Re: Rosenthal: Multiple teams after Bradley

[Tyrant]

 

I wonder if the Braves would be interested in Bradley, Fox, and prospect for Vasquez.

 

Maybe if that prospect's name was Starosh Vitterstro.

[Backtobanks]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

It would be interesting to see if Jaramillo can help him reach his full potential. At 25 years old and with some success at the ML level, he is a tempting target. If he reaches his potential, it could open up trade discussions about Fukudome next year.

[Tyrant]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

[Backtobanks]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

 

That quote belongs to West Side Rooter.

[erik316wttn]

Pass on Hermida, please.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

 

That quote belongs to West Side Rooter.

 

While Im not a big fan of Hermida, hes still young enough that maybe Jarmillo can help him finally reach his potential, plus hes one of those guys Hendry has had his eye on for a few years, and now that he'll probably be available for next to nothing, I can see Hendry making the move. If Bradley absilutely has to go, and we dont have what it takes to aquire someone like Holliday, Bay, or Hawpe, I guess Hermida is a low risk move that could potentially pay off, and if it doesnt, we can just rotate him, Fox, Hoffpauir, Fuld, and Colvin(whichever are on the team) through the outfield. Its not the best plan, but our hands are kind of tied after last offseasons debacle.

[shnsajax]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

 

That quote belongs to West Side Rooter.

 

While Im not a big fan of Hermida, hes still young enough that maybe Jarmillo can help him finally reach his potential, plus hes one of those guys Hendry has had his eye on for a few years, and now that he'll probably be available for next to nothing, I can see Hendry making the move. If Bradley absilutely has to go, and we dont have what it takes to aquire someone like Holliday, Bay, or Hawpe, I guess Hermida is a low risk move that could potentially pay off, and if it doesnt, we can just rotate him, Fox, Hoffpauir, Fuld, and Colvin(whichever are on the team) through the outfield. Its not the best plan, but our hands are kind of tied after last offseasons debacle.

 

Given the lack of positions we can actually upgrade this offseason, Hermida should not be an option. Wherever we change needs to be a legit replacement.

[KingCubsFan]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

 

That quote belongs to West Side Rooter.

 

While Im not a big fan of Hermida, hes still young enough that maybe Jarmillo can help him finally reach his potential, plus hes one of those guys Hendry has had his eye on for a few years, and now that he'll probably be available for next to nothing, I can see Hendry making the move. If Bradley absilutely has to go, and we dont have what it takes to aquire someone like Holliday, Bay, or Hawpe, I guess Hermida is a low risk move that could potentially pay off, and if it doesnt, we can just rotate him, Fox, Hoffpauir, Fuld, and Colvin(whichever are on the team) through the outfield. Its not the best plan, but our hands are kind of tied after last offseasons debacle.

 

Given the lack of positions we can actually upgrade this offseason, Hermida should not be an option. Wherever we change needs to be a legit replacement.

Why should we keep throwing money at veterans in the free agent market? We're not paying Rudy Jamarillo 800K to watch Aramis hit doubles, we're paying him to help turn around players with potential like Soto, Hermida or Alex Gordon. We should take a page from the White Sox and start getting players like Hermida (former top prospects/first round picks who failed with thier old teams) to see if we have anything for virtually no cost.

[biittner77]

Why should we keep throwing money at veterans in the free agent market? We're not paying Rudy Jamarillo 800K to watch Aramis hit doubles, we're paying him to help turn around players with potential like Soto, Hermida or Alex Gordon. We should take a page from the White Sox and start getting players like Hermida (former top prospects/first round picks who failed with thier old teams) to see if we have anything for virtually no cost.

 

It's true that Hermida would be a low cost opportunity. The concern is that, looking at his MLB stats, he has been consistently mediocre with the exception of 2007 where he had about a 35 point spike in babip. Either he got lucky that one year or he's been relatively unlucky the last 2 seasons.

 

If the Cubs can make a substantial upgrade at 2nd base I think they could probably take a chance on Hermida and be ok. If they aren't paying him a lot of money he'd be easy to replace later on.

[Wheelimus]

I'll be shocked if we do anything at 2B. I'm figuring that Baker showed enough to wind up with the job next year.

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

 

Cubs Rumors: Hendry, Bradley, Iwamura

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 3 at 9:47am CST]Cubs GM Jim Hendry told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he doesn't feel like he's "on the clock" this year, even though new owners are taking over and the Cubs are coming off a disappointing season. Instead, Hendry says he's focused on building a strong team for 2010.

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

 

The club's direction depends on its ability to move Milton Bradley and the $21MM remaining on his contract. Sullivan speculates on a possible trade that would send Bradley to the Rays for Akinori Iwamura and Pat Burrell.

 

I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Iwamura would be over Baker. He may be faster, but his career averages are 14 SB with 7 CS. He has no power and would probably make around $4 million. The Tribune speculated that the Cubs might only have to send $3-4 million in a trade for Burrell and Iwamura. They also speculated that the Cubs might flip Burrell to another team. Again, I'm not sure this deal makes sense to me because it's going to cost money to flip Burrell (which negates the "savings") and Iwamura doesn't seem to be an upgrade over Baker. Of course there is a possibility that Burrell, Iwamura, and/or Baker would be part of another deal to acquire the OF or speedy leadoff man they really want.

