8/5 Cubs (Harden) @ DB's Reds (Lehr) 6:10pm CSN, XM-186

[Little Slide Rooter]

Sweet God, has Miles even played SS yet this year?

 

Just throw him right into the fire, Lou.

 

thats the best suggestion Ive heard all day. :thumbsup:

[Outshined_One]

I want Aaron Miles to read Desert Solitaire and decide that Edward Abbey has it right. That way, he'll become a Park Ranger in Arches National Park, living out of a metal trailer in the middle of some forsaken desert for the rest of his life.

 

That or he decides he misses the Cardinals so much that he breaches his contract with the Cubs in order to sign up with LaRussa's bunch and hit leadoff every day.

[mopapa]

Has anyone heard if Theriot's just out for a day of rest, or because of the HBP? Or a little of both?

[jersey cubs fan]

Has anyone heard if Theriot's just out for a day of rest, or because of the HBP? Or a little of both?

 

Probably mostly the bruise, but they wanted to give him rest and that was cut short the other day.

[CubColtPacer]

This "whoever plays shortstop hits second, even though he has what's probably a negative OBP" crap needs to stop.

 

I figured this would be the likely lineup if Theriot was out. I don't think it's the fact that he's playing SS.

 

It's just that for 3 years straight Lou has shown that the 2 spot is one of the least important in his lineup. It tends to go to a non-power hitter that is better than the non-power hitter in the 8 spot.

 

If Soto had been in the lineup tonight, Miles would have been batting 8th (and probably Fontenot 2nd). With Hill in the 8th spot, Lou would rather have Fontenot's power in the 7th spot which leaves Miles for 2nd.

 

I don't agree with it at all (IMO, the 2nd spot is a lot more important than the 6th/7th spots) but Lou has consistently shown that he cares more about the 6th and many times 7th spots.

 

You could be right, but Lou has had the tendency to go CF-SS-1B-3B-RF-LF-2B-C-P ever since Soriano was moved to the 6 spot

 

That's only been a pattern after the All-star break (specifically, the 2nd game after the break and past that). It's been a pretty good predictive pattern for 15-16 games now which will change on Friday as soon as Soto gets back.

 

That makes sense when you never change catchers and most of your hitters are sort of the same (Ramirez and Fox are expected to do the same sorts of things, as are Johnson and Fukudome, as are Bradley and Hoffpauir, as are Fontenot and Baker). The only time where that hasn't been the case is at SS, which is where the two egregious examples have happened recently (Blanco 2nd and now Miles 2nd in the order). Plus Johnson hitting leadoff against a right-hander to push Fukudome into the middle of the order, which was the same sort of issue as I said before (not enough power in the middle that night with Soto gone and to Lou the middle of the order being right is more important than the top or the bottom)

 

Lou hasn't stuck all the time to that even lately though. When Lee missed a game Fox replaced him and hit 4th.

[E.J.]

Miles not only starting (he shouldn't even be on the team) but batting 2nd. The Cubs make me angry.

[ctcf]

LINEUP

Fukudome

Miles

Lee

Ramirez

Bradley

Soriano

Fontenot

Hill

Harden

 

Seriously Lou?

[MWV]

[expletive]. I had almost convinced myself that Miles had never been on this team. Once again, the Cubs rudely shatter my illusions...

[A-Cal]

yay!

 

our pudgy white little turtle is back and batting second!

 

oh my!

 

:-))

[PrimeTime]

I just seen the lineup...Holy [expletive], what the hell is this? Miles is at SS batting second when he was batting .200 at Triple A?? Then you send Stevens down who was actually good up here and has been better than most of the pen...WTF is wrong with this orginazation? And Shark is still up? What a joke

[Derwood]

Shortstops bat second, Dude

[BigSlick]

Miles-Fontenot-Hill makes its 3 auto-outs in the lineup discounting the pitcher

 

Lou is making it harder for us to score against a bad pitcher. Bad Lou, bad.

[gerby23]

Guess I'll be the one to venture out and say the crappy guys are gonna rock

[CyHawk_Cub1679667117]

Just piling on at this point, but a FAIL by the Cubs front office today. JH just needs to get over the Shark fetish & admit the Miles signing was a mistake also. Hendry is displaying a stubbornness that could cost this team, hell, has already cost this team

[laurens]

cst_cubs: "Lilly threw a side today. Lou says he's ahead of schedule."

[Fred Hornkohl]

cst_cubs: "Lilly threw a side today. Lou says he's ahead of schedule."

 

This is good news !!

[MWV]

Hopefully, the Cubs can score a ton of runs and Harden is on. That way, rather than being frustrated by Miles ABs, we can simply laugh at him getting shut down by Justin Lehr.

[third eye]

Just tried to check out his game log on BR to see if there were any hint of sanity in the decision to keep running Miles out there. Predictably, I found nothing. However, I noticed that he finished 4th in RoY voting 2004 - above Matt Holliday! He finished that year with an OBP of .329 and a SLG of .368. How in the hell did he get those votes???

[rocket]

seriously though, what's the cubs lineup tonight

[Fred Hornkohl]

Tuesday 04 August 2009

CUBS @ Cincinnati

18:10

 

 

CUBS

 

Fukudome, cf

Miles, ss

D Lee, 1b

A Ramirez, 3b

Bradley, rf

Soriano, lf

Fontenot, 2b

K Hill, c

Harden, p

 

 

Cincinnati

 

Taveras, cf

Gonzalez, ss

Votto, 1b

Phillips, 2b

Roeln, 3b

Balentien, rf

Nix, lf

Hanigan, c

Lehr, p

[RedFlash]

Since he can't get the ball out of the infield anyways but Miles should be on a strick "bunts only" instructions for the night. Since Miles is an automatic out, might as well make it a productive automatic out.

[Donbedouin]

Miles not only starting (he shouldn't even be on the team) but batting 2nd. The Cubs make me angry.

 

What do think the chances were that Soriano would see a single fastball if he had Aaron Miles and Koyie Hill batting behind him?

[Ballgame64]

I get a kick out of how Blanco, an actual shortstop, has only been given one start lately but when Miles comes back he gets thrown right in there. Screw these veterans. All you owe them is the paycheck. Don't get me wrong, I want the Cubs to win but I almost hope Miles makes a key error and has an 0-4 leaving runners on each time. What will it take for them to just release him?

 

How can Hendry or Lou look Stevens in the eye and tell him he has to go back to the minors because the GM gave a wide receiver a ridiculous contract. Didn't Hendry always say "we are in the earn it business" when talking about Felix Pie? But that has never been the case with any other player. Not that Pie would have been anything more than what he is, but with the line-up they had, they should have been able to live with a young kid in CF who could play very good defense.

[Ballgame64]

Miles not only starting (he shouldn't even be on the team) but batting 2nd. The Cubs make me angry.

 

What do think the chances were that Soriano would see a single fastball if he had Aaron Miles and Koyie Hill batting behind him?

 

Like Fontenot and Hill are much better? If you were a pitcher, would you ever throw Soriano a fastball? For guys like him it doesn't matter who bats before or after him.

[erik316wttn]

Miles not only starting (he shouldn't even be on the team) but batting 2nd. The Cubs make me angry.

 

That's a Dusty move, when he'd have Ordonez, Bynum, or Neifi in the 2 hole.