Cub prospects in the news

[jersey cubs fan]

I always feel like people forget just how good Corey was in 2003/04.

 

Also, with his draft status, tools and the production he put up in Lansing at 19 and West Tenn at 20, he would have a top 5 prospect in pretty much any year. He even had a pretty decent walk rate in West Tenn at age 20.

 

His draft status was at least partially dependent on the guys running the Cubs at the time drafting him when they did, and they couldn't find a bat if it was being swung at their head.

I always feel like people forget just how good Corey was in 2003/04.

 

Yeah, you said that. I think most people forget because they don't pay attention to what happened a decade ago to guys who produced for such a short period of time. I think those of us who pay close attention to the Cubs and their prospects remember what he did. He showed some signs, but it was brief and he played for probably the absolutely wrong organization if he wanted to make a more substantial career out of what he did.

[imb]

Jason Parks @ProfessorParks

Three #Cubs in the top 30; would be four w/ Bryant. Impressive. RT @Sletizia7 @ProfessorParks how many cubs in the top 25?

 

Wow. Not too shabby at all.

 

Weak. A few days ago he said they'd have 4 top 25 with Bryant.

 

4 in the top 25 is technically still 4 in the top 30.

[bukie]

If anything, I take it as more of a sign of the Cubs' awful prospect development than a sign of how low the hit% is on highly touted Cub position prospects.

[Guest]

I always feel like people forget just how good Corey was in 2003/04.

 

Also, with his draft status, tools and the production he put up in Lansing at 19 and West Tenn at 20, he would have a top 5 prospect in pretty much any year. He even had a pretty decent walk rate in West Tenn at age 20.

 

His draft status was at least partially dependent on the guys running the Cubs at the time drafting him when they did, and they couldn't find a bat if it was being swung at their head.

I always feel like people forget just how good Corey was in 2003/04.

 

Yeah, you said that. I think most people forget because they don't pay attention to what happened a decade ago to guys who produced for such a short period of time. I think those of us who pay close attention to the Cubs and their prospects remember what he did. He showed some signs, but it was brief and he played for probably the absolutely wrong organization if he wanted to make a more substantial career out of what he did.

.298/.329/.511/.840 and a .355 wOBA with 2.4 WAR in 2003 (in 347 PA). Then he actually got better (though unluckier on BABIP) in 2004 and posted a 4.9 WAR.

 

Hendry did a fine job finding a bat. His mistake was hiring Dusty Baker who ruined Patterson trying to turn him into a singles-hitting leadoff man.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hendry did a fine job finding a bat. His mistake was hiring Dusty Baker who ruined Patterson trying to turn him into a singles-hitting leadoff man.

 

It's going to be hilarious if the current regime manages the exact same result with Starlin Castro with the opposite methods.

[Guest]

Hendry did a fine job finding a bat. His mistake was hiring Dusty Baker who ruined Patterson trying to turn him into a singles-hitting leadoff man.

 

It's going to be hilarious if the current regime manages the exact same result with Starlin Castro with the opposite methods.

I won't find it that funny.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hendry did a fine job finding a bat. His mistake was hiring Dusty Baker who ruined Patterson trying to turn him into a singles-hitting leadoff man.

 

Don Baylor started that.

[Guest]

@ProfessorParks: I'm surprised more people don't view #Cubs CF Albert Almora as a legit top 15 prospect in the game. Legit five-tool talent.

 

@TheCubsGuy: @ProfessorParks seen him play in person much??

 

@ProfessorParks: @TheCubsGuy Not as much as I would like; views on amateur side and complex; get reports from scouts and dev. 6 sources on him this year.

 

@Mike_Cumm: @ProfessorParks he has no power

 

@ProfessorParks: @Mike_Cumm Good hitters develop power; he's also 19 years-old and coming off a hamate injury. He has legit pop.

 

@ContrarioMan: @ProfessorParks Do you think Almora's going to stay at Kane County this season? He was DL'd when I saw them, & hope to see them again.

 

@ProfessorParks: @ContrarioMan He was slowed by the injury, so its hard to say. I think he will move faster than most 19 y/o, but no harm in staying in Low-A

 

@ProfessorParks: It's close. Almora's instincts for the game. RT @WisconsinRob @ProfessorParks what makes you like Almora more than Baez (even if its close)?

 

@ProfessorParks: Yes. I would still rank Almora and Baez over Bryant. RT @sguglie2 @ProfessorParks  When Bryant signs will Almora still be number one?

 

@IAmNateDouglas: @ProfessorParks How would you rank Almora, Soler, Baez and Bryant solely on bat?

