Cub prospects in the news

[wekim81]

Sarcasm?

OK. Fair enough. It was tough to tell. Well played.

[ctcf]

Your BA Midseason Top 50 is out. 3 Cubs in the Top 20

 

10 Javier Baez ss Cubs

Earlier this year became second Florida State Leaguer to hit four home runs in one game.

 

16 Albert Almora of Cubs

Missed first month with hamate injury, but has made up for lost time since returning.

 

18 Jorge Soler of Cubs

Will miss two months with stress fracture, but talent is too good to ignore.

 

http://ht.ly/mKHDR

[TruffleShuffle]

ba top 50 prospects: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-top-50-prospects/

 

10 Javier Baez ss Cubs

Earlier this year became second Florida State Leaguer to hit four home runs in one game.

 

16 Albert Almora of Cubs

Missed first month with hamate injury, but has made up for lost time since returning.

 

18 Jorge Soler of Cubs

Will miss two months with stress fracture, but talent is too good to ignore.

 

ETA - [expletive] you, CT.

[ctcf]

hahaha

[BeerHere]

BA also listed Vizcaino at #83

 

"Recovering from Tommy John surgery."

[Guest]

BA Prospect Notebook[/url]"]Albert Almora, of, Cubs: Few hitters in the minors are blessed with Almora’s bat control, smooth swing and plate coverage. His hitting approach is advanced for a 19-year-old and his game awareness is strong in all aspects of the game. Almora went 6-for-10 with a home run, a triple and a walk since Friday, raising his slash line with low Class A Kane County to .353/.387/.519 through 38 games of an injury-shortened season. He doesn’t have the electrifying bat speed or raw power of Javier Baez, but his ability to hit and play excellent defense in center field have helped him become the No. 16 prospect in baseball.

[Guest]

BA's best prospect, biggest leap forward and backwards in the Cubs system, respectively, are:

 

Javier Baez

Alberto Cabrera

Brett Jackson

 

Phil Rogers needs to stop contributing for BA:

 

BIGGEST LEAP FORWARD: This selection had been second baseman Ronald Torreyes, a 20-year-old second baseman who had hit his way to Double-A. Then the Cubs used Torreyes in a July 2 deal that sent him to the Astros for two international bonus slots. With Torreyes traded, the biggest leap goes to righthander Alberto Cabrera, who returned to the rotation at age 24 after a year in the bullpen and was leading the Southern League in strikeouts. He was 7-3, 3.49 with 97 whiffs in 98 innings.

 

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-javier-baez-impresses-during-first-half/

[Guest]

Torreyes? WTH?

 

 

Anyway, if you were to assume that BA's list is Jim Callis's list (which I'm not sure is a safe assumption), his comment on Kris Bryant (that he was the best prospect in the Cubs' system) last month would make him a top 10 prospect in baseball. Then again, Javy was really good over the last month.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

How is Kyle Hendricks not the biggest step forward? Or even Alcantara for that matter.

[Cubswin11]

How is Kyle Hendricks not the biggest step forward? Or even Alcantara for that matter.

Because, well, Phil Rogers

[TruffleShuffle]

ronald torreyes in 2012: .264/.326/.385/.711

ronald torreyes in 2013 (with cubs): .260/.337/.381/.718

 

hell of a "leap" forward.

[Cubswin11]

I wonder if Rogers got Torreyes and Alcantara mixed up? But the mention of the trade to Houston makes me think not, unless he also thinks it was Alcatara traded.

[TruffleShuffle]

Pitching Prospect of the Day: Matt Loosen, RHP, Cubs (High-A Daytona): 9.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 9 K. Loosen has tightened up his delivery in the best way possible. He has improved his line to the plate and his stuff has taken steps forward. He utilizes a fastball that touches the mid 90s, a solid-average curveball, a usable slider, and a fringy changeup. Loosen is taking steps forward as a prospect, and this outing will be one he never forgets.

