Bradley "never comfortable" playing at Wrigley

[TruffleShuffle]

yikes, he's definitely trying to talk his way out of town.

 

yeah, hopefully management can sit down with him and get him to cool it for the rest of this disastrous season, and then next year things will be better. i certainly don't want him to make himself so hated in chicago with these comments that they're essentially forced to move him for scraps while eating a bunch of money.

 

the red sox dealt with manny ramirez for a long time... milton can't be a bigger asshat than manny.

[17 Seconds]

 

"All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home,"

 

There's that FIRE that this team needs so bad. Maybe we should keep this guy after all.

[TruffleShuffle]

Wait, so it would take a"magical world" for somebody to take on Bradley's contract without us eating salary? Then why are you acting like it would be so stupid to udmp off his contract?

 

Make up your mind. Is it a bad contract, or not?

 

it's not that bad as far as his production, but given his demeanor, relatively poor season (except for OBP) and injury history, he's a significant risk and nobody is going to take on his contract at full value.

[17 Seconds]

yikes, he's definitely trying to talk his way out of town.

 

yeah, hopefully management can sit down with him and get him to cool it for the rest of this disastrous season, and then next year things will be better. i certainly don't want him to make himself so hated in chicago with these comments that they're essentially forced to move him for scraps while eating a bunch of money.

 

the red sox dealt with manny ramirez for a long time... milton can't be a bigger asshat than manny.

 

Yeah but Manny is so good that you could put up with his nonsense. Milton is not remotely close to being the hitter Manny was with Boston.

 

I think this could definitely get ugly over the next month though. The more he says, the more he's going to get booed.

[imb]

I think the point is that you can live with Bradley's production for 10 million a season. It's not optimal, but if he's going to get on base 40% of the time, you can find him a spot. Hell, he's a perfect hitter for the 2-spot. Well, maybe not perfect, but he fits.

 

The problem is that Soriano is such a [expletive] black hole. The combination of passable Milton Bradley and awful Soriano, making a combined 28 million a year, is too much to overcome. And you can't move Soriano, so the only way to improve the OF short of Soriano remembering how to hit/getting healthy is to move Bradley and try to get lucky with an OF that can hit for power.

 

yeah plus aramis got hurt with no reasonable backup to be found, fontenot tanked and soto either sucked or was hurt. that's a lot of bad production from a number of positions and we don't have a monster like pujols to carry the lineup.

 

It was a pretty awful cocktail of obvious things (fontenot, lack of health/depth at corner IF/OF positions) going wrong, and not so obvious things (Harden being healthy-ish but no good for so long, Marmol's wildness, Soriano falling apart, Soto sucking, etc..) going wrong.

 

I'm really ready for this year to be over with.

[17 Seconds]

Wait, so it would take a"magical world" for somebody to take on Bradley's contract without us eating salary? Then why are you acting like it would be so stupid to udmp off his contract?

 

Make up your mind. Is it a bad contract, or not?

 

it's not that bad as far as his production, but given his demeanor, relatively poor season (except for OBP) and injury history, he's a significant risk and nobody is going to take on his contract at full value.

 

And they're wrong to not want to take that on?

[Derwood]

not only was Ramirez hurt, but Lou let Fontenot suck it up over there for weeks before letting Fox have a shot.

[Flames24Rulz]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4423669

 

These quotes are from before Wednesday's game, Bradley elaborated on his Tuesday night comments about the "hatred" he feels at Wrigley.

 

"I'm talking about hatred, period. I'm talking about when I go to eat at a restaurant. I've got to listen to the waiters badmouthing me at another table, sitting in a restaurant. That's what I'm talking about. Everything."

 

"All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home,"

For God's sake, Milton, just shut the hell up for a few days, will you?

 

Well let's keep things in perspective. You and I both know he's not going up to a podium and just saying this stuff. Guys like Sullivan and Wittmeyer are trying to get everything they can out of him and they realize he does say whatever is on his mind, especially when he's agitated.

 

I can't really defend that last quote though. That's not good.

[17 Seconds]

I think the point is that you can live with Bradley's production for 10 million a season. It's not optimal, but if he's going to get on base 40% of the time, you can find him a spot. Hell, he's a perfect hitter for the 2-spot. Well, maybe not perfect, but he fits.

 

The problem is that Soriano is such a [expletive] black hole. The combination of passable Milton Bradley and awful Soriano, making a combined 28 million a year, is too much to overcome. And you can't move Soriano, so the only way to improve the OF short of Soriano remembering how to hit/getting healthy is to move Bradley and try to get lucky with an OF that can hit for power.

 

yeah plus aramis got hurt with no reasonable backup to be found, fontenot tanked and soto either sucked or was hurt. that's a lot of bad production from a number of positions and we don't have a monster like pujols to carry the lineup.

 

It was a pretty awful cocktail of obvious things (fontenot, lack of health/depth at corner IF/OF positions) going wrong, and not so obvious things (Harden being healthy-ish but no good for so long, Marmol's wildness, Soriano falling apart, Soto sucking, etc..) going wrong.

 

I'm really ready for this year to be over with.

