The Tennis Thread

[shnsajax]

Does Isner have to play today again? That would be cruel yet funny.

[sweetpeteman]

Does Isner have to play today again? That would be cruel yet funny.

 

I'm pretty sure that they had already moved the winner's second match to tomorrow.

[jersey cubs fan]

Does Isner have to play today again? That would be cruel yet funny.

 

I'm pretty sure that they had already moved the winner's second match to tomorrow.

 

He's listed as playing in a doubles match sometime today.

[Soul]

Does Isner have to play today again? That would be cruel yet funny.

 

I'm pretty sure that they had already moved the winner's second match to tomorrow.

 

He's listed as playing in a doubles match sometime today.

 

Might be a good time for a mysterious leg tweak to appear, which just as mysteriously disappears in time for tomorrow :)

[Garwilly]

They're both on the schedule it looks like.

[wvcbxl]

I loved the ovation they got walking on.

[bukie]

Isner lost his second round match in straight sets 6-0,6-3,6-2, with zero aces.

[Banedon]

Isner lost his second round match in straight sets 6-0,6-3,6-2, with zero aces.

 

Well you had to know that was coming.

[chuckywang]

Isner lost his second round match in straight sets 6-0,6-3,6-2, with zero aces.

 

Some athletes just have no heart.

[Guest]

Federer loses in the Wimbledon quarterfinals today. He's the only one of the top-4 seeds (Nadal, Djokovic, Murray) to fail to make the semis.

[Wilson A2000]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

[Magnetic Curses]

federer is a giant turd who's finished

[jersey cubs fan]

I really don't get your Federer hate. I mean, other than his euro-trashiness, he's seems like a decent enough person.

[Guest]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

 

I don't think his days are over, but he's certainly going downhill. Losing early at the French is one thing, but losing early at Wimbledon is another. He's not done and I still think he's good enough to win another major or two, but his days of dominating are over. In addition to Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and del Potro are all very good players capable of winning multiple majors.

[SouthSideRyan]

I really don't get your Federer hate. I mean, other than his euro-trashiness, he's seems like a decent enough person.

 

Sulley hate need not be understood

[SpongeWorthy]

It just isn't very Marxist for one guy to hog all those grand slams.

[shnsajax]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

 

I don't think his days are over, but he's certainly going downhill. Losing early at the French is one thing, but losing early at Wimbledon is another. He's not done and I still think he's good enough to win another major or two, but his days of dominating are over. In addition to Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and del Potro are all very good players capable of winning multiple majors.

 

Yeah its starting to look like the normal days of tennis where winning 1 major a year was considered a good year. Federer just doesn't have the same edge that he once had, I wonder if having a kid had anything to do with it. Djokovic hasn't lived up to the expectations I had for him 2 years ago.

[SpongeWorthy]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

 

I don't think his days are over, but he's certainly going downhill. Losing early at the French is one thing, but losing early at Wimbledon is another. He's not done and I still think he's good enough to win another major or two, but his days of dominating are over. In addition to Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and del Potro are all very good players capable of winning multiple majors.

 

Yeah its starting to look like the normal days of tennis where winning 1 major a year was considered a good year. Federer just doesn't have the same edge that he once had, I wonder if having a kid had anything to do with it. Djokovic hasn't lived up to the expectations I had for him 2 years ago.

 

Hasn't there always been a dominant player in men's tennis for at least the last 30 years?

[Vanilla Ice]

There was a period between Hewitt and Federer that lasted a little while IIRC

[shnsajax]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

 

I don't think his days are over, but he's certainly going downhill. Losing early at the French is one thing, but losing early at Wimbledon is another. He's not done and I still think he's good enough to win another major or two, but his days of dominating are over. In addition to Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and del Potro are all very good players capable of winning multiple majors.

 

Yeah its starting to look like the normal days of tennis where winning 1 major a year was considered a good year. Federer just doesn't have the same edge that he once had, I wonder if having a kid had anything to do with it. Djokovic hasn't lived up to the expectations I had for him 2 years ago.

 

Hasn't there always been a dominant player in men's tennis for at least the last 30 years?

 

Not that dominate and not in every major. To put into perspective Sampras never won more than 2 majors in a year, Federer has won 3 in 1 year 3 different times. Sampras was #1 once for 102 straight weeks, Federer 237 straight weeks.

[Guest]

Hearing the "Federer's days are over and the torch has been passed" nonsense. They said that after Nadal beat him at Wimbledon. Then Federer promptly won the French the next year. I just don't think Federer can pass the torch without anyone to pass the torch to. Nadal could take it, but he has been too injured to accept it.

