Sources: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in '03

[fivepercent]

This makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Am I the only one who doesn't care at all who has done steroids, especially 6 years ago now? Don't care about Bonds, or Clemens, or McGwire, or A-Rod, or whoever else they want to say tested positive. The fact that this gets so much attention irritates me to no end.

 

What drives me nuts about it more than anything else is how baseball is treated differently from football and basketball. This will ruin A-Rod's reputation. This will only add more ammunition to the people who argue that everyone in baseball is on steroids and is a cheater. It will hurt baseball.

 

However, nobody talks about basketball and football in the same way. Cripes, Shawne Merriman testing positive got very little attention. When the Williams DTs tested positive for a banned substance, everyone automatically believed them when they said it was for a weight loss drug. No one seems to notice when guys in both sports look like they belong in professional wrestling. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL and NBA were just as tainted by the PEDs scandal. Yet, nobody says a freaking thing about it.

 

However, this will lead to another Congressional hearing with another player's career destroyed. It'll be sickening and a waste of money.

 

I just dont get this thought process. I definitely agree that the NFL gets a pass. Is it fair? No, but it doesnt have to be. Who cares if it hurts baseball? Baseball hurt itself by ignoring the problem and then trying to act like the problem was never really that big of a problem. Who cares if it destroys a players career? Anyone who cheats should have their career destroyed.

[Cubbies2238]

This makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Am I the only one who doesn't care at all who has done steroids, especially 6 years ago now? Don't care about Bonds, or Clemens, or McGwire, or A-Rod, or whoever else they want to say tested positive. The fact that this gets so much attention irritates me to no end.

 

What drives me nuts about it more than anything else is how baseball is treated differently from football and basketball. This will ruin A-Rod's reputation. This will only add more ammunition to the people who argue that everyone in baseball is on steroids and is a cheater. It will hurt baseball.

 

However, nobody talks about basketball and football in the same way. Cripes, Shawne Merriman testing positive got very little attention. When the Williams DTs tested positive for a banned substance, everyone automatically believed them when they said it was for a weight loss drug. No one seems to notice when guys in both sports look like they belong in professional wrestling. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL and NBA were just as tainted by the PEDs scandal. Yet, nobody says a freaking thing about it.

 

However, this will lead to another Congressional hearing with another player's career destroyed. It'll be sickening and a waste of money.

 

I just dont get this thought process. I definitely agree that the NFL gets a pass. Is it fair? No, but it doesnt have to be. Who cares if it hurts baseball? Baseball hurt itself by ignoring the problem and then trying to act like the problem was never really that big of a problem. Who cares if it destroys a players career? Anyone who cheats should have their career destroyed.

 

What drove me nuts about Merriman was that when he won defensive player of the year everybody thought it was great because he missed four games.

[hawkcub]

This makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Am I the only one who doesn't care at all who has done steroids, especially 6 years ago now? Don't care about Bonds, or Clemens, or McGwire, or A-Rod, or whoever else they want to say tested positive. The fact that this gets so much attention irritates me to no end.

 

What drives me nuts about it more than anything else is how baseball is treated differently from football and basketball. This will ruin A-Rod's reputation. This will only add more ammunition to the people who argue that everyone in baseball is on steroids and is a cheater. It will hurt baseball.

 

However, nobody talks about basketball and football in the same way. Cripes, Shawne Merriman testing positive got very little attention. When the Williams DTs tested positive for a banned substance, everyone automatically believed them when they said it was for a weight loss drug. No one seems to notice when guys in both sports look like they belong in professional wrestling. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL and NBA were just as tainted by the PEDs scandal. Yet, nobody says a freaking thing about it.

 

However, this will lead to another Congressional hearing with another player's career destroyed. It'll be sickening and a waste of money.

 

It's about timing. Right now there is little going on in sports. So a big deal will be made out of this. In pre-season for football it's the same time as division races in base ball are heating up. In basketball preseason happens when football is nearing mid-season (pro and college) also we are in League Championship's and the World Series for Baseball.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's the different natures of football and baseball.

 

Football is a game to bet on, a game where you don't get as attached to players because they have shorter careers and wear helmets covering their faces, a game with relatively little history attached to it.

 

Baseball is (overly) romanticized for its history and its players are expected to be mythic figures.

[Derwood]

I have no idea what is to be gained by any of this

 

Bonds, ARod, Clemens, and McGwire won't make the HOF. That is certainly something to be gained.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more

[Wilson A2000]

I have no idea what is to be gained by any of this

 

Bonds, ARod, Clemens, and McGwire won't make the HOF. That is certainly something to be gained.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more

 

And I couldn't with you.

[Sammy Sofa]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

[ISUCubsFan]

This makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Am I the only one who doesn't care at all who has done steroids, especially 6 years ago now? Don't care about Bonds, or Clemens, or McGwire, or A-Rod, or whoever else they want to say tested positive. The fact that this gets so much attention irritates me to no end.

 

What drives me nuts about it more than anything else is how baseball is treated differently from football and basketball. This will ruin A-Rod's reputation. This will only add more ammunition to the people who argue that everyone in baseball is on steroids and is a cheater. It will hurt baseball.

 

However, nobody talks about basketball and football in the same way. Cripes, Shawne Merriman testing positive got very little attention. When the Williams DTs tested positive for a banned substance, everyone automatically believed them when they said it was for a weight loss drug. No one seems to notice when guys in both sports look like they belong in professional wrestling. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL and NBA were just as tainted by the PEDs scandal. Yet, nobody says a freaking thing about it.

