Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[hawkeyecub]

Is there any reason to get excited over Carlos Silva? I just looked at his stats and they are freaking brutal.

 

Have you read any of the thread?

 

And to atc, they take on Milton's contract, we take on Silva's. They send $9M to us to assist in paying that. So we net about $6M.

[Hector Villanuevas Pants]

Milton Bradley is a scumbag, and I celebrate the fact that he is leaving Chicago.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Milton Bradley is a scumbag, and I celebrate the fact that he is leaving Chicago.

 

Well good. Enjoy Carlos Silva, Scott Podsednik, and a 3rd or 4th place finish. Merry Christmas from the fat man(not Santa)

[C.C.]

We basically traded contracts. We don't pay all of Bradley AND Silva's contracts. From what I understand we save $6 mil over two years but now we are still paying Silva near $10 MILLION over the each next two years.

 

Wait. So we are saving 6 million over two years? Well that makes it a bit easier to swallow. Hopefully we don't use the money on a crappy bullpen guy or something.

[A New Era]

Yep. I'm done with this team.

 

Will you come back when (hopefully) hendry is fired and with Ricketts starting to pull this ship in the right direction?

[A New Era]

We basically traded contracts. We don't pay all of Bradley AND Silva's contracts. From what I understand we save $6 mil over two years but now we are still paying Silva near $10 MILLION over the each next two years.

 

Wait. So we are saving 6 million over two years? Well that makes it a bit easier to swallow. Hopefully we don't use the money on a crappy bullpen guy or something.

 

That's how I understand it. We swap Contracts. I believe Silva is owed about 2-3 mil more than Bradley including the 2 mil buyout? And the Mariners sent us about 6 mil over 2 years? But yeah it's a savings. If it's enough to help us afford Byrd then that's the best Hendry can do to salvage this train wreck he created.

 

The only thing is Seattle gets an actual productive player and gets rid of an albatross contract of a pitcher they had by just pitching in 6 mil or so extra the next 2 years. They made out much better than us. Well all I can say is I'm glad it's over but I am no longer a Hendry supporter. Hendry has always been decent at trades, but he has way too many stupid downfalls to even try to defend anymore.

[loukycub]

anyone see milton's comments after the trade?

 

if anyone seriously believes that he could have helped his situation with the team any from the time he was suspended until yesterday by being the bigger man, and apologizing, take a look. if he wanted the opportunity to really bury the cubs and jim hendry in particular, he could have said that he regrets it didn't work in chicago, that he did some things that didn't help the situation much either.

 

instead?

 

"i'm a mariner now. chicago is in the past." wow milton, way to be the bigger man. let me tell you, paraphrasing mark mcgwire's very regrettable comments to congress will not help your situation any now or ever. a classier way out of town would be to admit you made mistakes (even if you believe you really didn't make any) and thank the fans for their support, even the ones who mercilessly booed you.

 

enjoy the headcase seattle. you're so isolated in the sports world that maybe if milton blows a gasket nobody would know about it and he can calm down.

[Electron Blue]

anyone see milton's comments after the trade?

 

if anyone seriously believes that he could have helped his situation with the team any from the time he was suspended until yesterday by being the bigger man, and apologizing, take a look. if he wanted the opportunity to really bury the cubs and jim hendry in particular, he could have said that he regrets it didn't work in chicago, that he did some things that didn't help the situation much either.

 

instead?

 

"i'm a mariner now. chicago is in the past." wow milton, way to be the bigger man. let me tell you, paraphrasing mark mcgwire's very regrettable comments to congress will not help your situation any now or ever. a classier way out of town would be to admit you made mistakes (even if you believe you really didn't make any) and thank the fans for their support, even the ones who mercilessly booed you.

 

enjoy the headcase seattle. you're so isolated in the sports world that maybe if milton blows a gasket nobody would know about it and he can calm down.

