Cub prospects in the news

[Guest]

I always love these arguments. I'm saying Epstein is somewhat overrated but did a brilliant job putting together a decent team. Others say Epstein has brilliantly put together a terrible team.

 

I bet you a million internet dollars that this thread would be two pages shorter if you had just said that up front instead of piggy backing on top of arguments saying things that were far more polarizing. What's less clear is if you actually wish the argument had ended two pages earlier.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I always love these arguments. I'm saying Epstein is somewhat overrated but did a brilliant job putting together a decent team. Others say Epstein has brilliantly put together a terrible team.

 

I bet you a million internet dollars that this thread would be two pages shorter if you had just said that up front instead of piggy backing on top of arguments saying things that were far more polarizing.

 

I said it several times in the last 10 pages. It gets overlooked because it's less polarizing.

 

 

What's less clear is if you actually wish the argument had ended two pages earlier.

 

Ideally, the last two pages would still exist but with higher-quality posting.

[imb]

I always love these arguments. I'm saying Epstein is somewhat overrated but did a brilliant job putting together a decent team. Others say Epstein has brilliantly put together a terrible team.

 

I bet you a million internet dollars that this thread would be two pages shorter if you had just said that up front instead of piggy backing on top of arguments saying things that were far more polarizing.

 

I said it several times in the last 10 pages. It gets overlooked because it's less polarizing.

 

 

What's less clear is if you actually wish the argument had ended two pages earlier.

 

Ideally, the last two pages would still exist but with higher-quality posting.

 

And then someone says "it would be if you stopped posting" and then you say "my opinion being different than yours doesn't make it worse," predictably making you out a victim while even more predictably not being about anything.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

while even more predictably not being about anything.

 

You guys like to make fun of some of our dumber posters for having a lack of self-awareness, but this one's a top-10 of all-time.

[imb]

while even more predictably not being about anything.

 

You guys like to make fun of some of our dumber posters for having a lack of self-awareness, but this one's a top-10 of all-time.

 

And again

[EhDubya]

EhDubya 20 min ago: "Holy crap, 3 new pages of prospects in the news... YES!"

 

EhDubya 20 sec ago: "I should find other hobbies"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

EhDubya 20 min ago: "Holy crap, 3 new pages of prospects in the news... YES!"

 

EhDubya 20 sec ago: "I should find other hobbies"

 

Yeah. Normally, I'd have no trouble going another 10 pages, but I feel bad ruining this thread.

 

Edit: Being a *part* of ruining this thread.

[Sammy Sofa]

The only possible way there would be at least 3 new pages with actual news about Cubs prospects in that short amount of time is if their bus crashed or there was some kind of Last Boy Scout-type situation. Edited August 17, 2013 by Sammy Sofa

[Warpticon]

The only possible way there would be at least 3 new pages with actual news about Cubs in that short amount of time is if their bush crashed or there was some kind of Last Boy Scout-type situation.

 

So many ways I could go with this

[Sammy Sofa]

They're a bunch of ungroomed freaks.

[pitchcs]

Kyle has to post just for the sake of posting, right?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Split this into another thread, maybe?

[Guest]

EhDubya 20 min ago: "Holy crap, 3 new pages of prospects in the news... YES!"

 

EhDubya 20 sec ago: "I should find other hobbies"

Took 20 minutes to skim through that?

 

What's funny is that Kyle started off in a perfectly reasonable position, had people call him out for being Kyle and then argued just for the sake of it when nobody was really acknowledging that his original position was reasonable.

 

Wine leads to terrible sentence structure.

[Layoutman]

At some point the organization is going to have to spend prospects to make the club competitive. Collecting talent has been refreshing and it's made the minor league game threads exciting. If anything, Theo's signature so far in his tenure has been to restructure the core pieces of the org and accumulate talent. What will make or break team Theo will be how these talents are spent.

 

It's a whole different ballgame transitioning from playing the waiting game (selling) to actively competing with other orgs for pieces that could put us over the top. Making mistakes spending prospects combined with having some wash out will be the end of the honeymoon.

 

There has yet to be a huge defining trade or huge free agent signing for team Theo to put their footprint on the org. That footprint is coming this offseason and I hope they don't shank it!

