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Was there some real behind the scenes reason that DeRosa was traded? Was he a bit of pain on the bench or in the clubhouse? I'm trying to figure out if Lou forced this deal or Hendry thought he was saving money. This is a team with laid back personalities(not counting Milton and Z) and maybe DeRosa was a little outspoken. I don't know.

 

I liked DeRosa and we could sure use him at 2nd, 3rd and RF early.

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It sure makes you wonder the way things have unfolded this year. I would have thought he would have been one of the last guys going after 08.
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Sell high given his season last year, and I don't think its out of the realm of possibilities that Fontenot will have a better season offensively than Derosa this year. Sadly he doesn't have the versatility, plus this is a contract year for Derosa. Also remember that our farm right now sucks, and he got at least some more parts that he can use at the deadline to make a move.
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From all reports, DeRosa was a very positive influence in the clubhouse. He was traded because he was the only right handed starter that Hendry could move in his quest to become more "balanced".
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Since there are two threads about this I'll also remind people here that Bruce thought there were financial considerations as well.
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Sell high given his season last year

 

sell high? did you see what we got back for him? if you sell someone high, it's because you think you can get more back than he's worth. these don't look like prospects you get too excited about picking up.

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The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that Hendry thought he had Peavy in the bag, and needed to move DeRosa's salary to fit him in. Then the Peavy deal fell apart, Hendry realized it wasn't going to happen, and got stuck with a meager return because he rushed to deal DeRosa. Then he compounded his mistake by giving Miles his deal because he had that breathing room money wise.
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The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that Hendry thought he had Peavy in the bag, and needed to move DeRosa's salary to fit him in. Then the Peavy deal fell apart, Hendry realized it wasn't going to happen, and got stuck with a meager return because he rushed to deal DeRosa. Then he compounded his mistake by giving Miles his deal because he had that breathing room money wise.

 

I agree with your analysis, but I still think that the pitchers that the Cubs received were part of the overall plan, either to be part of the package or to replace the pitching prospects in the deal.

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I honestly dont think you would be worried about DeRosa if DLee, Bradley and Aram were healthy and/or doing what they were supposed to do. Your offense will even out, and you wont miss DeRosa.
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I honestly dont think you would be worried about DeRosa if DLee, Bradley and Aram were healthy and/or doing what they were supposed to do. Your offense will even out, and you wont miss DeRosa.

We still didn't get enough in return for him. But, yeah when the offense starts to click we won't miss him as much.

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The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that Hendry thought he had Peavy in the bag, and needed to move DeRosa's salary to fit him in. Then the Peavy deal fell apart, Hendry realized it wasn't going to happen, and got stuck with a meager return because he rushed to deal DeRosa. Then he compounded his mistake by giving Miles his deal because he had that breathing room money wise.

 

I concur. The problem wasn't trading DeRosa (it sucked, but I could live with it), the problem was Hendry signing Miles and basically spew such garbage about Miles "versatility" and his "switch hit capability" as the main reason to sign him. Everybody knew Miles sucks, while apparently not everybody.

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The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that Hendry thought he had Peavy in the bag, and needed to move DeRosa's salary to fit him in. Then the Peavy deal fell apart, Hendry realized it wasn't going to happen, and got stuck with a meager return because he rushed to deal DeRosa. Then he compounded his mistake by giving Miles his deal because he had that breathing room money wise.

 

I agree with your analysis, but I still think that the pitchers that the Cubs received were part of the overall plan, either to be part of the package or to replace the pitching prospects in the deal.

 

 

Yeah, I don't mean to imply Hendry didn't want Stevens, Gaub, and Archer at all. What I'm saying in exaggerated form is that Hendry thought he had a deal for Peavy and thought "I gotta get rid of DeRosa to stay under budget cause I don't have an owner and can't risk being over budget for even a second", and therefore got a less than maximum return for him.

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That explanation doesn't make a ton of sense to me, unless Hendry thought he'd have no chance to dump DeRosa before the season starts. Being overbudget in the offseason doesn't cost you a dime, the paychecks aren't coming yet.
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add me to the list of folks who instantly thought about cindy sandberg when seeing the title of this thread.
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Sell high given his season last year

 

sell high? did you see what we got back for him? if you sell someone high, it's because you think you can get more back than he's worth. these don't look like prospects you get too excited about picking up.

 

I saw that post and figured I better read through this thread before I posted this response.

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The Cubs biggest goal this past offseason was to get more left handed. Mark DeRosa bats with the right hand. End of story.

 

Yup. One way or the other, a righty was gone and a left-handed thumper was on his way. Fukudome and Fontenoy just aren't enough pop from the left side to face a bunch of stud righties in the playoffs. In hindsight, things should've been done differently (though plenty of us have been advocating Hoff over Dlee for some time now) but their plan to get some left-handed thump was spot-on.

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