What About Miguel Tejada for 3b?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Tejada has been on fire lately. He's hitting 362 /388/546. He's not completely a product of MMP. His slugging is lower on the road, but his BA/OBP are fairly consistent. His OBP is driven almost completely by BA, but that's always been the case with Tejada (Billy Beane nicknamed him "Mr. [expletive] Swing at Everything.").

 

The Astros are falling fast and they could save some money by moving Tejada and his 13 million for this year. His contract is up at the end of the season, so it would be wise for the Astros to get something for him while they can.

 

I know it's tough trading with a division rival, but if the Cubs could get Tejada, he could play 3b while Ramirez is out. When Ramirez returns, he may still need days off with his shoulder. Tejada could play some SS and Theriot could play some 2b. I know it would be a problem fitting everyone into the line-up between Theriot, Ramirez, and Tejada, but I think that for the last half of the season, it could be done.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Astros never consider themselves out until their E# is 0. That being said, especially within the division half a season of Tejada would cost us an arm and a leg.

[jersey cubs fan]

I know it would be a problem fitting everyone into the line-up between Theriot, Ramirez, and Tejada, but I think that for the last half of the season, it could be done.

 

I don't think that would be a problem at all. This team would be much better off with a good hitting SS and a Theriot/Fontenot at 2B late in the season. Plus Ramirez is not going to play everyday if/when he returns.

 

It sounds good, but I don't know how realistic it is to have them deal for Tejada.

[kjfoster 1553]

It sounds good, but I don't know how realistic it is to have them deal for Tejada.

[Backtobanks]

Tejada has been on fire lately. He's hitting 362 /388/546. He's not completely a product of MMP. His slugging is lower on the road, but his BA/OBP are fairly consistent. His OBP is driven almost completely by BA, but that's always been the case with Tejada (Billy Beane nicknamed him "Mr. [expletive] Swing at Everything.").

 

The Astros are falling fast and they could save some money by moving Tejada and his 13 million for this year. His contract is up at the end of the season, so it would be wise for the Astros to get something for him while they can.

 

I know it's tough trading with a division rival, but if the Cubs could get Tejada, he could play 3b while Ramirez is out. When Ramirez returns, he may still need days off with his shoulder. Tejada could play some SS and Theriot could play some 2b. I know it would be a problem fitting everyone into the line-up between Theriot, Ramirez, and Tejada, but I think that for the last half of the season, it could be done.

 

I would much rather use the prospects to go after Cantu or Sanchez who could move permantly to 2B after Ramirez returns and are both young enough to help in the future.

[E.J.]

I kind of like this idea. Then when Ramirez comes back put Tejada at SS and move Theriot to 2b. Never going to happen (can't have so many righty's in the lineup!), but it's a nice thought.

[PrimeTime]

Didn't the O's want to trade Tejada to us for Hill and a few more guys, but Hendry said Rich Hill is " untouchable " ?

[dew1679666265]

Tejada has been on fire lately. He's hitting 362 /388/546. He's not completely a product of MMP. His slugging is lower on the road, but his BA/OBP are fairly consistent. His OBP is driven almost completely by BA, but that's always been the case with Tejada (Billy Beane nicknamed him "Mr. [expletive] Swing at Everything.").

 

The Astros are falling fast and they could save some money by moving Tejada and his 13 million for this year. His contract is up at the end of the season, so it would be wise for the Astros to get something for him while they can.

 

I know it's tough trading with a division rival, but if the Cubs could get Tejada, he could play 3b while Ramirez is out. When Ramirez returns, he may still need days off with his shoulder. Tejada could play some SS and Theriot could play some 2b. I know it would be a problem fitting everyone into the line-up between Theriot, Ramirez, and Tejada, but I think that for the last half of the season, it could be done.

 

I would much rather use the prospects to go after Cantu or Sanchez who could move permantly to 2B after Ramirez returns and are both young enough to help in the future.

 

Do you mean Freddy Sanchez? He's 31 and before this year had one season with an OPS+ over 103.

 

Cantu has been terrific the first month of this year, but terrible in the second. Part of that is injury, but he's been very inconsistent over his career and his only two good seasons (110 and 112 OPS+s) were only above average.

[erik316wttn]

I'll trade Prior for him this time.

[17 Seconds]

Didn't the O's want to trade Tejada to us for Hill and a few more guys, but Hendry said Rich Hill is " untouchable " ?

 

No

[Guest]

I think is a great "outside of the box idea", but I'd be a little worried about the prospects that the Cubs would have to give up. I also don't think either Hendry or Lou would consider the idea b/c I don't think they'd consider moving Theriot from SS.

[Vanilla Ice]

I also don't think either Hendry or Lou would consider the idea b/c I don't think they'd consider moving Theriot from SS.

You might want to re-read the title :)

[fromthestretch]

I also don't think either Hendry or Lou would consider the idea b/c I don't think they'd consider moving Theriot from SS.

You might want to re-read the title :)

 

It's still valid though. Ramirez probably won't be out the entire season, so you have to think about where Tejada would play when Ramirez returns. The logical answer is shortstop. If you still want to keep Theriot's bat in the lineup then, you could move him to second, with Fontenot getting some time there against right-handers.

