2010 NFL Draft

[weis21]

I actually like the Matthews pick/trade from the Chargers. From all accounts he's a durable and dynamic back who has great speed, strength and is the clear-cut #2 back behind Spiller. I have my doubts that both Seattle and Houston would have let him slide to #28. They traded their #40 pick, but they only moved up to 40 from 60 thanks to the Whitehurst trade (plus they picked up a 3rd rounder in that trade). On top of that, they moved up 16 spots in the fourth round by swapping with the Dolphins.

 

They really need a NT though and I could see Smith doing some dealing before tomorrow night to move into the second round.

[hawkeyecub]

Didn't read through any of this but damnit I wanted Clausen and we passed on him. Even if no one trades up for him at 33 I don't think we're taking him at 34. If they liked him they wouldn't have taken the risk and would've grabbed him at 30.

 

Give me Taylor Mays if no QB.

[Keener98]

Didn't read through any of this but damnit I wanted Clausen and we passed on him. Even if no one trades up for him at 33 I don't think we're taking him at 34. If they liked him they wouldn't have taken the risk and would've grabbed him at 30.

 

Give me Taylor Mays if no QB.

 

I think Minny is taking Clausen if hes there.

[shnsajax]

Shoulda got Kindle. Don't like that pick.

 

I sent a friend a text that they should draft him. Thought he would have been a nice fit for them.

[hawkeyecub]

Didn't read through any of this but damnit I wanted Clausen and we passed on him. Even if no one trades up for him at 33 I don't think we're taking him at 34. If they liked him they wouldn't have taken the risk and would've grabbed him at 30.

 

Give me Taylor Mays if no QB.

 

I think Minny is taking Clausen if hes there.

 

I hope so but I don't see it. If they liked him I don't think they would take the risk that someone (Cleveland, Buffalo maybe) would trade up to 33 to get him in front of them.

[CubColtPacer]

Didn't read through any of this but damnit I wanted Clausen and we passed on him. Even if no one trades up for him at 33 I don't think we're taking him at 34. If they liked him they wouldn't have taken the risk and would've grabbed him at 30.

 

Give me Taylor Mays if no QB.

 

I think Minny is taking Clausen if hes there.

 

I thought so originally when they just traded down behind teams who didn't need a QB. But why would they give quarterback desperate teams almost 24 hours to make a deal with the Rams? Unless they like Clausen and McCoy equally and so traded back because they don't care which one they get, it doesn't make sense for them to trade back if they were interested in Clausen.

[hawkeyecub]

Didn't read through any of this but damnit I wanted Clausen and we passed on him. Even if no one trades up for him at 33 I don't think we're taking him at 34. If they liked him they wouldn't have taken the risk and would've grabbed him at 30.

 

Give me Taylor Mays if no QB.

 

I think Minny is taking Clausen if hes there.

 

I thought so originally when they just traded down behind teams who didn't need a QB. But why would they give quarterback desperate teams almost 24 hours to make a deal with the Rams? Unless they like Clausen and Mccoy equally and so traded back because they don't care which one they get, it doesn't make sense for them to trade back if they were interested in Clausen.

 

Exactly. In the old format that would have made more sense but not with this much time before the next pick. According to everything (unless it's a total smokescreen) they don't like Colt at all. I have to think they don't like either of them. And if they pass on a guy like Clausen at 30 and end up with some guy like Saffold...

[SpongeWorthy]

I missed all the Tebow shenanigans watching the Bulls game so the Tyson Alualu pick by the Jags was the most astonishing thing to me.

[Guest]

I'm not well versed in cap stuff, especially with the whole capless year thing, but how much would the Vikings stand to save by drafting Clausen in the early 2nd instead of the late 1st?

[SpongeWorthy]

In fact that Alualu pick reeks of a move by a team desperate to skip town. That was like the football equivalent of the spring training invitee list from the first Major League movie.

[dew1679666265]

I actually like the Matthews pick/trade from the Chargers. From all accounts he's a durable and dynamic back who has great speed, strength and is the clear-cut #2 back behind Spiller. I have my doubts that both Seattle and Houston would have let him slide to #28. They traded their #40 pick, but they only moved up to 40 from 60 thanks to the Whitehurst trade (plus they picked up a 3rd rounder in that trade). On top of that, they moved up 16 spots in the fourth round by swapping with the Dolphins.

 

They really need a NT though and I could see Smith doing some dealing before tomorrow night to move into the second round.

 

I don't understand trading up that high. Giving up a second round pick to move up 16 spots when you don't really need to doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think they should have stayed where they were and taken Jahvid Best. Or even taken Dan Williams and then pursued Hardesty/Gerhart/etc.

 

I just don't see that much difference between Best and Mathews and even between them and the Hardesty/Gerhart/etc group.

[SpongeWorthy]

Best wouldn't have made much sense for the Chargers, IMO. With Sproles being the other back you need a guy who can tote the rock a lot and stuff it between the tackles.

 

Best is the sizzle in a 2 back system.