 

OF Eloy Jimenez

The Cubs have been linked to Jimenez for a very long time, and when the sides come together to finalize the deal, the 6’4’’ power bat will receive a bonus in the ballpark of $2.8M, making him the most expensive talent in the market. I know the power is legit and the DR showcase proved this, but some scouts I spoke with questioned his bat-to-ball skills in game action, a common scouting statement when you are dealing with 16-year-olds with skill sets tailored for the showcase circuit. However, the makeup reports on Jimenez are outstanding, an uncommon scouting statement when you are dealing with 16-year-olds attempting to act in a professional capacity. –Jason Parks

 

SS Gleybar Torres (Cubs)

When I called around to get opinions on Torres, the Venezuelan shortstop received the best reviews of anyone, with at least one scout referring to him as a five-tool talent and a good candidate to develop into a top-tier talent in the minors. Torres is loaded with potential, from the smooth actions at short, to the strong arm, to the contact ability and power potential at the plate. The 16-year-old was paid like a premium talent, his raw tools point to a premium talent, and now he just has to develop into a premium talent at the professional level. The latter is much easier said than done, but most players don’t start off with the physical gifts and instincts to make it possible- Jason Parks

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

f, wrong thread Edited July 10, 2013 by Tangled Up in Plaid

[ctcf]

Pitching Prospect of the Day: Matt Loosen, RHP, Cubs (High-A Daytona): 9.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 9 K. Loosen has tightened up his delivery in the best way possible. He has improved his line to the plate and his stuff has taken steps forward. He utilizes a fastball that touches the mid 90s, a solid-average curveball, a usable slider, and a fringy changeup. Loosen is taking steps forward as a prospect, and this outing will be one he never forgets.

 

OF Eloy Jimenez

The Cubs have been linked to Jimenez for a very long time, and when the sides come together to finalize the deal, the 6’4’’ power bat will receive a bonus in the ballpark of $2.8M, making him the most expensive talent in the market. I know the power is legit and the DR showcase proved this, but some scouts I spoke with questioned his bat-to-ball skills in game action, a common scouting statement when you are dealing with 16-year-olds with skill sets tailored for the showcase circuit. However, the makeup reports on Jimenez are outstanding, an uncommon scouting statement when you are dealing with 16-year-olds attempting to act in a professional capacity. –Jason Parks

 

SS Gleybar Torres (Cubs)

When I called around to get opinions on Torres, the Venezuelan shortstop received the best reviews of anyone, with at least one scout referring to him as a five-tool talent and a good candidate to develop into a top-tier talent in the minors. Torres is loaded with potential, from the smooth actions at short, to the strong arm, to the contact ability and power potential at the plate. The 16-year-old was paid like a premium talent, his raw tools point to a premium talent, and now he just has to develop into a premium talent at the professional level. The latter is much easier said than done, but most players don’t start off with the physical gifts and instincts to make it possible- Jason Parks

 

swoon

[davell]

It's actually pretty absurd that in THIS crap-ass system, with the new CBA, we somehow managed to get the TWO best prospects out of it.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's actually pretty absurd that in THIS crap-ass system, with the new CBA, we somehow managed to get the TWO best prospects out of it.

 

I don't really see it as being absurd at all. The Cubs are a huge revenue generating team and they've cut spending a huge amount. They have focused exclusively on acquiring prospects, and had the 2nd most slot space available to them, while Houston obviously wasn't that interested in using all of theirs since they traded it.

 

They've got the resources and a willingness to go big on these types of guys, plus a desperate desire to add any prospect they can find that most teams don't have.

[UMFan83]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

[davell]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

They sign 2014 contracts actually. Unless they're older, like Mejia. They may get a taste of EXST over the offseason and its possible if they're advanced enough, they could start out in Arizona. Highly doubtful though. More than one year in the Dominican League for those 2 would be a big disappointment. FWIW, Jimenez and Torres will both show up on BA's top 30. Likely in the late teens to mid 20 range. Parks said he'll consider both for his Cubs top 15.

[Guest]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

They sign 2014 contracts actually. Unless they're older, like Mejia. They may get a taste of EXST over the offseason and its possible if they're advanced enough, they could start out in Arizona. Highly doubtful though. More than one year in the Dominican League for those 2 would be a big disappointment. FWIW, Jimenez and Torres will both show up on BA's top 30. Likely in the late teens to mid 20 range. Parks said he'll consider both for his Cubs top 15.