[Guest]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21554

 

Javier Baez, SS, Cubs (Double-A Tennessee)

I’ve been fortunate enough to do a lot of radio hits in the Chicago market, and I’m usually asked about the positional depth in the Cubs’ org, and which prospect has the highest ceiling. Baez has long been my answer despite the fact that Baseball Prospectus ranked Almora higher on the pre-season and mid-season lists, mostly due to the fact that Baez was viewed by many to be a high-risk player. The tools are very loud, with elite bat speed at the plate and excellent hands in the field, but the aggressiveness and one-speed-at-all-times approach in all phases of the game painted the picture of an immature player, a prospect that might spoil his future before it has a chance to blossom. After an impressive run in the Florida State League, the blossoming we have eagerly anticipated has taken place after a promotion to Double-A, where Baez already has 26 extra-base hits in his first 40 games. Double-A is a test level, a separator level where pretenders are exposed and future major-league players are uncovered. It’s a small sample but a positive developmental step, and Baez is showing that he is not only prepared for the test but talented enough to excel against much older and wiser competition. He could be a star, a role 7 type with a middle-of-the-order bat and left-side chops in the field. Whatever his future role might be, the Cubs have an extremely valuable commodity in Baez.–-Jason Parks

 

Dillon Maples, RHP, Cubs (Short-Season A Boise)

The oft-maligned 2011 bonus baby has just enjoyed perhaps his best month of professional baseball, following a mid-July demotion to short-season Boise. After a rocky three-walk performance in his Northwest League debut – a relief outing in which he recorded no outs – Maples has rattled off six solid starts, totaling 28 innings, 30 strikeouts, 21 hits, six walks, and just three runs. This past week, Maples put together his most impressive outing yet against Eugene, the Padres’ Northwest League affiliate.

[Guest]

Arisemendy Alcantara: http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130815&content_id=57087088&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc&tcid=tw_article_57087088

[Guest]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

[Guest]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

 

Well, he said Castro is a 45 and Baez could be a 50. Kind of splitting hairs.

[The-Kris-Bryant]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

[Sammy Sofa]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

 

Or else what? It's not like you couldn't fit Bryant, Baez and Soler onto the team when they're ready if Castro and Rizzo are still there. I'm leaving out Vogelbach because he's a fatty fatty fat fat and the NL sucks.

[XZero771679666304]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

 

You keep insinuating that Rizzo is in danger of losing his job to Vogelbach, but I don't think that dog will hunt. Rizzo, imo, is only going to get better (he's still quite young, remember). I think he'd have to get worse before we got into "he batter watch out for Vogelbach" territory.

[XZero771679666304]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

 

Or else what? It's not like you couldn't fit Bryant, Baez and Soler onto the team when they're ready if Castro and Rizzo are still there. I'm leaving out Vogelbach because he's a fatty fatty fat fat and the NL sucks.

 

I still think Bryant/Soler end up on the OF corners.

 

I'm pretty sure he's saying Vogelbach is the threat to Rizzo. That said, if you'd consider Abreu as a 1B option, you'd have to say Vogelbach would be too.

[Sammy Sofa]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

 

Or else what? It's not like you couldn't fit Bryant, Baez and Soler onto the team when they're ready if Castro and Rizzo are still there. I'm leaving out Vogelbach because he's a fatty fatty fat fat and the NL sucks.

 

I still think Bryant/Soler end up on the OF corners.

 

I'm pretty sure he's saying Vogelbach is the threat to Rizzo. That said, if you'd consider Abreu as a 1B option, you'd have to say Vogelbach would be too.

 

I'd be willing to give Abreu a shot because of the outlier chance he's a God-bat. Vogelbach isn't that guy.

[bukie]

Cubs-related Q&A with Jim Callis: http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2013/08/19/interview-with-jim-callis-of-baseball-america/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheViewFromTheBleachers+%28View+From+The+Bleachers%29

 

Really interesting that he likes Baez's SS defense to wind up better than Castro's.

And his comment that Bryant, Baez, Soler and Vogelbach have 40 HR power. Ie Rizzo and Castro better get their crap together.

 

You keep insinuating that Rizzo is in danger of losing his job to Vogelbach, but I don't think that dog will hunt. Rizzo, imo, is only going to get better (he's still quite young, remember). I think he'd have to get worse before we got into "he batter watch out for Vogelbach" territory.

I for one enjoy the irony of the guy who keeps harping on new toy syndrome (to the point of bumping his own threads to pat himself on the back) constantly ready to replace the productive young major leaguers at a moment's notice.