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Alcantara should not be anywhere near that low, recent struggles aside.

He's 8th? The highest he can possibly is 5. I have him 6 behind Pierce Johnson. "Not anywhere near that low" is not accurate.

 

He should be solidly 5th.

 

5th - 8th isn't an enormous gulf.

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Alcantara should not be anywhere near that low, recent struggles aside.

He's 8th? The highest he can possibly is 5. I have him 6 behind Pierce Johnson. "Not anywhere near that low" is not accurate.

 

He should be solidly 5th.

 

5th - 8th isn't an enormous gulf.

 

It is when 5, 6, and 7 have no business being ahead of him.

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Alcantara should not be anywhere near that low, recent struggles aside.

He's 8th? The highest he can possibly is 5. I have him 6 behind Pierce Johnson. "Not anywhere near that low" is not accurate.

 

He should be solidly 5th.

 

5th - 8th isn't an enormous gulf.

 

It is when 5, 6, and 7 have no business being ahead of him.

 

It's just a list. What's the point of having different ones if people are going to flip out over trivial differences in rankings?

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It's just a list. What's the point of having different ones if people are going to flip out over trivial differences in rankings?

 

Who is flipping out?

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Ask BA[/url]"]On the 20-80 scouting scale, the mediocre 2013 draft crop rated as a 40 or 45. But as in any draft, there were talented players available, and I see six who would have cracked our midseason Top 50 had they been eligible:

 

Kris Bryant, 3b, Cubs (No. 2 overall). Bryant led NCAA Division I with 31 homers this spring, a record for the BBCOR bat era and more than 223 of the 296 teams at that level. I think he’s the best prospect in a deep Chicago system, and thus I’d put him at No. 10, between shortstops Carlos Correa (Astros) and Javier Baez (Cubs).

 

Now that Matt Garza is headed to Texas, about where would you rank third baseman Mike Olt and righthander C.J. Edwards on the Cubs top prospects list? In addition, what does the Rangers top prospects list look like now?

 

J.P. Schwartz

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With all of their draft and international signings and trade acquisitions, the Cubs are putting together one of the best farm systems in the game. I’m still bullish on Olt despite the vision issues that torpedoed the start of his season, but he’d go from ranking No. 22 on BA’s Top 100 Prospects list to fifth overall among Chicago farmhands. I’d put third baseman Kris Bryant, shortstop Javier Baez and outfielders Albert Almora and Jorge Soler ahead of Olt.

 

Edwards has been a revelation since signing as a 48th-round pick out of a South Carolina high school in 2011, and he currently ranks third in the minors in ERA (1.74) and strikeouts (130) and fourth in strikeouts per nine innings (11.9). His fastball is unhittable at times, thanks to a combination of velocity (low 90s with a peak of 98 mph) and outstanding life.

C.J. Edwards

 

He’s still polishing his secondary pitches and his command, and he has made a grand total of one start above low Class A, so I’d caution about getting too crazy about Edwards. But there’s no question that he and Pierce Johnson are the Cubs’ best pitching prospects. Edwards would rank with Johnson, first baseman Dan Vogelbach and infielder Arismendy Alcantara in the 6-10 range on Chicago’s prospect list.

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I can't believe Callis would put Bryant ahead of Almora, Baez, and Soler.

I hope he is right. Because that means he feels that strongly about the potential of Bryant even after the accomplishments thus far of Almora, Baez, and Soler. If he is right the Cubs have as strong of an argument for the best farm system in baseball as anyone.

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I can't believe Callis would put Bryant ahead of Almora, Baez, and Soler.

I hope he is right. Because that means he feels that strongly about the potential of Bryant even after the accomplishments thus far of Almora, Baez, and Soler. If he is right the Cubs have as strong of an argument for the best farm system in baseball as anyone.

He's a big fan of Bryant:

 

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisBA 7h

See him as RF w/huge power. Stanton works as ceiling. @theblogfines: your own Bryant ceiling comp? Glaus? Stanton without the AVG? #Cubs

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Baez

Almora

Bryant

Soler

Olt

Alcantara

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Man, any time I put a Cubs logo on the site I get an email from the mlb lawyers.
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Man, any time I put a Cubs logo on the site I get an email from the mlb lawyers.

 

i dont think he has any ads

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Man, any time I put a Cubs logo on the site I get an email from the mlb lawyers.

 

You can't even post a damn logo on a website without express written consent of major league baseball?

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1. Prospect: Mike Olt

From: Rangers to Cubs

Position: 3B

Notes: The de facto top prospect prize moved this summer, Olt was once a no-brainer top 50 talent, but struggles at the plate have depressed his value, and the Rangers made him expendable in the deal for Matt Garza. The ceiling is still in the first-division range, with an average hit tool but legit over-the-fence power potential, the kind that is quite appealing given his above-average defensive profile at third base. The downside is a hit tool that might fail to play up to average and could limit the utility of his power, making him an exploitable target of higher-level pitching. I’d put a role 5 on him, with some risk given the questions about the bat-to-ball ability.

 

3. Prospect: C.J. Edwards

From: Rangers to Cubs

Position: RHP

Notes: Opinions vary on the young arm, but having put eyes on him on numerous occasions, I think the statistical success on the field paints a picture of a prospect with more impact potential than the scouting reports might suggest. The arm is super loose and easy, and I love the way the ball comes out of his hand, working in the low-to-mid 90s with good movement. The curveball can get big, and as with any curveball (especially at the higher level), it’s a pitch predicated on a hitter wanting to swing, which puts pressure on the arm to locate the fastball early in counts. The curve has good shape and projects to be at least an average offering, but a tough pitch to lean on against advanced bats.

 

Edwards’ body might be his biggest hurdle, as the lengthy frame is very thin and doesn’t project to hold much weight. It’s hard to envision that body holding 200-plus innings year after year without breaking down, regardless of the fluid delivery. I think he could be a no. 4 starter, but might have more impact potential in a late-inning capacity, where his fastball could work in the plus-plus range. Role 5 for me, with a moderate risk because of the body and lack of a secondary pitch that projects as a true plus weapon.

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Say what you want about Parks or Law, but I love the info they give out. OTOH, Sickels does nothing outside of K rates and age versus level stuff that many here can do. Reading his midseason update on our system gave literally no insight whatsoever that isn't talked about on here daily.
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he tweeted Avi Garcia would have been #1 had he qualified

 

What is Garcia's appeal? Horrendous plate discipline, moderate power and numbers artificially inflated by a ridiculously high BABIP. How is he really all that different than Junior Lake?

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1. Prospect: Mike Olt

Edwards’ body might be his biggest hurdle, as the lengthy frame is very thin and doesn’t project to hold much weight. It’s hard to envision that body holding 200-plus innings year after year without breaking down, regardless of the fluid delivery. I think he could be a no. 4 starter, but might have more impact potential in a late-inning capacity, where his fastball could work in the plus-plus range. Role 5 for me, with a moderate risk because of the body and lack of a secondary pitch that projects as a true plus weapon.

 

Pardon my ignorance but what's Role 5?

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1. Prospect: Mike Olt

Edwards’ body might be his biggest hurdle, as the lengthy frame is very thin and doesn’t project to hold much weight. It’s hard to envision that body holding 200-plus innings year after year without breaking down, regardless of the fluid delivery. I think he could be a no. 4 starter, but might have more impact potential in a late-inning capacity, where his fastball could work in the plus-plus range. Role 5 for me, with a moderate risk because of the body and lack of a secondary pitch that projects as a true plus weapon.

 

Pardon my ignorance but what's Role 5?

A very solid player. Good enough to start on a contending team with a few All Star caliber seasons.

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