Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[ThePenguin11]

 

BECAUSE HE WAS A DISTRACTION IN THE MEDIA, TO HIS MANAGER AND HIS TEAMMATES. NOBODY LIKED HIM AND NOBODY WANTED HIM AROUND. IT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION THAT HE HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CUBS PERFECT, HAPPY, FUZZY, STUPID EXISTENCE. That's just how that [expletive] works.

 

And why is any of this true? Because the people in management positions completely fubared the handling of the situation. Suspension, bad mouthing, and just general stupidity in dealing with the situation is what caused it. Get that through your head. If Theo Epstein had the same issue, you wouldn't hear a peep out of him about how difficult the player made the situation. He didn't bad mouth Manny when he had to get rid of him. He may have overpaid to get rid of him, but he got something decent in return. The way the Cubs allowed the situation to play out is the reason that there was a perception the "he couldn't come back". If they kept their mouths shut and dealt with it like adults instead of 10 year olds, Milton might be a Cub still and maybe provided some much needed production next year.

 

Well done. :clapping:

 

Even without taking everything into account, the way the Milton situation was handled should have cost multiple people their jobs. It should have been an internal decision and conversation to trade him. Jim literally embarrassed and trashed Milton to his teammates and the rest of the league and then tried to sell him to the league as something great. Big shocker that we had to take an awful deal and an awful player to fix a problem that never should have existed.

 

This is also true. The Cubs did a terrible job handling this situation. Bradley was a jackass but the Cubs were plain stupid in how they handled this.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

Remember when the Mariners tried to have a mutiny against Ichiro? Who do you think orchestrated that? For $15 million, Silva better be making balloon animals in the clubhouse. Apparently he's just as bad, if not worse, than Bradley.

 

http://ussmariner.com/2009/03/27/ichiro-returns-to-fetid-odor-of-silva-suggestions/

 

Well he's the size of one of those Macy's baloons does that help?

[Guancous]

I wonder if this is just cause for Hendry's firing? I would sure hope so.

 

My boss would fire me if I paid $20 million for an employee, fired him to get $5 million back then replaced him with Bernie Madoff.

[champaignchris]

I just don't understand how this is supposed to make things more acceptable.

He's telling us we're idiots for being Cubs fans.

[Larry Horse]

Maybe Rudy Jaramillo can help Silva.

[Shilzzz]

well at least the new general manager will have a high draft pick after the '10 season. sigh

[jersey cubs fan]

Have I once expressed an opinion on what I think the Cubs should have done????? Have I expressed an opinion on why this is right or wrong??? All I did was give you the Cubs F-ed up reasoning behind making a deal like this.

 

 

You really think you needed to explain the reasoning? We know the reasoning. You know we know the reasoning. You were attacking the people that were criticizing the reasoning.

[Derwood]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

nothing random about it

[inari]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

What's he saying?

[TruffleShuffle]

Question in all seriousness (and It will probably get lost amongst all of the angry posts)...

 

 

What will it take from Silva for this trade to turn into something similar to the Karros/Grudz for Hundley trade? While Karros and Grudz were both better players at the time of the trade, it was not a good looking deal at the time.

 

If Silva was able to muster 150 innings with a 4.25 era, 1.3 WHIP, 6K per 9, 3BB per 9 how would the trade look?

 

Also, are any of the predicitions sites out yet with their stuff?

 

there is just about a zero percent chance that carlos silva would strike out 6 men per 9 innings. as for the other numbers, he'd have to be better than he's been in at least 4 years, so good luck with that. he's probably going to be awful because he always had mediocre stuff and now has started getting hurt and fat. it will be surprising if he can even perform as a league-average 5th starter, so if that's not going to happen, the best thing will be for him to be horrendous in spring training and get released.

[Sammy Sofa]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

What's he saying?

 

I don't know.

 

I'm just forseeing that bald jerkoff leering like Christmas came early on Chicago Tribune Live.

[Larry Horse]

 

BECAUSE HE WAS A DISTRACTION IN THE MEDIA, TO HIS MANAGER AND HIS TEAMMATES. NOBODY LIKED HIM AND NOBODY WANTED HIM AROUND. IT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION THAT HE HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CUBS PERFECT, HAPPY, FUZZY, STUPID EXISTENCE. That's just how that [expletive] works.

 

And why is any of this true? Because the people in management positions completely fubared the handling of the situation. Suspension, bad mouthing, and just general stupidity in dealing with the situation is what caused it. Get that through your head. If Theo Epstein had the same issue, you wouldn't hear a peep out of him about how difficult the player made the situation. He didn't bad mouth Manny when he had to get rid of him. He may have overpaid to get rid of him, but he got something decent in return. The way the Cubs allowed the situation to play out is the reason that there was a perception the "he couldn't come back". If they kept their mouths shut and dealt with it like adults instead of 10 year olds, Milton might be a Cub still and maybe provided some much needed production next year.