[big_shooter17]

similar players through age 29 per BR:

 

6. Aaron Miles

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/i/iwamuak01.shtml

[Sever82]

http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2009/11/rays-working-on-iwamura-deal.html

 

From this article and MLBTraderumors.. you can forget about Iwamura coming to the cubs in a bradley deal. I wonder who that team is, my guess would be the Cardinals, not sure why but i have a feeling.

[shnsajax]

I dont know how it will go down, but I have a very strong feeling that Hermida opens 2010 as our starting right fielder.

 

Oh good, more offseason talk about acquiring Jeremy Hermida.

 

That quote belongs to West Side Rooter.

 

While Im not a big fan of Hermida, hes still young enough that maybe Jarmillo can help him finally reach his potential, plus hes one of those guys Hendry has had his eye on for a few years, and now that he'll probably be available for next to nothing, I can see Hendry making the move. If Bradley absilutely has to go, and we dont have what it takes to aquire someone like Holliday, Bay, or Hawpe, I guess Hermida is a low risk move that could potentially pay off, and if it doesnt, we can just rotate him, Fox, Hoffpauir, Fuld, and Colvin(whichever are on the team) through the outfield. Its not the best plan, but our hands are kind of tied after last offseasons debacle.

 

Given the lack of positions we can actually upgrade this offseason, Hermida should not be an option. Wherever we change needs to be a legit replacement.

Why should we keep throwing money at veterans in the free agent market? We're not paying Rudy Jamarillo 800K to watch Aramis hit doubles, we're paying him to help turn around players with potential like Soto, Hermida or Alex Gordon. We should take a page from the White Sox and start getting players like Hermida (former top prospects/first round picks who failed with thier old teams) to see if we have anything for virtually no cost.

 

Thats great for a team hoping to contend next season with no real expectations. Getting them hoping that they can rebound is also different than planning on them to be a starter this offseason. While I have no problem in that method you are putting a lot of eggs in one basket. I'm not saying to sign veterans but more so players who have a some continued history of production. The success rate in that is not real high, so we will be needing bigger years from everyone who is returning.

 

Your paying Jamarillo for the entire offense, Aramis, Lee, Soto, etc. One player is not going to make or break us, the whole is what gave us the best offense in baseball two years ago.

[Guest]

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

Wha, wha, what?

 

Somanonom beach.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

Wha, wha, what?

 

Somanonom beach.

 

Lou has said Soriano won't be there, he's also said he likes Fukudome near the top, but maybe not leadoff. And he wants more team speed. Yeah, I think they are looking at speedy leadoff again. Not good hitter maybe, but stereotypical leadoff hitter.

[Halman]

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

Wha, wha, what?

 

Somanonom beach.

 

Hopefully it means Upton or Crawford and not Starlin Castro or Sam Fuld.

[Halman]

similar players through age 29 per BR:

 

6. Aaron Miles

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/i/iwamuak01.shtml

 

and that's silly.

 

Say what you say about Iwamura he's been 90-100 OPS+ performer in the big his entire career.

 

Outside of a cup of coffee season in 2003 Miles has once been in that range. And by and large has been a 70-75 OPS+ guy.

[Cubswin11]

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

Wha, wha, what?

 

Somanonom beach.

 

Lou has said Soriano won't be there, he's also said he likes Fukudome near the top, but maybe not leadoff. And he wants more team speed. Yeah, I think they are looking at speedy leadoff again. Not good hitter maybe, but stereotypical leadoff hitter.

 

Some guys off the top of my head that I could see us going after (Trade/FA) are.

Most Likely:

Nyjer Morgan

Fred Lewis

Coco Crisp (Way down on my list)

Orlando Hudson

Chris Young

 

5 Way Out There Possibilities:

Brian Roberts

Ichiro

Sizemore

Crawford

Granderson

[Halman]

 

The Cubs are working on re-signing John Grabow and they'd also like to acquire a speedy leadoff hitter.

Wha, wha, what?

 

Somanonom beach.

 

Lou has said Soriano won't be there, he's also said he likes Fukudome near the top, but maybe not leadoff. And he wants more team speed. Yeah, I think they are looking at speedy leadoff again. Not good hitter maybe, but stereotypical leadoff hitter.

 

Some guys off the top of my head that I could see us going after (Trade/FA) are.

Most Likely:

Nyjer Morgan

Fred Lewis

Coco Crisp (Way down on my list)

Orlando Hudson

Chris Young

 

DO NOT WANT

[Rob]

What's wrong with Crisp or Hudson? Provided either is cheap enough, they'd be excellent additions.

 

Likewise, I'd love to get my hands on Chris Young and see if he can't develop a bit more... depending on the cost, of course.

[Shilzzz]

hudson i could live with. crisp is awful

[Halman]

What's wrong with Crisp or Hudson? Provided either is cheap enough, they'd be excellent additions.

 

Likewise, I'd love to get my hands on Chris Young and see if he can't develop a bit more... depending on the cost, of course.

 

Crisp hasn't been any good since testing came to baseball.

 

and well Hudson he's going to be too expensive for a middle infielder who will be 32 on opening day.

[davell]

I could see us going after Rajai Davis. It'll be his first year of arbitration anyway. Of course, going after a leadoff hitter that plays somewhere in the OF would mean we'd be going after a power hitter at 2B, I guess? Because it looks like a middle of the order hitter and a speedy leadoff type appear to be our offseason goals.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Crisp hasn't been any good since testing came to baseball.

 

Crisp's ineffectiveness has a lot more to do with him being hurt than coinciding with drug testing.