NFL Week 1 (Sept. 10th-14th)

[OleMissCub]

Polamalu has a sprained MCL. Out 3 to 6 weeks. Will almost definitely miss the Bears game.

 

Madden curse?

[jersey cubs fan]

First game of the year and I already have to listen to morons whine about how unfair overtime rules are, completely ignoring the fact that the losing team already had 60 minutes to come away with the win.

 

Shut up already. Games aren't decided by a coin flip.

[Banedon]

Polamalu has a sprained MCL. Out 3 to 6 weeks. Will almost definitely miss the Bears game.

 

Madden curse?

 

Larry Fitzgerald should be terrified.

[RedFlash]

I still don't get how the best professional league in this country has an archaic overtime system to decide games.

 

Great game, though.

 

Completely agree ... the overtime system heavily favors the team that won the coin toss. It's not fair.

 

This isn't college, thisn't is high school, this is the NFL. The Titans had 60 minutes to win the game and they didn't. Just because they didn't win the coin toss, or stop the Steelers when the needed too doesnt mean it's unfair. I truly doubt you'll hear any Titan player complain about th OT rules being unfair. The Titans didn't stop the Steelers in OT and that is ON them, an not the OT rules.

 

The OT rules are fine.

[Banedon]

I still don't get how the best professional league in this country has an archaic overtime system to decide games.

 

Great game, though.

 

Completely agree ... the overtime system heavily favors the team that won the coin toss. It's not fair.

 

This isn't college, thisn't is high school, this is the NFL. The Titans had 60 minutes to win the game and they didn't. Just because they didn't win the coin toss, or stop the Steelers when the needed too doesnt mean it's unfair. I truly doubt you'll hear any Titan player complain about th OT rules being unfair. The Titans didn't stop the Steelers in OT and that is ON them, an not the OT rules.

 

The OT rules are fine.

 

Let me ask you this. Are you denying that the coin toss is a factor in determining the winner?

[jersey cubs fan]

I still don't get how the best professional league in this country has an archaic overtime system to decide games.

 

Great game, though.

 

Completely agree ... the overtime system heavily favors the team that won the coin toss. It's not fair.

 

This isn't college, thisn't is high school, this is the NFL. The Titans had 60 minutes to win the game and they didn't. Just because they didn't win the coin toss, or stop the Steelers when the needed too doesnt mean it's unfair. I truly doubt you'll hear any Titan player complain about th OT rules being unfair. The Titans didn't stop the Steelers in OT and that is ON them, an not the OT rules.

 

The OT rules are fine.

 

Let me ask you this. Are you denying that the coin toss is a factor in determining the winner?

 

The opening coin toss is a factor in determing the winner of any game.

 

This is a very stupid topic that needs to stop being discussed. The people who cry about OT rules every damn time a game goes to OT refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that both teams had 60 minutes to score more than their opponent and that none of their proposals are realistic or better. Football is a long freaking game. The 1:00 games end after 4, the night time games end after midnight on the east coast. Insisting on both teams touching the ball is freaking stupid. They had their chance. Nobody is getting screwed over, nobody is being robbed of anything.

[cbbryan]

I still don't get how the best professional league in this country has an archaic overtime system to decide games.

 

Great game, though.

 

Completely agree ... the overtime system heavily favors the team that won the coin toss. It's not fair.

 

This isn't college, thisn't is high school, this is the NFL. The Titans had 60 minutes to win the game and they didn't. Just because they didn't win the coin toss, or stop the Steelers when the needed too doesnt mean it's unfair. I truly doubt you'll hear any Titan player complain about th OT rules being unfair. The Titans didn't stop the Steelers in OT and that is ON them, an not the OT rules.

 

The OT rules are fine.

 

Let me ask you this. Are you denying that the coin toss is a factor in determining the winner?

 

The opening coin toss is a factor in determing the winner of any game.

 

This is a very stupid topic that needs to stop being discussed. The people who cry about OT rules every damn time a game goes to OT refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that both teams had 60 minutes to score more than their opponent and that none of their proposals are realistic or better. Football is a long freaking game. The 1:00 games end after 4, the night time games end after midnight on the east coast. Insisting on both teams touching the ball is freaking stupid. They had their chance. Nobody is getting screwed over, nobody is being robbed of anything.