 

oh man, i almost forgot how bad fontenot was this year and how they were counting on him. whoops.

 

bradley

miles

dempster

gregg

heilman

fontenot

 

those were the guys that hendry basically banked on last offseason (meaning guys he either signed, traded for, or gave starting jobs to to fre up payroll).

 

man, crash and burn. 2 slightly above average seasons and 4 huge failures

[Flames24Rulz]

I think the point is that you can live with Bradley's production for 10 million a season. It's not optimal, but if he's going to get on base 40% of the time, you can find him a spot. Hell, he's a perfect hitter for the 2-spot. Well, maybe not perfect, but he fits.

 

The problem is that Soriano is such a [expletive] black hole. The combination of passable Milton Bradley and awful Soriano, making a combined 28 million a year, is too much to overcome. And you can't move Soriano, so the only way to improve the OF short of Soriano remembering how to hit/getting healthy is to move Bradley and try to get lucky with an OF that can hit for power.

 

yeah plus aramis got hurt with no reasonable backup to be found, fontenot tanked and soto either sucked or was hurt. that's a lot of bad production from a number of positions and we don't have a monster like pujols to carry the lineup.

 

It was a pretty awful cocktail of obvious things (fontenot, lack of health/depth at corner IF/OF positions) going wrong, and not so obvious things (Harden being healthy-ish but no good for so long, Marmol's wildness, Soriano falling apart, Soto sucking, etc..) going wrong.

 

I'm really ready for this year to be over with.

 

I'm simply amazed we were able to stay afloat for as long as we did and that we were right with the Cards at the beginning of this month, despite all the problems we've had all season with the majority of this team.

 

This last month has been absolute hell.

[TruffleShuffle]

Wait, so it would take a"magical world" for somebody to take on Bradley's contract without us eating salary? Then why are you acting like it would be so stupid to udmp off his contract?

 

Make up your mind. Is it a bad contract, or not?

 

it's not that bad as far as his production, but given his demeanor, relatively poor season (except for OBP) and injury history, he's a significant risk and nobody is going to take on his contract at full value.

 

And they're wrong to not want to take that on?

 

what are you talking about? who said it was wrong for nobody to want milton's contract?

[Halman]

I hope they trade Bradley to the O's for Brian Roberts and bring back derosa to play RF. WHICH THEY SHOULD'VE DONE LAST YEAR

 

:roll:

[TruffleShuffle]

Well let's keep things in perspective. You and I both know he's not going up to a podium and just saying this stuff. Guys like Sullivan and Wittmeyer are trying to get everything they can out of him and they realize he does say whatever is on his mind, especially when he's agitated.

 

I can't really defend that last quote though. That's not good.

 

the thing i don't understand about him is that he seems to have no concept of what it's like to be a public figure and professional athlete. don't want people saying you've had a shitty year when you go out to dinner? then either play better, order a pizza, or sign a small contract with the marlins and you'll have that peace and quiet. or become an accountant, nobody will boo you when you're out at dinner if you screw up, except if you run into one of your customers. but you signed a big contract with a team in the third-largest city in america; that team has a very passionate and large fan base and when you play poorly, you're going to hear about it. almost every star in the game seems to know how to tune out the bad stuff; milton just lets it eat at him more and more.

[17 Seconds]

Wait, so it would take a"magical world" for somebody to take on Bradley's contract without us eating salary? Then why are you acting like it would be so stupid to udmp off his contract?

 

Make up your mind. Is it a bad contract, or not?

 

it's not that bad as far as his production, but given his demeanor, relatively poor season (except for OBP) and injury history, he's a significant risk and nobody is going to take on his contract at full value.

 

And they're wrong to not want to take that on?

 

what are you talking about? who said it was wrong for nobody to want milton's contract?

 

just saying that you seem to think it would be stupid for the cubs to rid themselves of bradley and his contract, but then you also say it would be nearly impossible to do it.

 

if it's a contract that you think is worth keeping, why wouldn't any other teams think the same thing?

[TruffleShuffle]

just saying that you seem to think it would be stupid for the cubs to rid themselves of bradley and his contract, but then you also say it would be nearly impossible to do it.

 

if it's a contract that you think is worth keeping, why wouldn't any other teams think the same thing?

 

because the cubs are the ones already holding the risk. other teams have the option of taking on that risk at $10M per year for 2 years, or leaving it. they'd be wise to leave it since he's often injured and often an a-hole.

 

the cubs would be wise to keep him because he does give fairly good production when he plays, even this year, and if you trade him you're going to have to eat some money and get basically nothing in return, then either sign another expensive guy (which isn't likely to happen) or do your trade idea. and unless you really find a gem, you're not going to take a dump in a box and get an affordable corner outfielder with bradley-like production in return.

[Flames24Rulz]

Well let's keep things in perspective. You and I both know he's not going up to a podium and just saying this stuff. Guys like Sullivan and Wittmeyer are trying to get everything they can out of him and they realize he does say whatever is on his mind, especially when he's agitated.

 

I can't really defend that last quote though. That's not good.