 

@ProfessorParks: @IAmNateDouglas Bat potential? Baez, Bryant, Soler, Almora. On ceiling? Baez, Almora, Bryant, Soler. On glove? Almora, Baez, Bryant, Soler

 

Sounds like he's lowest on Soler amongst the big four.

[Warpticon]

Soler 4th with the glove? That sounds...odd.

[Guest]

Given Baez's strides in being considered a SS, the only real question is between Soler and Bryant, of which there's admittedly a good bit of disagreement.

[ctcf]

From the Baseball Prospectus Mid-Season Top 50:

 

#15 CF Albert Almora (Cubs)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #18

Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: Low-A Kane County

Prospect Trajectory: Up; Almora is a legit five-tool talent who comes with an incredible feel for the game; has top tier potential.

Major League ETA: 2015

 

#17 SS Javier Baez (Cubs)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #20

Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: High-A Daytona

Prospect Trajectory: Up; has the offensive upside to become of the top prospects in the game; high risk and chance for regression at Double-A level.

Major League ETA: 2015

 

#31 OF Jorge Soler (Cubs)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #36

Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: High-A Daytona

Prospect Trajectory: Up; Soler’s power is legit, and as he matures at the plate, he will continue to tap into the tool in game action; lacks elite upside, but could jump up the list if the power plays. People love power.

Major League ETA: 2015

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Not even four in the top 30 after all that? weak.

[Guest]

Not even four in the top 30 after all that? weak.

 

He's gonna have hell to pay in that chat of his.

 

And that's without even including Bryant. [-(

[Guest]

@ProfessorParks: Yes. Most likely a Top 25 prospect. RT @MRubio52 @ProfessorParks would Kris Bryant have made this list if he was signed?

[sneakypower]

bullpen banter released a midseason update too

 

Almora, Soler, Baez & Bryant came in at 16, 18, 19 & 26, respectively

[imb]

bullpen banter released a midseason update too

 

Almora, Soler, Baez & Bryant came in at 16, 18, 19 & 26, respectively

 

Lindor at 5?

[Guest]

bullpen banter released a midseason update too

 

Almora, Soler, Baez & Bryant came in at 16, 18, 19 & 26, respectively

 

Wow. I can't believe how high everyone is on Almora already. Not that I don't dig it.

[Guest]

bullpen banter released a midseason update too

 

Almora, Soler, Baez & Bryant came in at 16, 18, 19 & 26, respectively

 

Lindor at 5?

 

Parks has him at 4.

[imb]

is this the same thing everyone did when andrus signed his contract and you go "oh yeah well he'll never slug higher than 400 but since he can field the position without falling over and dying it's a great deal!"

[TruffleShuffle]

I feel like Patterson wouldn't be ranked as highly today as he was back then.

 

That or at least his development would be handled better. IDK.

 

i dunno, a guy who goes for .320/.358/.592/.949 in full season ball at age 19, given his draft pedigree and set of tools, is pretty much guaranteed to be top 5. he really got rushed through the high minors though. the fact that his numbers were getting progressively worse with no improvement in his K/BB rates should have been a red flag.

[Elrhino]

Wonder how close Pierce Johnson is to making these midseason lists. You would think a supplemental first rounder who has made it up to AA in a year with his BB and K rates would be knocking on the door.

[jersey cubs fan]

Wonder how close Pierce Johnson is to making these midseason lists. You would think a supplemental first rounder who has made it up to AA in a year with his BB and K rates would be knocking on the door.

 

He's only in A+, right?

 

He was also the 43rd pick last year and has only 86 pro innings pitched. So his pedigree doesn't really tell you much in terms of comparing him to all other guys taken in the first the past two years, plus all international signings. And his track record as a pro is minimal.

[TruffleShuffle]

Wonder how close Pierce Johnson is to making these midseason lists. You would think a supplemental first rounder who has made it up to AA in a year with his BB and K rates would be knocking on the door.

 

i would think that alcantara would be closer, given that he's in the top 10 in OPS in a AA league, plays a premium defensive position and is only 21 years old. johnson is 22, only just getting to A+, and has allowed a hit per inning. plus his K rate is good but doesn't suggest that he's been overpowering. the #50 guy on the BP list, for example, has a better K rate, lower walk rate, lower hit rate, and is only 19.

[TruffleShuffle]

Pitching Prospect of the Day: Alberto Cabrera, RHP, Cubs (Double-A Tennessee): 8.0 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 13 K; plus-plus fastball with life; potential solid-average slider; potential average changeup. The problem with Cabrera is that he has been very inconsistent in his minor league career. Cabrera has performed well thus far in 2013 and will hope to stay as a starter moving forward; 91.2 IP, 88 H, 36 ER, 34 BB, 94 K in 15 starts.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Man, I hope we can at least get a high-leverage reliever out of him.