Sandberg to coach Iowa Cubs in 2010

[scarey]

I've listened to a lot of his games at Peoria and Tennessee. He bunted a lot. Compared to other Cub minor league games and Piniella, it sure seems like he had his guys bunting way more (I know, I don't have numbers backing this up and just my perception).

 

But he bunted with his best power hitters. And he bunted in odd situations (down multiple runs late; with his 3 and 4 hitters in the top of the 1st after two straight walks). He was also super aggressive on the base paths (hit and run and otherwise), even with slower base runners who probably should never be running.

 

Sure, you could say he was training his minor leaguers in these aspects of the game but it does seem like his teams do it way more than other teams.

 

And his Yahoo editorials were definitely telling.

 

That's the testimonial I'm looking for.

[Rob]

This thread is ridiculous. It seems to me that you guys are all jumping to conlusions based on... a whole lot of nothing. The only thing I've seen that gives anyone fuel is Rob's post about Ryno's public mockery of advanced metrics and small ball managerial style (which, no offense to you Rob, but I haven't seen any statements to back these accusations up).

 

I honestly don't know what his managerial style is like other than he seems to get ejected quite a bit. However, I looked up some statistics and they don't seem to go along with these "sac bunt with cleanup hitters!" comments being thrown around.

 

I compared Piniella's sac hits the last three years with the Cubs to Trammel's three years in Detroit and Sandberg's last three years in the minors (I took his numbers and extrapolated them for 162 games).

 

Piniella averaged 59 SH per season.

Trammel averaged 53 SH per season.

Sandberg averaged 61 SH per season.

 

Compare that to Dusty Baker who averaged about 80 SH per season while with the Cubs and I think you'll see that Sandberg isn't as much a sac bunt type guy as you guys are making him out to be.

 

You guys are totally buying into the mob mentality. You're hearing something uncomfirmed and piling on based on that info. I'm not even trying to say that Sandberg does NOT like to sac bunt. All I'm saying is you need to be better informed instead of using this.

 

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/70384439_ba1fd5b9de.jpg

 

No offense taken, I didn't cite a source... though I would think I'm quickly approaching the territory where people should start trusting my statements at face value.

 

He's taken a few opportunities to rip into intelligent thought ever since the 1995 biography Second to Home. I'd cite passages for you, but I left the book at my parents house. Normally I'd give the man the benefit of the doubt when a book was written 14 years ago and assume he might have gotten smarter. But his HoF induction speech, Yahoo articles, etc... seem to paint a pretty clear picture that he still doesn't buy into analytical baseball. He's still about playing the game "the right way," which includes bunting like there's no tomorrow.

 

Oh, and except for last season where he managed at AA, he'd had a DH in the previous two years. Those bunting numbers would likely have been higher if he had the pitcher batting.

[QcCubFan]

I don't hate Sandberg, I'll always appreciate what he did for the Cubs as a player. But I'll put it this way: If his name wasn't "Ryne Sandberg" would ANYONE be suggesting him as a candidate to replace Lou when he moves on?

[dew1679666265]

I've listened to a lot of his games at Peoria and Tennessee. He bunted a lot. Compared to other Cub minor league games and Piniella, it sure seems like he had his guys bunting way more (I know, I don't have numbers backing this up and just my perception).

 

But he bunted with his best power hitters. And he bunted in odd situations (down multiple runs late; with his 3 and 4 hitters in the top of the 1st after two straight walks). He was also super aggressive on the base paths (hit and run and otherwise), even with slower base runners who probably should never be running.

 

Sure, you could say he was training his minor leaguers in these aspects of the game but it does seem like his teams do it way more than other teams.

 

And his Yahoo editorials were definitely telling.

 

That's the testimonial I'm looking for.

 

I listened to at least parts of quite a few Smokies games as well and I noticed many of the things Raisin is talking about. He's extremely aggressive on the basepaths and likes to sac bunt quite often.

[A New Era]

I don't hate Sandberg, I'll always appreciate what he did for the Cubs as a player. But I'll put it this way: If his name wasn't "Ryne Sandberg" would ANYONE be suggesting him as a candidate to replace Lou when he moves on?

 

No.

[Guest]

Enjoy this in Des Moines:

[SouthSideRyan]

Enjoy this in Des Moines:

 

Look at the fire and passion! Just what this team needs!!!

[imb]

hahahahah, welp, that's about a 6-game suspension in MLB

[cbbryan]

VIDEO: Sandberg speaks about his new job, Dawson's introduction to the HOF, and McGwire's admission to steroids.