 

wow, I think you're really misunderstanding what is actually a fairly classy response from milton

[Hector Villanuevas Pants]

wow, I think you're really misunderstanding what is actually a fairly classy response from milton

 

The words "classy" and "Milton Bradley" should never be used in the same sentence unless you are referring to a board game.

[soapy]

wow, I think you're really misunderstanding what is actually a fairly classy response from milton

 

The words "classy" and "Milton Bradley" should never be used in the same sentence unless you are referring to a board game.

 

which is funny because Mariners fans would probably say the same thing about Carlos Silva. that's okay, we replaced a dick who can actually produce on the field with a dick who can't.

[Guest]

"i'm a mariner now. chicago is in the past."

 

Translated: I had sex with every Chicago Cub player's wife and Jim Hendry's mother. There is nothing more to accomplish here.

[Backtobanks]

I agree with all of the negativity in the last 60+ pages and the Mariners got the more productive player in this trade, but the Mariners better hope Milton produces better than a BA of .257 with 12 HRs and 40 RBIs or the one newspaper and the less-passionate fans will be all over him too. The won't be upset because the traded the "great" Carlos Silva for him, but the team is shelling out $27 million for him and they are expected to be contenders next year.

[gflore34]

Did anyone think this was going to end well for the Cubs? I didn't, they backed themselves into a corner, there's no way a team was going to give up even a decent player in trade for Bradley. I still believe they would have been better served by keeping Bradley - a 1-2 of Fukedome and Bradley may have worked out pretty well.

[rocket]

anyone see milton's comments after the trade?

 

if anyone seriously believes that he could have helped his situation with the team any from the time he was suspended until yesterday by being the bigger man, and apologizing, take a look. if he wanted the opportunity to really bury the cubs and jim hendry in particular, he could have said that he regrets it didn't work in chicago, that he did some things that didn't help the situation much either.

 

instead?

 

"i'm a mariner now. chicago is in the past." wow milton, way to be the bigger man. let me tell you, paraphrasing mark mcgwire's very regrettable comments to congress will not help your situation any now or ever. a classier way out of town would be to admit you made mistakes (even if you believe you really didn't make any) and thank the fans for their support, even the ones who mercilessly booed you.

 

enjoy the headcase seattle. you're so isolated in the sports world that maybe if milton blows a gasket nobody would know about it and he can calm down.

 

haha, so wait a second. a seattle reporter probably asked a question about chicago to milton, probably trying to bait him to trash the cubs. instead milton took the high road, and this is a problem?

[Andy]

Milton was supposed to grovel on his knees for forgiveness from the almighty Cubs fan. Don't you understand?

[JimSorgi]

Hey guys, I heard Milton say that he really respects the Cubs players even after all that has happened. Someone needs to kick his ass!

[inari]

Did anyone hear about Cubs players standing up in applause after Bradley was suspended? It was in the Trib today. Sounded like bull.

[Hector Villanuevas Pants]

Milton Bradly could be AL MVP next year with Seattle. It doesn't matter. He wouldn't have done that with the Cubs. Did anyone watch last season? I mean it was pretty miserable, so I wouldn't blame you if you decided not to or to forget it. But, as good as Milton Bradley can be, he proved to me that he is one of the most selfish, least professional, and least mentally tough players out there. Last year he got off to a slow start, and couldn't get out of that rut. Instead of taking responsibility for his poor performance and doing everything he could to help the team win, he became a malcontent, a clubhouse cancer, and a distraction. He blamed umpires for bad calls, Piniella and the coaches for not using him property, his teammates for not being his friends, the fans being racist, the media for being the media, and anyone else he could think of but himself for his poor performance.

 

What evidence has anyone seen that Milton Bradley has learned anything from last season and would be able to apply those lessons to being a productive player in 2010 for the Cubs? Does anyone really think that he could have come back to the Cubs next season and even been remotely successful? Does anyone really think he could have handled the pressure of the intense media scrutiny, the constant booing of the fans, the skepticism of his coaches and fellow players to have a good year? It would have been a disaster from day one of spring training and could only end even worse than it already has, likely with the Cubs waiving him and eating his whole salary.