[Guest]

I also don't think either Hendry or Lou would consider the idea b/c I don't think they'd consider moving Theriot from SS.

You might want to re-read the title :)

 

It's still valid though. Ramirez probably won't be out the entire season, so you have to think about where Tejada would play when Ramirez returns. The logical answer is shortstop. If you still want to keep Theriot's bat in the lineup then, you could move him to second, with Fontenot getting some time there against right-handers.

Yea I was thinking ahead. They could trade Theriot for Tejada but I think both Lou and Hendry really like Theriot.

[SouthSideRyan]

I also don't think either Hendry or Lou would consider the idea b/c I don't think they'd consider moving Theriot from SS.

You might want to re-read the title :)

 

It's still valid though. Ramirez probably won't be out the entire season, so you have to think about where Tejada would play when Ramirez returns. The logical answer is shortstop. If you still want to keep Theriot's bat in the lineup then, you could move him to second, with Fontenot getting some time there against right-handers.

Yea I was thinking ahead. They could trade Theriot for Tejada but I think both Lou and Hendry really like Theriot.

 

That would be a really stupid trade. And would still leave us with Scales/Blanco playing everyday til Ramirez comes back.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

[Old Style]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

Which Tejada are you referring to? Certainly not the one that's leading the NL in batting average right now.

[Guest]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

Which Tejada are you referring to? Certainly not the one that's leading the NL in batting average right now.

Yea, it's some sort of an inside joke. Theriot's never been better than Tejada.

[CubColtPacer]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

Which Tejada are you referring to? Certainly not the one that's leading the NL in batting average right now.

Yea, it's some sort of an inside joke. Theriot's never been better than Tejada.

 

I would tend to agree. But they are pretty close this year (Tejada's peripherals absolutely scream luck so far this year). Why would you ever want to trade the two of them? Tejada is more expensive. He might be worse than Theriot defensively now (metrics would say he is). And if you do trade the two of them for each other, who starts at SS in 2010?

 

It makes no sense to make a trade like that for a possible upgrade in 2009 and a definite downgrade in total value every other year.

[Guest]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

Which Tejada are you referring to? Certainly not the one that's leading the NL in batting average right now.

Yea, it's some sort of an inside joke. Theriot's never been better than Tejada.

 

I would tend to agree. But they are pretty close this year (Tejada's peripherals absolutely scream luck so far this year). Why would you ever want to trade the two of them? Tejada is more expensive. He might be worse than Theriot defensively now (metrics would say he is). And if you do trade the two of them for each other, who starts at SS in 2010?

 

It makes no sense to make a trade like that for a possible upgrade in 2009 and a definite downgrade in total value every other year.

I wouldn't trade for Tejada unless the money was worth it. I agree that with contracts I'd rather have Theroit. I was trying to go along with Vance original line of thinking and thinking out loud myself. The question remains as to what to do with him when Aramis comes back. If he were to be traded I'd like to see the Cubs move Theriot to 2nd or move Tejada to second (I don't know which would be easier).

 

Like I said, I don't think the Cubs would trade Theroit in almost any case.

[dew1679666265]

I wouldn't trade for Tejada unless the money was worth it. I agree that with contracts I'd rather have Theroit. I was trying to go along with Vance original line of thinking and thinking out loud myself. The question remains as to what to do with him when Aramis comes back. If he were to be traded I'd like to see the Cubs move Theriot to 2nd or move Tejada to second (I don't know which would be easier).

 

Like I said, I don't think the Cubs would trade Theroit in almost any case.

 

Honestly, if the Cubs were to acquire Tejada, I'd be in favor of shifting Theriot to second when Aramis returns. Go with an infield of Aramis, Tejada, Theriot and DLee and the infield is in pretty good shape. Then you let Fontenot bat against some/most (whichever you prefer) of the righties and back up 2B and 3B.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Theriot is better than Tejada.

Which Tejada are you referring to? Certainly not the one that's leading the NL in batting average right now.

Yea, it's some sort of an inside joke. Theriot's never been better than Tejada.

 

They both posted a 3.1 WAR last year, and even with Tejada's insane start this year, Theriot's 1.6 WAR edges Tejada's 1.4 thus far. Theriot's also 5.5 years younger, doesn't have declining skills, and actually plays a MLB SS right now.

[Fanatic3332000]

why would the astros want to trade tejeda to a team in their own division? the only team that is that stupid enough to do that is the pirates.

[CubColtPacer]

why would the astros want to trade tejeda to a team in their own division? the only team that is that stupid enough to do that is the pirates.

 

If the Astros fall out of it, it makes more sense to trade him to a division rival than any other team. Tejada helps the other team like the Cubs for 2009, but then the loss of prospects hurts the Cubs every year after 2009 (when Tejada is probably not re-signed).

 

Since the Astros wouldn't care about 2009 at that point, it's in their best interest to weaken one of their division rivals for upcoming seasons. Even if the Cubs won it all in 2009 because of that move, why would the Astros care? They weren't going anywhere anyway.

[Derwood]

apparently the Cardinals are interested....