 

And in the case last night, the Titans should have beaten them but didn't come through when they needed to. OT coin flip should have never taken place.

[Careless]

The opening coin toss is a factor in determing the winner of any game.

 

This is a very stupid topic that needs to stop being discussed. The people who cry about OT rules every damn time a game goes to OT refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that both teams had 60 minutes to score more than their opponent and that none of their proposals are realistic or better. Football is a long freaking game. The 1:00 games end after 4, the night time games end after midnight on the east coast. Insisting on both teams touching the ball is freaking stupid. They had their chance. Nobody is getting screwed over, nobody is being robbed of anything.

One coin toss has a minuscule effect on the game. One does not. People don't talk about the one and they talk about the other. Comparing the two is silly.

 

Once the opening coin toss winner starts winning 60% of the games, that'll be a reasonable comparison

[jersey cubs fan]

The opening coin toss is a factor in determing the winner of any game.

 

This is a very stupid topic that needs to stop being discussed. The people who cry about OT rules every damn time a game goes to OT refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that both teams had 60 minutes to score more than their opponent and that none of their proposals are realistic or better. Football is a long freaking game. The 1:00 games end after 4, the night time games end after midnight on the east coast. Insisting on both teams touching the ball is freaking stupid. They had their chance. Nobody is getting screwed over, nobody is being robbed of anything.

One coin toss has a minuscule effect on the game. One does not. People don't talk about the one and they talk about the other. Comparing the two is silly.

 

Once the opening coin toss winner starts winning 60% of the games, that'll be a reasonable comparison

 

It's unreasonable to whine about the coin toss. It's unreasonable, stupid, idiotic, waste of time, ridiculous, etc, etc.

 

THEY HAD 60 FREAKING MINUTES.

 

OT coin flip winners don't win 60% of the games because the vast majority of games are one in regulation when you are supposed to win the damn game instead of playing for a tie and whining about how unfair life is that both teams didn't get to touch the ball.

[bukie]

The opening coin toss is a factor in determing the winner of any game.

 

This is a very stupid topic that needs to stop being discussed. The people who cry about OT rules every damn time a game goes to OT refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that both teams had 60 minutes to score more than their opponent and that none of their proposals are realistic or better. Football is a long freaking game. The 1:00 games end after 4, the night time games end after midnight on the east coast. Insisting on both teams touching the ball is freaking stupid. They had their chance. Nobody is getting screwed over, nobody is being robbed of anything.

One coin toss has a minuscule effect on the game. One does not. People don't talk about the one and they talk about the other. Comparing the two is silly.

 

Once the opening coin toss winner starts winning 60% of the games, that'll be a reasonable comparison

 

It's unreasonable to whine about the coin toss. It's unreasonable, stupid, idiotic, waste of time, ridiculous, etc, etc.

 

THEY HAD 60 FREAKING MINUTES.

 

OT coin flip winners don't win 60% of the games because the vast majority of games are one in regulation when you are supposed to win the damn game instead of playing for a tie and whining about how unfair life is that both teams didn't get to touch the ball.

Of course, both teams had 60 minutes to get it done and didn't. Why only penalize one of them?

[Banedon]

The winner of the opening coin toss only benefits for a half. The other team gets it made up to them in the other half. It's not comparable.

 

The OT coin toss is a significant advantage. If you want to have a sudden death OT, how about determining the team to get the ball at the beginning of OT in another way that isn't random? Maybe the team with the most total yards, or the most first downs during regulation gets the ball. Something like that. I'm just spitballing, but I don't care for the randomness of the way it currently works.

[jersey cubs fan]

The winner of the opening coin toss only benefits for a half. The other team gets it made up to them in the other half. It's not comparable.

 

The OT coin toss is a significant advantage. If you want to have a sudden death OT, how about determining the team to get the ball at the beginning of OT in another way that isn't random? Maybe the team with the most total yards, or the most first downs during regulation gets the ball. Something like that. I'm just spitballing, but I don't care for the randomness of the way it currently works.