 

the thing i don't understand about him is that he seems to have no concept of what it's like to be a public figure and professional athlete. don't want people saying you've had a [expletive] year when you go out to dinner? then either play better, order a pizza, or sign a small contract with the marlins and you'll have that peace and quiet. or become an accountant, nobody will boo you when you're out at dinner if you screw up, except if you run into one of your customers. but you signed a big contract with a team in the third-largest city in america; that team has a very passionate and large fan base and when you play poorly, you're going to hear about it. almost every star in the game seems to know how to tune out the bad stuff; milton just lets it eat at him more and more.

 

Agreed but you have to be a pretty big douche to say something negative to a guy while he's eating dinner.

[17 Seconds]

just saying that you seem to think it would be stupid for the cubs to rid themselves of bradley and his contract, but then you also say it would be nearly impossible to do it.

 

if it's a contract that you think is worth keeping, why wouldn't any other teams think the same thing?

 

because the cubs are the ones already holding the risk. other teams have the option of taking on that risk at $10M per year for 2 years, or leaving it. they'd be wise to leave it since he's often injured and often an a-hole.

 

 

lol what? your argument makes no sense whatsoever. what does it matter who is "holding the risk" right now? when the offseason arrives, you're talking about a player at 2/20. that 2/20 contract is exactly the same to the cubs as it is to any other team.

 

it's milton bradley at 2/20, period. if it would be "wise to leave it since he's often injured and often an a-hole", then that goes for the cubs too.

Edited August 27, 2009 by 17 Seconds

[SouthSideRyan]

Wait, so it would take a"magical world" for somebody to take on Bradley's contract without us eating salary? Then why are you acting like it would be so stupid to udmp off his contract?

 

Make up your mind. Is it a bad contract, or not?

 

it's not that bad as far as his production, but given his demeanor, relatively poor season (except for OBP) and injury history, he's a significant risk and nobody is going to take on his contract at full value.

 

And they're wrong to not want to take that on?

 

what are you talking about? who said it was wrong for nobody to want milton's contract?

 

just saying that you seem to think it would be stupid for the cubs to rid themselves of bradley and his contract, but then you also say it would be nearly impossible to do it.

 

if it's a contract that you think is worth keeping, why wouldn't any other teams think the same thing?

 

Because we all realize that you can't just dump his contract. You waver back and forth between pretending we can just dump his contract and thinking it's a good idea to eat a chunk and still dump him. I have no clue what you're even talking about.

 

Loved the [expletive] eating grin after his postseason interview though.

[JonnyRed]

Anyone want to take up a collection to pay the Cubs to dump this bum? Seriously, it's bad enough that the moron hasn't come close to actually earning his salary, but now he has the nerve to call Cubs fans idiots?

 

And to think we'd be enjoying an all-star season from Raul Ibanez if Hendry had just listened to Lou!

[Flames24Rulz]

Anyone want to take up a collection to pay the Cubs to dump this bum? Seriously, it's bad enough that the moron hasn't come close to actually earning his salary, but now he has the nerve to call Cubs fans idiots?

 

And to think we'd be enjoying an all-star season from Raul Ibanez if Hendry had just listened to Lou!

 

The ones that boo him at Wrigley are indeed idiots.

[17 Seconds]

Because we all realize that you can't just dump his contract.

 

If that's your opinion, fine, and it may very well be correct. I'm just saying that some of the people who are claiming that his contract is untradeable are also saying it would be stupid to move it if the opportunity presented itself. It's like "oh well he's still productive enough to want to keep that contract.....but only if you're the Cubs. No way another team would take that on. It's good for the Cubs though."

 

You think it's untradeable? Fine. Just don't say that and then in the next sentence say how it makes sense for the Cubs to keep the contract. It doesn't go both ways. Either it's a desirable contract or it's not.

 

That's what doesn't make sense.

 

You waver back and forth between pretending we can just dump his contract and thinking it's a good idea to eat a chunk and still dump him.

 

I literally suggested the "we could eat part of it" thing ONCE, and I was only half serious about it in the first place. I don't really see this wavering that you talk about. I also never pretended that we could dump him. I simply expressed that I'd like to, and then questioned the people who blasted me for wanting to get rid of it.

Edited August 27, 2009 by 17 Seconds

[SouthSideRyan]

Anyone want to take up a collection to pay the Cubs to dump this bum? Seriously, it's bad enough that the moron hasn't come close to actually earning his salary, but now he has the nerve to call Cubs fans idiots?

 

And to think we'd be enjoying an all-star season from Raul Ibanez if Hendry had just listened to Lou!

 

Cubs fans are idiots.

 

Ibanez is a worse defender than Bradley and has been terrible lately. Bradley's closing fast.

[Old Style]

So it took him until 8/26 to play the race card? I would have put the odds closer to 5/26.

[17 Seconds]

So it took him until 8/26 to play the race card? I would have put the odds closer to 5/26.

 

What were his postgame comments tonight?

[SouthSideRyan]

So it took him until 8/26 to play the race card? I would have put the odds closer to 5/26.

 

Did I miss something?

 

Or does black man getting uppity automatically qualify as race card?