Olney says Cubs will NOT make a big deal

[Roast]

Olney was on ESPN radio (the show on ESPN) and he said the cubs "may tinker with the bullpen" but they "will not make a big deal." Take all that for what it's worth, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

 

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[BCVM22]

Have the Cubs really been linked to a "big deal" yet? I don't think Sherrill or even Sanchez really qualify as such, do you?

[Exile on Waveland]

Have the Cubs really been linked to a "big deal" yet? I don't think Sherrill or even Sanchez really qualify as such, do you?

 

In the eyes of the media, I would have to believe dealing for an "all-star second baseman" would constitute a big deal.

[Roast]

Have the Cubs really been linked to a "big deal" yet? I don't think Sherrill or even Sanchez really qualify as such, do you?

Well, sanchez isn't exactly big - but as Exile alluded to, it's not exactly minor tinkering either. Especially in the eyes of the media.

[Bruno7481]

I think the only deal you will see is for a LH reliever of some sort. I'm not even thinking Sherrill, probably a Joe Beimel/John Grabow type.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Theres really no point to going after a loogy unless were giving up next to nothing. Why not give Gaub, Ryan, or Fossum a chance before giving up prospects for no good reason?

[CyHawk_Cub]

Theres really no point to going after a loogy unless were giving up next to nothing. Why not give Gaub, Ryan, or Fossum a chance before giving up prospects for no good reason?

 

Veteran-ness?

[dew1679666265]

Theres really no point to going after a loogy unless were giving up next to nothing. Why not give Gaub, Ryan, or Fossum a chance before giving up prospects for no good reason?

 

Veteran-ness?

 

Gaub is the only young player he mentioned. Ryan and Fossum are veterans.

 

Lefties are hitting Beimel this year at a .228/.286/.421/.707 clip. He also has a 13:4 K:BB ratio. Lefties are hitting Grabow at .250/.333/.271/.604 this year.

 

Ryan could be an option but they want him to pitch in the minors some and see if he has anything left, Fossum isn't very likely to do as well as Grabow and Beimel and Gaub is still working on getting his control improved. I wouldn't give much for either Beimel or Grabow, but both are decent bets to be better this year than the other three options.

[weis21]

Olney also said the Reds may have some financial restrictions that they need to take care and mentioned Arthur Rhodes as a LH relief pitcher who could conceivably be dealt to the Cubs.

 

I hadn't taken notice, but wow - are his numbers impressive this year!

 

A 264 ERA+ and a WHIP just under 1. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him on board, especially since Baltimore is asking for "top-tier" talent for Sherrill.

 

Of course on the other hand, I think our pen is fine and doesn't need to be "tinkered" with at all.

[SouthSideRyan]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Someone needs to kidnap Hendry until the deadline so he doesnt go trading Jay Jackson and/or Chris Carpenter for some mediocre rent-a-loogy

[weis21]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

Well lefties are OPSing .324 against him this year. I think he's about as sure of a bet as you can find as far as LOOGYs go.

 

I don't want him as an 8th inning guy and I certainly wouldn't give up anything of even remote value to acquire him, but they could do a lot worse if all they want is a loogy. Hopefully then Marshall could exit the "LOOGY" role and pitch entire innings (gasp!).

[dew1679666265]

Someone needs to kidnap Hendry until the deadline so he doesnt go trading Jay Jackson and/or Chris Carpenter for some mediocre rent-a-loogy

 

Hendry rarely overpays in deadline deals.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I don't know how to put this, but I'm kind of a big deal

[RedFlash]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

 

So you don't want a reliever who has an era under 2 and a whip under 1? :-k Call me crazy but he would be an asset to the bullpen.

[NCCubFan]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

Come on, quit exaggerating. He can't be a day over 50.

[Jehrico]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

 

So you don't want a reliever who has an era under 2 and a whip under 1? :-k Call me crazy but he would be an asset to the bullpen.

If, for nothing else, by giving us the flexibility to swing Marshall back to the rotation if needed, it'd be a smart move. The fact he's been performing far better than an average LOOGY is just gravy.

[SouthSideRyan]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

 

So you don't want a reliever who has an era under 2 and a whip under 1? :-k Call me crazy but he would be an asset to the bullpen.

 

Want to bet on where his #s finish?

[RedFlash]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

 

So you don't want a reliever who has an era under 2 and a whip under 1? :-k Call me crazy but he would be an asset to the bullpen.

 

Want to bet on where his #s finish?

 

Maybe, but he'll be easier to acquire then a guy like Beimel, Burnett, or Sherrill.

[weis21]

I want nothing to do with a 56 year old Arthur Rhodes.

 

So you don't want a reliever who has an era under 2 and a whip under 1? :-k Call me crazy but he would be an asset to the bullpen.

 

Want to bet on where his #s finish?

Last year lefties OPSed .447 against him. I'd bet, if only used against lefties (which I'm sure would probably happen), he'd be a valuable bullpen arm. He wouldn't be a savior or anything, but he'd be useful, as mentioned before, if for no other reason than to allow Marshall more flexibility either as a starter or a reliever.

[SouthSideRyan]

As a fan of an 11 man bullpen, I have no use for a guy who sucks against righties.

[weis21]

As a fan of an 11 man bullpen, I have no use for a guy who sucks against righties.

That's fair. But realistically we are stuck with a senile, old manager who is obsessed with old school role's such as LOOGYs. There will be a LOOGY on this team whether we like it or not. I'd rather that LOOGY be Rhodes (for a very small price) than Marshall.

[CUBZ99]

Last year lefties OPSed .447 against him. I'd bet, if only used against lefties (which I'm sure would probably happen), he'd be a valuable bullpen arm. He wouldn't be a savior or anything, but he'd be useful, as mentioned before, if for no other reason than to allow Marshall more flexibility either as a starter or a reliever.

 

I'm now officially sold on Marshall as a bullpen arm. Since going to the pen his numbers have been spectacular and as we know from the last few years it is tough to find a situational lefty that you can count on during crucial parts of the game. If the Cubs get another LOOGY, I hope they do it with the intention of having two lefties in the pen for the rest of the year and not returning Marshall to the rotation.

 

The way the Cubs rotation is set, you really can't ask for much more and I don't think Marshall is going to make a big difference over Wells or any other starter.

[SouthSideRyan]

As a fan of an 11 man bullpen, I have no use for a guy who sucks against righties.

That's fair. But realistically we are stuck with a senile, old manager who is obsessed with old school role's such as LOOGYs. There will be a LOOGY on this team whether we like it or not. I'd rather that LOOGY be Rhodes (for a very small price) than Marshall.

 

I fear acquiring Rhodes would only give us 2 LOOGYs and enhance Marmol's death via arm decapitation.

[Flames24Rulz]

Who gives a [expletive] what Buster Olney says? He shouldn't be considered a national baseball guy. His information is really only relevant to the Yankees and again, who gives a [expletive] about the Yankees?