 

However, this will lead to another Congressional hearing with another player's career destroyed. It'll be sickening and a waste of money.

 

I just dont get this thought process. I definitely agree that the NFL gets a pass. Is it fair? No, but it doesnt have to be. Who cares if it hurts baseball? Baseball hurt itself by ignoring the problem and then trying to act like the problem was never really that big of a problem. Who cares if it destroys a players career? Anyone who cheats should have their career destroyed.

 

What drove me nuts about Merriman was that when he won defensive player of the year everybody thought it was great because he missed four games.

 

He didn't end up winning DPOY, but yeah it was pretty funny seeing ESPN discuss if he should win and then talk about Bonds, Clemens, etc. in the same show.

[Wilson A2000]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

[badnews]

SHAWNE MERRIMAN LIGHTS OUT OMFG

 

Yeah that gets me too. In baseball using steroids, really, is about akin to being a sex offender. In football, who gives a damn. Doesn't make sense to me. Although I have to admit, personally I love to see that bastard Roger Clemens twist in the wind. Ha ha ha.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

 

Everyone uses substances. It's just a matter of which substance is on which arbtirary list.

[wade]

This makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Am I the only one who doesn't care at all who has done steroids, especially 6 years ago now? Don't care about Bonds, or Clemens, or McGwire, or A-Rod, or whoever else they want to say tested positive. The fact that this gets so much attention irritates me to no end.

 

I'm pretty much with you. More players than we'll ever know took them, take them now, and will take something in the future. And, performance enhancers are in all profesional and high-level amateur sports.

[Wilson A2000]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

 

Everyone uses substances. It's just a matter of which substance is on which arbtirary list.

 

Not everyone uses them. Not everyone uses horse steroids. Even if everyone used them does not justify them using them.

 

I think it was for the good of baseball for them to crack down on steroid usage. Long-term, I don't think the game would be as interesting or as profitable if guys were consistently hitting 60, 70, 80 home runs a year. That would be too common, and it wouldn't hold people's interest. The home run derby is the boringest thing I have seen. The regular season was once a home run derby.

Edited February 7, 2009 by Wilson A2000

[wade]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

 

Everyone uses substances. It's just a matter of which substance is on which arbtirary list.

 

Not everyone uses them. Not everyone uses horse steroids. Even if everyone used them does not justify them using them.

 

It doesn't justify the use, but nearly every high level athlete is on something.

[MPC]

an interesting aspect of this story is union exec gene orza allegedly tipping off players about upcoming drug tests.

[Gingerballs Lives]

Now that ARod is tainted, Sammy has to be next. I can't believe no one has dug up some real dirt on him yet.

 

 

I don't think there's real incentive to dig anything up on Sosa. He's not playing anymore and kind of vanished.

 

This just makes Ken Griffey's accomplishments all the more impressive. Looking at that normal-dude body, there's no way he used anything.

[Sammy Sofa]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

 

Forget the home runs...I like 'em just for how they kept guys off the DL and could prolong peak years and awesome careers.

[Wilson A2000]

Steroids were a problem?

 

I thought they were pretty freakin' awesome.

 

Using a substance to break cherished records or unnaturally inflate statistics is awesome? If you like seeing big huge goons wack something around, try WWE.

 

Forget the home runs...I like 'em just for how they kept guys off the DL and could prolong peak years and awesome careers.

 

Many steroids put guys on the DL. Bonds is one example.

[ConstableRabbit]

Now that ARod is tainted, Sammy has to be next. I can't believe no one has dug up some real dirt on him yet.

 

 

I don't think there's real incentive to dig anything up on Sosa. He's not playing anymore and kind of vanished.

 

This just makes Ken Griffey's accomplishments all the more impressive. Looking at that normal-dude body, there's no way he used anything.

Steroids don't make you huge, they just significantly reduce your recovery time. You'd still have to work out a crapload to get big.

[Gingerballs Lives]

It's the different natures of football and baseball.

 

Football is a game to bet on, a game where you don't get as attached to players because they have shorter careers and wear helmets covering their faces, a game with relatively little history attached to it.

 

Baseball is (overly) romanticized for its history and its players are expected to be mythic figures.

 

While that's true, it isn't like that from the player's perspective as they're just trying to make it to the top of their profession just like football players who juice.

 

Baseball players are no different than football or basketball players, or wrestlers. They should be treated the same.

 

However, it'll be nice to see arod get taunted everywhere. He's always been a douche.

[SouthSideRyan]

I have no idea what is to be gained by any of this

 

Bonds, ARod, Clemens, and McGwire won't make the HOF. That is certainly something to be gained.

 

If ARod, Clemens and Bonds don't make the hall of fame, then there is no hall of fame.

[OleMissCub]

Many steroids put guys on the DL. Bonds is one example.

 

Kevin Brown is another I think.

[SouthSideRyan]

Now that ARod is tainted, Sammy has to be next. I can't believe no one has dug up some real dirt on him yet.

 

 

I don't think there's real incentive to dig anything up on Sosa. He's not playing anymore and kind of vanished.

 

This just makes Ken Griffey's accomplishments all the more impressive. Looking at that normal-dude body, there's no way he used anything.

 

Alex Sanchez.

[SouthSideRyan]

And every football player uses PEDs, but nobody cares because NFL analysts and 90% of its fans are meathead buffoons.

[imb]

steroids didn't put barry bonds on the dl, old age did. steroids allowed him to rape mlb pitching for like 7 more years than he would have otherwise

 

im sure the 400 million dollars he made while he would have otherwise been hanging out at home will help him cope