 

Signing Bradley was a high risk, high reward signing by Hendry that was an absolute failure. The fact that the Cubs got $6 million from Seattle should be considered a win. I don't care about Silva. He's the equivalent of a bag of baseballs (a very large bag of baseballs). I don't care what Bradley does for Seattle next year because he wouldn't have done it with the Cubs.

[Guest]

Did anyone think this was going to end well for the Cubs? I didn't, they backed themselves into a corner, there's no way a team was going to give up even a decent player in trade for Bradley. I still believe they would have been better served by keeping Bradley - a 1-2 of Fukedome and Bradley may have worked out pretty well.

 

In all honesty, I knew the Cubs were going to get taken to the cleaners. I sorta figured they could get something better than Carlos Silva in return, but leave it to Jim Hendry to take it to a whole new level of bad.

 

There is one thing that could happen out of this that would make me actually like this trade a little bit, and that would be if Hendry lost his job because of it. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

 

It seems like too many people out there support the trading of productive pieces for non productive pieces for the sake of a happier clubhouse.

[Neuby]

What is it 9 teams in ten years? Milton is sooooooo talented and his behavior isn't a problem but teams just keep giving him away. This wasn't a Cubs problem it's a Milton Bradley problem and sadly because Milton lacked a home life growing up no can tell Milton that because if you do your racist or out to get Milton. I love how message board posters , who never played in the bigs can pretend to know what goes on in these clubhouses with such certainty .Again not defending Jim Hendry or Carlos Silva, but if all of major league baseball wouldn't gamble on the great Milton Bradley unless it was the Cubs paying the entire bill it goes to show that Major League teams might just get Milton just a little bit better than us.

[inari]

What is it 9 teams in ten years? Milton is sooooooo talented and his behavior isn't a problem but teams just keep giving him away. This wasn't a Cubs problem it's a Milton Bradley problem and sadly because Milton lacked a home life growing up no can tell Milton that because if you do your racist or out to get Milton. I love how message board posters , who never played in the bigs can pretend to know what goes on in these clubhouses with such certainty .Again not defending Jim Hendry or Carlos Silva, but if all of major league baseball wouldn't gamble on the great Milton Bradley unless it was the Cubs paying the entire bill it goes to show that Major League teams might just get Milton just a little bit better than us.

 

Or that they knew Hendry was so desperate to get rid of him that there was no reason to pay top dollar.

[Guest]

Milton Bradly could be AL MVP next year with Seattle. It doesn't matter. He wouldn't have done that with the Cubs. Did anyone watch last season? I mean it was pretty miserable, so I wouldn't blame you if you decided not to or to forget it. But, as good as Milton Bradley can be, he proved to me that he is one of the most selfish, least professional, and least mentally tough players out there. Last year he got off to a slow start, and couldn't get out of that rut. Instead of taking responsibility for his poor performance and doing everything he could to help the team win, he became a malcontent, a clubhouse cancer, and a distraction. He blamed umpires for bad calls, Piniella and the coaches for not using him property, his teammates for not being his friends, the fans being racist, the media for being the media, and anyone else he could think of but himself for his poor performance.

 

What evidence has anyone seen that Milton Bradley has learned anything from last season and would be able to apply those lessons to being a productive player in 2010 for the Cubs? Does anyone really think that he could have come back to the Cubs next season and even been remotely successful? Does anyone really think he could have handled the pressure of the intense media scrutiny, the constant booing of the fans, the skepticism of his coaches and fellow players to have a good year? It would have been a disaster from day one of spring training and could only end even worse than it already has, likely with the Cubs waiving him and eating his whole salary.

 

Signing Bradley was a high risk, high reward signing by Hendry that was an absolute failure. The fact that the Cubs got $6 million from Seattle should be considered a win. I don't care about Silva. He's the equivalent of a bag of baseballs (a very large bag of baseballs). I don't care what Bradley does for Seattle next year because he wouldn't have done it with the Cubs.