[TruffleShuffle]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/#ixzz0hnZ5Q4C5

 

The Cubs already have a manager-in-waiting if Lou Piniella does not come back in 2011 on a new contract, according to one executive familiar with the club's thinking. It's Ryne Sandberg, their Triple-A manager and the darling of new Cubs ownership.

 

 

vomit.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'd say "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" except that has been the obvious move all along. It's a PR dream.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Im not too worried about Sanberg managing the team if there continues to be solid hitting coaches and pitching coaches to support him.

 

Not near a choice I would make but still.

 

I am just hoping the yankees flop and Girardi gets the boot. I would love Joe managing the Cubs.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If McGwire can be the Cardinals' hitting coach and Sandberg is our manager, I'd want Sosa to be our hitting coach. That'd be awesome.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

White or Black Sammy?

[NCCubFan]

Im not too worried about Sanberg managing the team if there continues to be solid hitting coaches and pitching coaches to support him.

I'm not worried about Sanberg managing the team under ANY circumstances. In fact, I'd bet my life savings that Sanberg does not ever become Cubs' manager.

[NCCubFan]

Oh, and time for the obligatory

 

I hate Ryne Sandberg.

 

The minor leagues are supposed to be about the young kids. Helping the kids become major leaguers. He's only out for himself, just like he always was. All he ever cared about was winning - winning - winning.

 

A real LOSER off-the-field too. No wonder he's headed for a second DIVORCE. LOUSY family man.

 

The Hall of Fame does not make you a good person. He let it go to his head. I hope to GOD he never ever manages the CUBS. I'll become a Whie Sox fan.

 

IT'S NICE TO BE IMPORTANT BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO BE NICE!!!!"

[TruffleShuffle]

Im not too worried about Sanberg managing the team if there continues to be solid hitting coaches and pitching coaches to support him.

I'm not worried about Sanberg managing the team under ANY circumstances. In fact, I'd bet my life savings that Sanberg does not ever become Cubs' manager.

 

you would??? it seems like a cubbish thing to do; they've already promoted him (very quickly) to their most advanced affiliate and it would be a p.r. boon among most of the fans.

[Sammy Sofa]

Nick LaWhoosh.

[NCCubFan]

Im not too worried about Sanberg managing the team if there continues to be solid hitting coaches and pitching coaches to support him.

I'm not worried about Sanberg managing the team under ANY circumstances. In fact, I'd bet my life savings that Sanberg does not ever become Cubs' manager.

 

you would??? it seems like a cubbish thing to do; they've already promoted him (very quickly) to their most advanced affiliate and it would be a p.r. boon among most of the fans.

Read the bolded part of the post I quoted.

[TruffleShuffle]

oh it was a dumb joke, should've known

[KaiserCesar]

oh it was a dumb joke, should've known

 

lol, spelling

 

I, for one, really like than Ryan Sanburgh

[ScrubMD]

I can't wait for Sandberg to be the manager. He's my favorite player ever and the Cubs haven't done anything in my lifetime anyway. As long as he doesn't Dusty the pitchers, I'll like him being the coach. What we really need is a good GM. That's 100 times more important than the manager.

[jersey cubs fan]

I can't wait for Sandberg to be the manager. He's my favorite player ever and the Cubs haven't done anything in my lifetime anyway. As long as he doesn't Dusty the pitchers, I'll like him being the coach. What we really need is a good GM. That's 100 times more important than the manager.

 

I agree with the second half. I'm not looking forward to Sandberg at all, but my guess is he won't be as headstrong as Dusty was about the abuse. He's being exposed to the idea of taking care of pitchers in the minors. And personally I think the next logical step is for him to be the bench coach in the majors under Trammel. Or, if Lou returns, then being the bench coach and Trammel moving on.

 

Players win games, managers lose them. They need a GM to find the right players and then hope the manager doesn't get in the way. Let the nostalgia freaks fall in love with Sandberg, I don't care, unless he abuses pitchers and openly promotes a free swinging mentality.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Given his HOF induction speech, I'm a little nervous about Sandberg getting into pointless p-contests with good players over silly ish.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Would anyone here give Trammel a shot to manage with Sandberg as the bench coach? Im not saying I want Sandberg as either but a lot of people have drawn the conclusion he will be a part of the big league club sooner than later. I would much rather have Trammel at the helm than Sandberg.