[Mike Aller]

At first I didn't like the Minnesota trade, but I'm starting to like it more and more. If someone doesn't trade up with the Rams, they can either take Clausen, or their second round pick becomes extremely valuable, and they can trade down a few more picks and continue to stockpile draft picks.

[dew1679666265]

I'm not well versed in cap stuff, especially with the whole capless year thing, but how much would the Vikings stand to save by drafting Clausen in the early 2nd instead of the late 1st?

 

It doesn't matter in a capless year. As for contract differences, here's last year's 30th pick and 37th pick:

 

Kenny Britt (30th) - 5 years, $12 mil total, $6 mil guaranteed

 

Alphonso Smith (37th) - 4 years, $4.93 mil total, $2.15 bonus

 

None of the 2nd rounders got more than roughly $2 million in guaranteed money. Every 1st round guy got at least $6 million guaranteed.

[dew1679666265]

Best wouldn't have made much sense for the Chargers, IMO. With Sproles being the other back you need a guy who can tote the rock a lot and stuff it between the tackles.

 

Best is the sizzle in a 2 back system.

 

Yeah, if he can't be a feature back that makes sense. I never got the sense that Best couldn't be a feature back, though. He's not quite the grinder Mathews is, though. I'd still stand pat and target one of the latter group before trading a second round pick for a likely good, but not great, RB.

[SpongeWorthy]

Best is slim, runs pretty upright, and was hurt a few times at Cal.

[dew1679666265]

NSBB mock draft analysis:

 

Our 2nd mock draft was much more accurate than the first, as we got 7 of 32 picks correct in the second one. The teams we got right: Rams, Lions, Bucs, Chiefs, Steelers, Cowboys and Chargers.

 

If you look only at correct position even if the player is wrong, we're closer to 10 of 32 correct.

[TruffleShuffle]

i didn't really watch the draft, but from espn's coverage, i can assume that tim tebow and nobody else was drafted in the first round.

[mhuber92211]

does anyone know how the Seahawks got rid of their 2nd rounder? It says through 2 different teams and I can't find anywhere to back track it.

 

I think it was from the Unger trade last year but I can't remember (and I thought that is why they dont have a 3rd this year)

[imb]

i didn't really watch the draft, but from espn's coverage, i can assume that tim tebow and nobody else was drafted in the first round.

 

most talked about white bronco since oj and ac (i cant take credit for that, heard it on twitter)

[CubbieBum]

i didn't really watch the draft, but from espn's coverage, i can assume that tim tebow and nobody else was drafted in the first round.

 

most talked about white bronco since oj and ac (i cant take credit for that, heard it on twitter)

 

Nice.

[weis21]

Best wouldn't have made much sense for the Chargers, IMO. With Sproles being the other back you need a guy who can tote the rock a lot and stuff it between the tackles.

 

Best is the sizzle in a 2 back system.

 

Yeah, if he can't be a feature back that makes sense. I never got the sense that Best couldn't be a feature back, though. He's not quite the grinder Mathews is, though. I'd still stand pat and target one of the latter group before trading a second round pick for a likely good, but not great, RB.

Yeah, to reiterate what Sponge said, not only do I think they thought his style was a little too similar to Sproles, but I think the bigger question with Best was his durability.

 

It stings to lose that second rounder when they still have that glaring hole at DT, but I think they definitely got the right guy they needed at RB. I still think AJ can swing a deal (Merriman?) to get a second round pick tonight.

[Exile on Waveland]

CCP or Exile, please tell me if that was a good pick by the Colts.

 

I almost picked him in the first mock draft that NSBB did. Like Mathis, he's too small to be a 3 down DE consistently. But he'll be a fantastic 3rd pass rusher for their scheme and that really hurt them in the SB. I definitely think it's a good pick.

 

I'm thrilled. I feel like we perhaps missed the boat in our mock draft -- I initially figured DE but with Polian's talk about the offensive line I leaned that way. I'm really glad Polian didn't take Saffold or Brown (like we did), neither who I think are great value at the end of the first.

 

The Colts really needed a third pass-rushing defensive end. In my opinion, two of their last three playoff losses are directly related to Freeney's injuries and lack of depth at DE (2008 Chargers, 2010 Saints). You can't have a defense so reliant on rushing the passer -- especially from the ends -- and only have two competent ends. I really want overall improvement on the offensive line so they can run the ball better, but another defensive end was the biggest single-position need in my opinion. A great pass rush covers a lot of flaws in a defense.

 

As to Hughes, evidently they are going to use him in the "Joker" role a la Raheem Brock (outside on rushing downs, inside on passing downs). That means they expect to play Freeney, Mathis, and Hughes together on certain downs. Hughes is undersized, but has a great motor and is explosive getting to the quarterback. Sounds like a prototypical Colt. I was surprised end depth wasn't addressed two years ago -- perhaps they expected it to be with fifth-rounder Marcus Howard, but that didn't work out -- and am ecstatic to get another end.

[Exile on Waveland]

Hey dew: great pick for you guys, and outstanding value at No. 16.

 

Also, let's all, in unison, point and laugh at the Jags.

[Magnetic Curses]

could Jon Asamoah fall to the bears? and if he does, do they take him?