Randy Wells

[dew1679666265]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

It'll likely also help Happ that he's on a more successful team than Wells. It shouldn't make any difference in an evaluation of personal performance, but I have no doubt at least some of the voters will give Happ more credit because his team has been better than Wells' in the regular season.

 

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Probably, but it shouldn't have then either.

[Derwood]

on a side note, why does every announcer/studio guy call J.A. Happ "Jay Happ"? Are they just running the letters together, or is this some bizarre spelling of the name Jay?

[dew1679666265]

on a side note, why does every announcer/studio guy call J.A. Happ "Jay Happ"? Are they just running the letters together, or is this some bizarre spelling of the name Jay?

 

This is Wikipedia's take on it. Take it for what it's worth.

 

Though his name is James Anthony and is spelled "J. A.", his name is pronounced "Jay".

[Ski]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?

Joey Votto

[Clem Fandango]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?

Joey Votto

 

Yeah, Votto actually had slightly better numbers than Soto last year, but Soto put the numbers up at a typically offensive starved position where his numbers were some of the best in the majors whereas Votto's were par for the course at his position. That played a lot into it. If you go solely off numbers, Votto would've had Soto beat, but factor in defense and position and Soto was a no brainer

[Derwood]

on a side note, why does every announcer/studio guy call J.A. Happ "Jay Happ"? Are they just running the letters together, or is this some bizarre spelling of the name Jay?

 

This is Wikipedia's take on it. Take it for what it's worth.

 

Though his name is James Anthony and is spelled "J. A.", his name is pronounced "Jay".

 

Well that's simply annoying.

[Banedon]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/randy-wells/

 

Harry Pavlidis is awesome. I'm so glad he's a Cubs fan so their players are routinely the focus of his articles.

[Keener98]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

 

Yea using wins and the fact that he never answered the question really.

[jersey cubs fan]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

 

Yea using wins and the fact that he never answered the question really.

 

Actually, wins is probably going to end up being the biggest factor in whether or not he wins the award.

[Keener98]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

 

Yea using wins and the fact that he never answered the question really.

 

Actually, wins is probably going to end up being the biggest factor in whether or not he wins the award.

 

Yea I know thats probably what is going to be the biggest factor. I just think its funny Morgan never answers the question. Says hes a candidate, but doesnt say yes he thinks he should be or no such and such is probably ahead of him right now.

[inari]

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/randy-wells/

 

Harry Pavlidis is awesome. I'm so glad he's a Cubs fan so their players are routinely the focus of his articles.

 

That didn't strike me as particularly optimistic.

[carolinacubbie]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

I wonder if the only reason that Haap is getting more press is strictly because of Halladay and the whole trade rumors. Honestly, before that no one was talking about Haap at all. Now that those are over and the Phillies have Cliff Lee I figure Haap hype will end. Since we will be in a battle with the Cards I figure up until the very end, I figure Wells will get much more pub.

[NCCubFan]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

I wonder if the only reason that Haap is getting more press is strictly because of Halladay and the whole trade rumors. Honestly, before that no one was talking about Haap at all. Now that those are over and the Phillies have Cliff Lee I figure Haap hype will end. Since we will be in a battle with the Cards I figure up until the very end, I figure Wells will get much more pub.

Happ may not even have a spot in the Phillies' rotation much longer. There's speculation that he might be odd man out when Pedro Martinez is activated.

[Shilzzz]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?

Joey Votto

 

Yeah, Votto actually had slightly better numbers than Soto last year, but Soto put the numbers up at a typically offensive starved position where his numbers were some of the best in the majors whereas Votto's were par for the course at his position. That played a lot into it. If you go solely off numbers, Votto would've had Soto beat, but factor in defense and position and Soto was a no brainer

 

I think you are giving the vast majority of people that vote on these sorts of things far too much credit

[daske17]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

 

Yea using wins and the fact that he never answered the question really.

 

I miss FJM at times like this. :cray:

[Clem Fandango]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?

Joey Votto

 

Yeah, Votto actually had slightly better numbers than Soto last year, but Soto put the numbers up at a typically offensive starved position where his numbers were some of the best in the majors whereas Votto's were par for the course at his position. That played a lot into it. If you go solely off numbers, Votto would've had Soto beat, but factor in defense and position and Soto was a no brainer

 

I think you are giving the vast majority of people that vote on these sorts of things far too much credit

 

Touche

[Section538]

Someone else asked the question too apparently....

 

Jack (Chicago): Is Randy Wells the ROY in the NL if the season ended today?

 

Joe Morgan (11:18 AM): He has to be considered a candidate, because he could end up winning 12-13 games. He has been an excellent guy and is probably their No. 3 starter right now if they were start the playoffs right now, depending on the health of Dempster.

 

I love that wins is his justification. That and he's been an excellent guy.

 

I'd forgotten about the Joe-chats. I miss http://www.firejoemorgan.com.

 

edited to add: or what daske17 said...

[Donbedouin]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?

Joey Votto

 

Yeah, Votto actually had slightly better numbers than Soto last year, but Soto put the numbers up at a typically offensive starved position where his numbers were some of the best in the majors whereas Votto's were par for the course at his position. That played a lot into it. If you go solely off numbers, Votto would've had Soto beat, but factor in defense and position and Soto was a no brainer

 

I think you are giving the vast majority of people that vote on these sorts of things far too much credit

 

Yeah, especially when you consider the ones who voted for Volquez despite the fact that he wasn't a rookie.

[MPrior]

I don't really have much of substance to add to the discussion, but I liked this Jake Fox quote from an article about Wells on Cubs.com:

 

"[Wells] still gives me a hard time about it," Fox said. "In the Minor Leagues, he'd say, 'I'd still be catching if it weren't for you, Fox.' I said, 'I'd be catching if it weren't for me.' "

 

Sorry if it's been posted elsewhere.

[Clem Fandango]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-nl-rookie-pitchers

 

Randy Wells, RHP, Chicago Cubs

 

Wells has been a godsend for the Cubs in 2009 and the organization almost lost him in 2007/08 when the Toronto Blue Jays organization nabbed him in the Rule 5 draft. After just one MLB appearance, though, the Jays cut Wells loose and Chicago gladly took him back. The converted catcher is 26 years old, but he is big, strong and has a fresh arm. So far this season, Wells has allowed 102 hits in 107.2 innings of work. He has an excellent walk rate at 2.02 BB/9 and a respectable (but low-ish) strikeout rate at 5.68 K/9. Right-handed batters are having a much more difficult time hitting for average against Wells (.228) than left-handers (.288). He’s approaching his career high in innings pitched.

[laurens]

After his performance today, he is 10th in ERA for MLB pitchers. Well done Randy =D>

[B-Diddy]

9-6 with 2.84 ERA.

 

Worst...run support...ever.

[KingCubsFan]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-nl-rookie-pitchers

 

Randy Wells, RHP, Chicago Cubs

 

Wells has been a godsend for the Cubs in 2009 and the organization almost lost him in 2007/08 when the Toronto Blue Jays organization nabbed him in the Rule 5 draft. After just one MLB appearance, though, the Jays cut Wells loose and Chicago gladly took him back. The converted catcher is 26 years old, but he is big, strong and has a fresh arm. So far this season, Wells has allowed 102 hits in 107.2 innings of work. He has an excellent walk rate at 2.02 BB/9 and a respectable (but low-ish) strikeout rate at 5.68 K/9. Right-handed batters are having a much more difficult time hitting for average against Wells (.228) than left-handers (.288). He’s approaching his career high in innings pitched.

If he's reaching his career high we should just shut him down in September. No sense risking injury for this bunch of failures.