 

What if you are a quick strike team that doesn't have long drives but scores quickly. Or what if you are a defense that isn't afraid to give up yardage because you play for the turnover. Seems unfair to those guys.

 

You didn't outscore your opponent in regulation but you still have a chance to win the game, consider yourself lucky regardless of the outcome of the coin flip.

[CubColtPacer]

The winner of the opening coin toss only benefits for a half. The other team gets it made up to them in the other half. It's not comparable.

 

The OT coin toss is a significant advantage. If you want to have a sudden death OT, how about determining the team to get the ball at the beginning of OT in another way that isn't random? Maybe the team with the most total yards, or the most first downs during regulation gets the ball. Something like that. I'm just spitballing, but I don't care for the randomness of the way it currently works.

 

What if you are a quick strike team that doesn't have long drives but scores quickly. Or what if you are a defense that isn't afraid to give up yardage because you play for the turnover. Seems unfair to those guys.

 

You didn't outscore your opponent in regulation but you still have a chance to win the game, consider yourself lucky regardless of the outcome of the coin flip.

 

So essentially your argument is that both teams have already failed in what they were supposed to do, so who cares if the OT system is unfair.

 

I just don't understand why football doesn't have a system that is like other sports. Most other sports plays an extra quarter of either the same length (baseball, hockey) or a different length (basketball, in some ways soccer).

 

Why doesn't football play 2 potential 7 minute quarters after the end of regulation? You still have around the same amount of football as a regular tie so the risk of injuries isn't any worse (14 extra possible minutes instead of 15 in the current system). The team who wins the coin toss at the start of OT gets the ball first. If they can take the full 7 minutes and then score, then good for them (plus each team would get 2 timeouts to help keep that from happening). But that is really difficult to do, so it's incredibly likely that both teams would get the ball. If the first OT ends with the game tied, then the other team gets the ball to start the second OT. If its tied after 2 OT's, the game ends in a tie (except for playoff games of course).

 

The problem with the current system is that one of the easiest ways to score is off of a kickoff because a team usually gets pretty good field position, and there's no incentive to go for a TD. It makes OT games incredibly anticlimactic while if you played extra short quarters you'd be replicating the most exciting part of a football game (the last few minutes of the 4th quarter).

[Banedon]

At least eliminate field goals in OT. Make them go for the endzone.

[jersey cubs fan]

So essentially your argument is that both teams have already failed in what they were supposed to do, so who cares if the OT system is unfair.

 

No, what I'm saying is all the whiny babies who cry about OT being unfair are completely ridiculous and they need to shut up. Nobody is being robbed of anything. It is fair. Everybody has the same chance, they had the same chance when they took the field that day (discounting HFA, weather conditions, health, etc) and they had the same change when regulation ended. If you lose in OT, too bad, you lost a football game. If you cry about losing in OT, you are an idiot.

[CubbieBum]

Just guarantee each team one possession. Its a simple and easy solution. It won't extend the length of the game that much and it makes it a lot more fair.

[Banedon]

So essentially your argument is that both teams have already failed in what they were supposed to do, so who cares if the OT system is unfair.

 

No, what I'm saying is all the whiny babies who cry about OT being unfair are completely ridiculous and they need to shut up. Nobody is being robbed of anything. It is fair. Everybody has the same chance, they had the same chance when they took the field that day (discounting HFA, weather conditions, health, etc) and they had the same change when regulation ended. If you lose in OT, too bad, you lost a football game. If you cry about losing in OT, you are an idiot.

 

Yeah, that's a poor argument. It's fair because you say so. BS. Yes, everyone had a fair chance in regulation, and nobody was able to get it done. OT is essentially it's own game. And someone is getting an unfair advantage. And there's no reason that it has to be that way. If there's a better way to do it, why not do it? What are you opposed to here?

[CubbieBum]

So essentially your argument is that both teams have already failed in what they were supposed to do, so who cares if the OT system is unfair.

 

No, what I'm saying is all the whiny babies who cry about OT being unfair are completely ridiculous and they need to shut up. Nobody is being robbed of anything. It is fair. Everybody has the same chance, they had the same chance when they took the field that day (discounting HFA, weather conditions, health, etc) and they had the same change when regulation ended. If you lose in OT, too bad, you lost a football game. If you cry about losing in OT, you are an idiot.

