Randy Wells

[Little Slide Rooter]

Hes #2 in wins and leads in ERA on one of the better pitching staffs in the league. ROY.

[Derwood]

Hes #2 in wins and leads in ERA on one of the better pitching staffs in the league. ROY.

 

problem is he is not (nor has ever been) on any voter's radar all year. He's not getting much national media coverage, and the voters seem to just vote for players they've heard of (thus Volquez getting votes last year despite not being a rookie)

[Shilzzz]

actually, during the espn sportscenter updats after his last start they said something about him making a case for ROY. national radio

[cubbieblue22]

If Wells can keep up what he has done so far for the rest of the year, he will win the ROY.

[Guest]

Assuming Wells does win ROY, three years ago, who'd have imagined Geovany Soto and Randy Wells as back-to-back ROYs?

[inari]

Assuming Wells does win ROY, three years ago, who'd have imagined Geovany Soto and Randy Wells as back-to-back ROYs?

 

Geovany Soto and Randy Wells. Except not about each other.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

[17 Seconds]

mccutchen maybe

[B-Diddy]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

 

 

I think they mentioned that Happ on Phillies, and I think he's like 7-1 or something? I have no clue what his ERA is though.

[BCVM22]

2.97

[Fred Hornkohl]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

 

 

I think they mentioned that Happ on Phillies, and I think he's like 7-1 or something? I have no clue what his ERA is though.

 

Welcome to the board !

[B-Diddy]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

 

 

I think they mentioned that Happ on Phillies, and I think he's like 7-1 or something? I have no clue what his ERA is though.

 

Welcome to the board !

 

 

Thanks! :)

[Keener98]

Tommy Hansen, Wells, Happ should be the top 3 right now. There really hasnt been any everyday players as rookies who have put up good numbers for an extended amount of time in my opinion. I think a pitcher deserves ROY this year no doubt.

[Outshined_One]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

 

JA Happ looks pretty good for the Phils so far.

[RedFlash]

Who else could compete with Wells for ROY in the NL? Rasmus will get some votes, even though he's not very good this year. I'm drawing a blank on who else is a rookie.

 

For pitchers I see Wells, Happ, Kawakami, and Hanson (if he qualifies or should he qualify)could get votes. As for hitters I see Rasmus, Fowler, perhaps McCutchen---if he can qualify---as getting votes. But if I had to guess as to who are the favorites for the ROY award, I would put Happ and Wells---in that order---over any of the hitters as of tonight. Now I might be missing some rookies, but Happ and Wells, IMO are clearly the top two rookies in the NL.

[sweetpeteman]

ROY Race in the NL:

 

In the running to win (In what I feel is the current order):

 

J.A. Happ, PHI, 7-2, 2.97 ERA, 1.160 WHIP, 76K, 144 ERA+ in 106 IP

Randy Wells, CHC, 8-4, 2.73 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 65 K, 154 ERA+ in 102.1 IP

Tommy Hanson, ATL, 5-2, 3.25 ERA, 1.382 WHIP, 41K, 128 ERA+ in 61 IP

Andrew McCutchen, PIT, .292 AVG, .347 OBP, .484 SLG, .831 OPS, 123 OPS+ in 239 PA (6 HR, 14 2B, 5 3B, 9 SB)

 

On the outside looking in:

 

Colby Rasmus, STL, .252 AVG, .307 OBP, .426 SLG, .732 OPS, 93 OPS+ in 341 PA (11 HR, 19 2B, 1 3B, 1 SB)

Chris Coghlan, FLA, .259 AVG, .343 OBP, .376 SLG, .719 OPS, 92 OPS+ in 291 PA (5 HR, 13 2B, 1 3B, 5 SB)

Everth Cabrera, SD, .265 AVG, .346 OBP, .401 SLG, .747 OPS, 108 OPS+ in 186 PA (1 HR, 9 2B, 5 3B, 13 SB)

Geraldo Parra, ARI, .274 AVG, .313 OBP, .415 SLG, .728 OPS, 86 OPS+ in 292 PA (5 HR, 9 2B, 7 3B, 4 SB)

Dexter Fowler, COL, .254 AVG, .357 OBP, .389 SLG, .717 OPS, 85 OPS+ in 386 PA (4 HR, 21 2B, 5 3B, 21 SB)

 

 

Could affect the vote:

 

Jake Fox, CHC, .308 AVG, .347 OBP, .607 SLG, .954 OPS, 141 OPS+ in 121 PA (8 HR, 8 2B)

Kenshin Kawakami, ATL, 5-8, 4.37 ERA, 1.390 WHIP, 95 ERA+ in 105 IP (And is 34 years old, so some voters will be hesitant to even include him)

Danny Herrera, CIN, 2.70 ERA(Reliever, so may not get much attention)

Ramon Troncoso, LAD, 1.99 ERA(Reliever, so may not get much attention)

Ronald Belisario, LAD, 2.42 ERA(Reliever, so may not get much attention)

Jesse Chavez, PIT, 3.71 ERA(Reliever, so may not get much attention)

Luke Gregerson, SD, 3.06 ERA(Reliever, so may not get much attention)

Jordan Zimmermann, WSH, 3-5, 4.63 ERA, 1.358 WHIP 93 ERA+ in 91.1 IP

 

 

Could affect the vote due to voters being morons:

 

Pablo Sandoval, SF. Lost his rookie status last year.

 

 

Note: There is no such thing as "Qualify" for minimum IP/PA for ROY, only disqualify if over certain amount in previous years.

Edited August 4, 2009 by sweetpeteman

[UMFan83]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

[sweetpeteman]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

[mul21]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

Which makes it all the more unfortunate he got hosed out of wins in his first couple of starts since that's really what the voters will look at.

[Banedon]

I feel like a definitive answer to the ROY question is necessary, so I submitted that question to Joe Morgan's chat today. \:D/

[soapy]

I feel like a definitive answer to the ROY question is necessary, so I submitted that question to Joe Morgan's chat today. \:D/

 

Joe hasn't seen them play enough to know which guy has been more consistant.

[Banedon]

I feel like a definitive answer to the ROY question is necessary, so I submitted that question to Joe Morgan's chat today. \:D/

 

Joe hasn't seen them play enough to know which guy has been more consistant.

 

That's exactly the answer I'm waiting for.

[dew1679666265]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

It'll likely also help Happ that he's on a more successful team than Wells. It shouldn't make any difference in an evaluation of personal performance, but I have no doubt at least some of the voters will give Happ more credit because his team has been better than Wells' in the regular season.

[biittner77]

Why Happ over Wells? Wells has more wins and a lower ERA and WHIP. Happ has 12 more K's in 3.2 more innings, but is that enough to have him leap over Wells?

 

 

 

This isn't personal ranking, this is where I think they stand in the voting, and Happ seems to be getting more press, but that may change (and I could easily be wrong).

 

 

Its really going to come down to which one of Happ/Wells finishes stronger. I don't think McCutchen or any of the other batters are going to do enough to really merit strong consideration and Hanson is already behind in wins, IP, K, ERA, whatever and probably won't be able to do enough, without going on some ridiculous run, to win.

 

It'll likely also help Happ that he's on a more successful team than Wells. It shouldn't make any difference in an evaluation of personal performance, but I have no doubt at least some of the voters will give Happ more credit because his team has been better than Wells' in the regular season.

 

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

[jersey cubs fan]

Would you also say that the very same principle worked in Soto's favor last year too?

 

Sure, but so did the fact that he was the starting ASG catcher, and had terrific numbers for a his position.

 

Who was his closest competition?