 

I don't think his days are over, but he's certainly going downhill. Losing early at the French is one thing, but losing early at Wimbledon is another. He's not done and I still think he's good enough to win another major or two, but his days of dominating are over. In addition to Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and del Potro are all very good players capable of winning multiple majors.

 

Yeah its starting to look like the normal days of tennis where winning 1 major a year was considered a good year. Federer just doesn't have the same edge that he once had, I wonder if having a kid had anything to do with it. Djokovic hasn't lived up to the expectations I had for him 2 years ago.

 

Hasn't there always been a dominant player in men's tennis for at least the last 30 years?

 

Not that dominate and not in every major. To put into perspective Sampras never won more than 2 majors in a year, Federer has won 3 in 1 year 3 different times. Sampras was #1 once for 102 straight weeks, Federer 237 straight weeks.

 

Yeah, Sampras was a lock for a Wimbledon title in his prime when he won seven in eight years but then had his other seven majors spread out over a 10-12 year span. The last time a player won three straight majors in a year was Mats Wilander in 1988. The time before that was 1974. So in the last 40 years, Federer has done it more than all of the other male tennis players combined.

 

Looking back on the double winners, since 1980, Sampras won two in a year four times, Lendl twice and McEnroe twice. Six other players have also done it once.

 

By comparison, Federer won his 16 titles in a span of 29 majors, Sampras did his 14 in 49 majors. Even if you take out the first and last of Sampras' career, since they were a couple years apart from his prime, he only won 12 in 29 majors. At his best, Federer won 8 of 10 majors and in the other two, he lost in the Finals of the French to Nadal. Sampras' best was 6 of 10 and he had a first round loss in the French and a fourth round loss in the US Open mixed in during that span.

 

Seeing how Federer was unbeatable at the French by anybody not named Rafael Nadal from 2005-08 and then won the French in 2009, the first year he didn't have to face Nadal, it's realistic to say that had the best clay court player in the history of tennis (and one of the greatest period) not come around, Federer could have another two or three majors already and have won all four majors in a year a couple times.

[Guest]

How many majors do you guys think Nadal is going to end up with?

 

He's got seven already and just turned 24 and is two ahead of where Federer was (five) at his 24th birthday, though Federer rattled off three majors during both his Age 24 and 25 calendar years as well as three more at Age 27.

 

The biggest thing for Nadal is health. If he's healthy, I think he has to go nuts and win at least four more French Opens (maybe more) which would put him at 11. I think he can get another Wimbledon or two which makes 13. He won the Aussie Open once, but he always struggles on hard courts (relatively speaking, of course) and that's the only final he's made. I think he's got an outside shot at where Federer is at now but probably finishes with 13 or 14, right around Sampras.

 

Health is obviously the biggest concern for him.

 

Up to eight majors now and halfway to where Federer is at.

[shnsajax]

How many majors do you guys think Nadal is going to end up with?

 

He's got seven already and just turned 24 and is two ahead of where Federer was (five) at his 24th birthday, though Federer rattled off three majors during both his Age 24 and 25 calendar years as well as three more at Age 27.

 

The biggest thing for Nadal is health. If he's healthy, I think he has to go nuts and win at least four more French Opens (maybe more) which would put him at 11. I think he can get another Wimbledon or two which makes 13. He won the Aussie Open once, but he always struggles on hard courts (relatively speaking, of course) and that's the only final he's made. I think he's got an outside shot at where Federer is at now but probably finishes with 13 or 14, right around Sampras.

 

Health is obviously the biggest concern for him.

 

Up to eight majors now and halfway to where Federer is at.

 

He is going to have to win some in NYC and Australia to catch Federer.

[Guest]

He's definitely going to have to get a couple on the hard courts.

 

The other thing in his way is I think the men's side is deeper than it was five years ago - either that or Federer was just that much better than everyone else from 04-07. Back then it was basically Nadal, who was still young and figuring things out on grass and hard court, and Roddick, who has always sucked against Federer. I mean, take a look at the Wimbledon seeds from 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. This year beats all of those (and blows some away) and that's without del Potro in the field.

 

Now there is Murray (23), del Potro (21) and Djokovic (23), who are all still improving and are capable of winning multiple majors and Federer is still good enough to go deep in tournaments. There's also Soderling (25), who has reached two finals, and Berdych (24), if you believe his form at Wimbledon is a glimpse of the future.

[shnsajax]

I still don't don't trust Nadal's health which has been the case now for more than 2 years when I predicted Djokovic to surpass him.