any teams willing to take him off our hands and you'd be wrong. We aren't going to get as much now as maybe we would have when he was a 20 game winner...Oh yeah, he never was a 20 game winner. Why not trade him now? Get a decent prospect or two would be better than letting him rot in the pen if thats where they plan to keep him. I think he's got value-at least he's not losing value by pitching 5 innnings of so-so baseball and then showing other teams what he has become.

 

Well, personally...

 

...Forget it

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Bet they can get some value for him....tell me there aren't any teams willing to take him off our hands and you'd be wrong. We aren't going to get as much now as maybe we would have when he was a 20 game winner...Oh yeah, he never was a 20 game winner. Why not trade him now? Get a decent prospect or two would be better than letting him rot in the pen if thats where they plan to keep him. I think he's got value-at least he's not losing value by pitching 5 innnings of so-so baseball and then showing other teams what he has become.

 

What has he become?

 

I love the attitude that just because he hasn't turned out to be the "20 win ace" people wanted him to be then he must be useless as a starting pitcher. Brilliant.

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Go ahead and move him back into the rotation if you want. Not sure it will make much difference most days, when we struggle to tally 2 runs. But go ahead.

 

I think I'd rather start looking to trade him, as jacey and jcf suggest.

 

Seriously?

 

Whoops, looks like I misread Jersey's post. But yes -- actually I don't see why anyone should be off the table.

 

Taking him off the table has nothing to do with it, you can't trade a pitcher with a huge contract for any sort of value when you handling him the way the Cubs are handling Zambrano.

 

Teams won't understand that Z is still strong starter material just because Lou decided to put him in the pen?

 

I don't buy that.

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Mitch Williams of MLB Network keeps insisting Zambrano is going to be our closer. He says, "Lou is grooming him to be the closer. He's pitching in the 8th as a set-up man, they could have Marmol as the set-up man and Z the closer."

 

I personally think he's an idiot, but hey, he must've done something to get that job.

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Mitch is definitely wrong. Marmol is clearly entrenched in the closer role and has done absolutely nothing to lose it. Even Lou can't be so stupid as to not see that.
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Mitch Williams of MLB Network keeps insisting Zambrano is going to be our closer. He says, "Lou is grooming him to be the closer. He's pitching in the 8th as a set-up man, they could have Marmol as the set-up man and Z the closer."

 

I personally think he's an idiot, but hey, he must've done something to get that job.

 

Yeah, he slept with Harold Reynolds.

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Ok, I can't resist. Zambrano [expletive] tied for the NL lead in wins in 2006, while pitching for the worst team in the NL.

 

People act like there are hordes of pitchers who win 20 games a year like it's nothing. Greg Maddux won 20(exactly) twice in his entire [expletive] career. Pedro won 20+ twice in his career. John Smoltz did it once. Johan once (exactly 20). Jake Peavy, never. [expletive] pitching wins sideways

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