 

Even if everything you say in your post is true, are you giving Hendry a pass? Hendry created the mess by signing him. He signed him for more money than he was worth and for more years than he should have. There were other players available that were just as talented as Bradley. Hendry didn't even talk to some of those other guys. He said from the start that Bradley was his man. Less than 1 year later, he trades him for pennies on the dollar, which now puts the entire 2010 season in jeopardy after an already failed 2009.

 

Fine. Milton sucks as a human being. But, Milton didn't force that contract. Milton didn't put himself on the Cubs roster. Hendry did. If Milton has to go, so should Hendry.

[Hector Villanuevas Pants]

Milton Bradly could be AL MVP next year with Seattle. It doesn't matter. He wouldn't have done that with the Cubs. Did anyone watch last season? I mean it was pretty miserable, so I wouldn't blame you if you decided not to or to forget it. But, as good as Milton Bradley can be, he proved to me that he is one of the most selfish, least professional, and least mentally tough players out there. Last year he got off to a slow start, and couldn't get out of that rut. Instead of taking responsibility for his poor performance and doing everything he could to help the team win, he became a malcontent, a clubhouse cancer, and a distraction. He blamed umpires for bad calls, Piniella and the coaches for not using him property, his teammates for not being his friends, the fans being racist, the media for being the media, and anyone else he could think of but himself for his poor performance.

 

What evidence has anyone seen that Milton Bradley has learned anything from last season and would be able to apply those lessons to being a productive player in 2010 for the Cubs? Does anyone really think that he could have come back to the Cubs next season and even been remotely successful? Does anyone really think he could have handled the pressure of the intense media scrutiny, the constant booing of the fans, the skepticism of his coaches and fellow players to have a good year? It would have been a disaster from day one of spring training and could only end even worse than it already has, likely with the Cubs waiving him and eating his whole salary.

 

Signing Bradley was a high risk, high reward signing by Hendry that was an absolute failure. The fact that the Cubs got $6 million from Seattle should be considered a win. I don't care about Silva. He's the equivalent of a bag of baseballs (a very large bag of baseballs). I don't care what Bradley does for Seattle next year because he wouldn't have done it with the Cubs.

 

Even if everything you say in your post is true, are you giving Hendry a pass? Hendry created the mess by signing him. He signed him for more money than he was worth and for more years than he should have. There were other players available that were just as talented as Bradley. Hendry didn't even talk to some of those other guys. He said from the start that Bradley was his man. Less than 1 year later, he trades him for pennies on the dollar, which now puts the entire 2010 season in jeopardy after an already failed 2009.

 

Fine. Milton sucks as a human being. But, Milton didn't force that contract. Milton didn't put himself on the Cubs roster. Hendry did. If Milton has to go, so should Hendry.

 

It's time for Hendry to go.

[nolanwood]

The worst part of this deal is that we now have this garbage bag of a pitcher who WILL be in our rotation so the Cubs can necessitate the amount of $$ he is making. The loss of Bradley hurt, but the gaining of Silva makes it 10x worse. Odds that our rotation sucks next year?

[gflore34]

Did anyone think this was going to end well for the Cubs? I didn't, they backed themselves into a corner, there's no way a team was going to give up even a decent player in trade for Bradley. I still believe they would have been better served by keeping Bradley - a 1-2 of Fukedome and Bradley may have worked out pretty well.

 

In all honesty, I knew the Cubs were going to get taken to the cleaners. I sorta figured they could get something better than Carlos Silva in return, but leave it to Jim Hendry to take it to a whole new level of bad.

 

There is one thing that could happen out of this that would make me actually like this trade a little bit, and that would be if Hendry lost his job because of it. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

 

It seems like too many people out there support the trading of productive pieces for non productive pieces for the sake of a happier clubhouse.

 

The whole happier clubhouse factor is a load of garbage, good teams win, period, look at the A's of the earlier 70's. Reggie Jackson et al fought in the clubhouse yet, they managed to win three consecutive WS.