 

Well done. :clapping:

 

The Cubs did a terrible job handling this situation. Bradley was a jackass but the Cubs were plain stupid in signing him to begin with.

 

fixed

[YearofDaCubs]

Maybe Rudy Jaramillo can help Silva.

:lol: :lol:

[champaignchris]

Question in all seriousness (and It will probably get lost amongst all of the angry posts)...

 

 

What will it take from Silva for this trade to turn into something similar to the Karros/Grudz for Hundley trade? While Karros and Grudz were both better players at the time of the trade, it was not a good looking deal at the time.

 

If Silva was able to muster 150 innings with a 4.25 era, 1.3 WHIP, 6K per 9, 3BB per 9 how would the trade look?

 

Also, are any of the predicitions sites out yet with their stuff?

 

there is just about a zero percent chance that carlos silva would strike out 6 men per 9 innings. as for the other numbers, he'd have to be better than he's been in at least 4 years, so good luck with that. he's probably going to be awful because he always had mediocre stuff and now has started getting hurt and fat. it will be surprising if he can even perform as a league-average 5th starter, so if that's not going to happen, the best thing will be for him to be horrendous in spring training and get released.

 

Over the last couple years to get a 1.3 WHIP, he would have had to walk negative people.

 

That's awesome!!!

[jersey cubs fan]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

What's he saying?

 

I don't know.

 

I'm just forseeing that bald jerkoff leering like Christmas came early on Chicago Tribune Live.

 

Punctuating his points while holding his thumb and forefinger together and extending his pinky.

[SouthSideRyan]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

Your urge goes away sometimes?

[Guest]

I wonder if this is just cause for Hendry's firing? I would sure hope so.

 

If this was the only bad thing he did, I'd probably say no. The collective body of work is definitely grounds for firing. In fact, if he hasn't earned that privilege at this point, I have to wonder just what every GM before him did to get fired, because at this point, Hendry is not fit for duty. And I'm quite certain that many were fired for much less.

 

This offseason is an absolute disaster. Hendry would have been wise to hang on to Bradley in 2010, that way he could use him as his scapegoat once again. Instead, Bradley won't be here and who will we pin this blame on this time?

[jersey cubs fan]

I have the random urge to punch Dave Kaplan in the throat right now.

 

Your urge goes away sometimes?

 

He defines smarmy.

[Tim M]

I can almost see Kaplan advocating signing Podsednik to replace Bradley.

[YearofDaCubs]

I wonder if this is just cause for Hendry's firing? I would sure hope so.

 

If this was the only bad thing he did, I'd probably say no. The collective body of work is definitely grounds for firing. In fact, if he hasn't earned that privilege at this point, I have to wonder just what every GM before him did to get fired, because at this point, Hendry is not fit for duty. And I'm quite certain that many were fired for much less.

 

This offseason is an absolute disaster. Hendry would have been wise to hang on to Bradley in 2010, that way he could use him as his scapegoat once again. Instead, Bradley won't be here and who will we pin this blame on this time?

We've had at least 3 off-seasons of absolute disaster during Hendry's tenure. Enough is enough. Somebody needs to fire him.

[Prizefight]

I can almost see Kaplan advocating signing Podsednik to replace Bradley.

 

 

If he does that, I will join in the campaign for wanting to punch him in the throat

[davearm2]

There's no line of behavior that a player could cross that would make having him back out of the question? That can't be right.

 

Sure, if he killed somebody, or raped a chick or something like that I would strongly advise not bringing him back to the team.

Why that's not going to make his teammates hit any worse or forget how to catch the ball etc etc so who cares what he does off the field.

 

Right?

[jersey cubs fan]

There's no line of behavior that a player could cross that would make having him back out of the question? That can't be right.

 

Sure, if he killed somebody, or raped a chick or something like that I would strongly advise not bringing him back to the team.

Why that's not going to make his teammates hit any worse or forget how to catch the ball etc etc so who cares what he does off the field.

 

Right?

 

Depends on who he killed or what method he used. But regardless, those are meaningful offenses. Being a dick is not.

[inari]

There's no line of behavior that a player could cross that would make having him back out of the question? That can't be right.

 

Sure, if he killed somebody, or raped a chick or something like that I would strongly advise not bringing him back to the team.

Why that's not going to make his teammates hit any worse or forget how to catch the ball etc etc so who cares what he does off the field.

 

Right?

 

Intentionally obtuse FTW

[davearm2]

There's no line of behavior that a player could cross that would make having him back out of the question? That can't be right.

 

Sure, if he killed somebody, or raped a chick or something like that I would strongly advise not bringing him back to the team.

Why that's not going to make his teammates hit any worse or forget how to catch the ball etc etc so who cares what he does off the field.

 

Right?

 

Depends on who he killed or what method he used. But regardless, those are meaningful offenses. Being a dick is not.

Meaningful how? I mean in a baseball production, winning and losing games sense.