 

Settle down and stop calling everyone who disagrees with you an idiot.

[jersey cubs fan]

Just guarantee each team one possession. Its a simple and easy solution. It won't extend the length of the game that much and it makes it a lot more fair.

 

It already is fair and yes it absolutely would extend the game much. It's sudden death for a reason.

[jersey cubs fan]

So essentially your argument is that both teams have already failed in what they were supposed to do, so who cares if the OT system is unfair.

 

No, what I'm saying is all the whiny babies who cry about OT being unfair are completely ridiculous and they need to shut up. Nobody is being robbed of anything. It is fair. Everybody has the same chance, they had the same chance when they took the field that day (discounting HFA, weather conditions, health, etc) and they had the same change when regulation ended. If you lose in OT, too bad, you lost a football game. If you cry about losing in OT, you are an idiot.

 

Yeah, that's a poor argument. It's fair because you say so. BS. Yes, everyone had a fair chance in regulation, and nobody was able to get it done. OT is essentially it's own game. And someone is getting an unfair advantage. And there's no reason that it has to be that way. If there's a better way to do it, why not do it? What are you opposed to here?

 

Because nobody has a better option.

 

I'm opposed to all the over the top whining every time a game ends in OT. It's ridiculous. It is not unfair. Everybody had the same chance to win the game, and one team did while the other team didn't. Boo freaking hoo.

 

It's people trying to invent a problem where there isn't one.

 

College OT is it's own game. It's own made up game that is not football. NFL OT is pure sudden death end of game that's it.

[Sosa21MVP]

The team that loses the toss could try playing some defense. It works every now and then. :hello:

 

Not a big fan of the way college football handles OT currently. Kind of a Mickey Mouse way to end a game, I mean sure the occasional 6-7 OT thriller can be fun in a way but at the same time it is just a dumb way to decide a game IMO. I'd rather see college football play an extra quarter of real football. If the NFL adopted a similar approach, that is fine. I'd just prefer playing real football and having sudden death over giving both teams the ball in the red zone to start as part of some gimmick.

[SpongeWorthy]

By goony's logic it is actually impossible to construct an overtime system that is unfair because the preceding 60 minutes are played on the level.

 

So in that spirit, I propose scrapping the current system and replacing it with a "How far can your QB throw it?" contest because the Bears would be near unbeatable in OT.

[ISUCubsFan]

By goony's logic it is actually impossible to construct an overtime system that is unfair because the preceding 60 minutes are played on the level.

 

So in that spirit, I propose scrapping the current system and replacing it with a "How far can your QB throw it?" contest because the Bears would be near unbeatable in OT.

 

I veto this because the Dolphins would lose every OT game. Let's go with an XFL-style race for the ball instead. For a more serious proposal I like the bidding for field position idea the best, but the coaches would absolutely hate it.

[SpongeWorthy]

By goony's logic it is actually impossible to construct an overtime system that is unfair because the preceding 60 minutes are played on the level.

 

So in that spirit, I propose scrapping the current system and replacing it with a "How far can your QB throw it?" contest because the Bears would be near unbeatable in OT.

 

I veto this because the Dolphins would lose every OT game. Let's go with an XFL-style race for the ball instead. For a more serious proposal I like the bidding for field position idea the best, but the coaches would absolutely hate it.

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I could live with that. Hester's gotta be up there too. I think Ginn could probably beat him though. Chris Johnson as well.

[Flames24Rulz]

The team that loses the toss could try playing some defense. It works every now and then. :hello:

 

Not a big fan of the way college football handles OT currently. Kind of a Mickey Mouse way to end a game, I mean sure the occasional 6-7 OT thriller can be fun in a way but at the same time it is just a dumb way to decide a game IMO. I'd rather see college football play an extra quarter of real football. If the NFL adopted a similar approach, that is fine. I'd just prefer playing real football and having sudden death over giving both teams the ball in the red zone to start as part of some gimmick.

 

Why can't the NFL just adopt a rule where each team is guaranteed a possession that begins at their own 40 yard line?