 

Generally a couple of the top 16-year olds start off in the complex leagues the year after they sign (for example, Baretto is in the GCL this year), but I feel like the Cubs under Theo seem are willing to go slower.

 

Off the top of my head, Larry Suarez, Carlos Zambrano and Felix Pie are the only 16-year olds who signed and jumped to the AZL in their first year in the Cubs system.

 

ETA: Forgot Felix Pie.

[ctcf]

Can you imagine what Zambrano must have been like at 16?

[jersey cubs fan]

Can you imagine what Zambrano must have been like at 16?

 

Oscar Acosta knew he was never 16.

[UMFan83]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

They sign 2014 contracts actually. Unless they're older, like Mejia. They may get a taste of EXST over the offseason and its possible if they're advanced enough, they could start out in Arizona. Highly doubtful though. More than one year in the Dominican League for those 2 would be a big disappointment. FWIW, Jimenez and Torres will both show up on BA's top 30. Likely in the late teens to mid 20 range. Parks said he'll consider both for his Cubs top 15.

 

Generally a couple of the top 16-year olds start off in the complex leagues the year after they sign (for example, Baretto is in the GCL this year), but I feel like the Cubs under Theo seem are willing to go slower.

 

Off the top of my head, Larry Suarez, Carlos Zambrano and Felix Pie are the only 16-year olds who signed and jumped to the AZL in their first year in the Cubs system.

 

ETA: Forgot Felix Pie.

 

thanks guys

[Gmoney08]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

They sign 2014 contracts actually. Unless they're older, like Mejia. They may get a taste of EXST over the offseason and its possible if they're advanced enough, they could start out in Arizona. Highly doubtful though. More than one year in the Dominican League for those 2 would be a big disappointment. FWIW, Jimenez and Torres will both show up on BA's top 30. Likely in the late teens to mid 20 range. Parks said he'll consider both for his Cubs top 15.

 

Generally a couple of the top 16-year olds start off in the complex leagues the year after they sign (for example, Baretto is in the GCL this year), but I feel like the Cubs under Theo seem are willing to go slower.

 

Off the top of my head, Larry Suarez, Carlos Zambrano and Felix Pie are the only 16-year olds who signed and jumped to the AZL in their first year in the Cubs system.

 

ETA: Forgot Felix Pie.

 

Has there ever been a team that threw an extremely talented 16 or 17 year old in Single or Double A? Is there any rare talents like that who had great success in the minors at 16, 17..?

Edited July 11, 2013 by Gmoney08

[TruffleShuffle]

Someone with more knowledge please enlighten me. Where do the 16 year old international signees go from here? My assumption would be they would probably spend 2 years in the Dominican Academy before going over to AZL/rest of the minors?

 

How long until they are considered actual prospects who slot in somewhere in a team's system ranking lists?

They sign 2014 contracts actually. Unless they're older, like Mejia. They may get a taste of EXST over the offseason and its possible if they're advanced enough, they could start out in Arizona. Highly doubtful though. More than one year in the Dominican League for those 2 would be a big disappointment. FWIW, Jimenez and Torres will both show up on BA's top 30. Likely in the late teens to mid 20 range. Parks said he'll consider both for his Cubs top 15.

 

Generally a couple of the top 16-year olds start off in the complex leagues the year after they sign (for example, Baretto is in the GCL this year), but I feel like the Cubs under Theo seem are willing to go slower.

 

Off the top of my head, Larry Suarez, Carlos Zambrano and Felix Pie are the only 16-year olds who signed and jumped to the AZL in their first year in the Cubs system.

 

ETA: Forgot Felix Pie.

 

Has there ever been a team that through an extremely talented 16 or 17 year old in Single or Double A? Is there any rare talents like that who had great success in the minors at 16, 17..?

 

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=628711

 

also it's not exactly what you asked for, but felix hernandez utterly dominated the top hitter's league in baseball (california league, high A ball) and then another hitter's league (texas league, AA) at age 18.