Hendry Needs To Go

[E.J.]

Chemistry and clutchness are keys to winning World Series.

[Keeper]

I don't know how anyone could still argue that trading Lee for Pods was a good move.

 

Well, they got a ring out of it. Worked out pretty well for them in '05. Pods was also pretty damn clutch in the postseason, if you'll recall.

 

That ring might have had something to do with their fantastic pitching. That Pods-led offense was pretty mediocre, even in the postseason.

 

The pitching was fantastic. No argument there. But mediocre? Really? In 12 games (49 ABs), he hit .286 with a .375 OBP and a .551 SLG, had 2 HRs (1 was a walkoff in the World Series btw), 1 double, 3 triples, 6 SB, 6 RBIs, and scored 9 runs.

 

 

Maybe he should've tried harder during the regular season.

 

He finished 12th in MVP voting. They won their first World Series in 88 years. Sounds like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

[JimSorgi]

He finished 12th in MVP voting.

That only proves that the voters are idiots.

[Keeper]

your posts reek of buffoonery

 

So do yours. :thumbsup:

[Hairyducked Idiot]

He finished 12th in MVP voting. They won their first World Series in 88 years. Sounds like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

Awards voters once gave a gold glove to a DH. Awards voters aren't really authorities.

[E.J.]

I don't know how anyone could still argue that trading Lee for Pods was a good move.

 

Well, they got a ring out of it. Worked out pretty well for them in '05. Pods was also pretty damn clutch in the postseason, if you'll recall.

 

That ring might have had something to do with their fantastic pitching. That Pods-led offense was pretty mediocre, even in the postseason.

 

The pitching was fantastic. No argument there. But mediocre? Really? In 12 games (49 ABs), he hit .286 with a .375 OBP and a .551 SLG, had 2 HRs (1 was a walkoff in the World Series btw), 1 double, 3 triples, 6 SB, 6 RBIs, and scored 9 runs.

 

 

Maybe he should've tried harder during the regular season.

 

He finished 12th in MVP voting. They won their first World Series in 88 years. Sounds like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

2005 was Pods best year and he posted a .700 OPS. Just fantastic from a corner outfielder.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why'd Ken Williams let Podsednik go?

[Keeper]

The OPS is low because he doesn't have any power. The OBP was fine, though. Again, I don't know why you're carping. They won. In part, because of him.

[E.J.]

The OPS is low because he doesn't have any power. The OBP was fine, though. Again, I don't know why you're carping. They won. In part, because of him.

 

They didn't win because of him. They won because of their pitching. I'm sorry, but a .700 OPS from an outfielder (or anyone for that matter) is just not good. You cannot argue that he is a good player. He's not.

[JimSorgi]

The OPS is low because he doesn't have any power. The OBP was fine, though. Again, I don't know why you're carping. They won. In part, because of him.

And not having any power is bad, especially when your OBP isn't that impressive.

[Soul]

...I think it was more the pitching, which was indeed marvelous for them in '05.

[Keeper]

The OPS is low because he doesn't have any power. The OBP was fine, though. Again, I don't know why you're carping. They won. In part, because of him.

 

They didn't win because of him. They won because of their pitching. I'm sorry, but a .700 OPS from an outfielder (or anyone for that matter) is just not good. You cannot argue that he is a good player. He's not.

 

I said, "in part." Yes, they did win because of their pitching. But it's not like he had nothing to do with their success.

 

Luis Castillo's career OPS: .722

Maury Wills career OPS: .661

 

Bad players?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The OPS is low because he doesn't have any power. The OBP was fine, though. Again, I don't know why you're carping. They won. In part, because of him.

 

They didn't win because of him. They won because of their pitching. I'm sorry, but a .700 OPS from an outfielder (or anyone for that matter) is just not good. You cannot argue that he is a good player. He's not.

 

I said, "in part." Yes, they did win because of their pitching. But it's not like he had nothing to do with their success.

 

Luis Castillo's career OPS: .722

Maury Wills career OPS: .661

 

Bad players?

 

So, going back to the original discussion, any trade is a good one as long as the player it nets has not nothing to do with a team that wins while they are on it?

 

As was mentioned, the problem isn't Scott Podsednik's OPS alone. It's the fact that he posts that OPS as a mediocre defensively corner outfielder. If, like Castillo, he was a middle infielder, it'd be different.

 

Wills was also a middle infielder who played in a pitching-dominated era.

 

If any of those applied to Podsednik, he'd be a better player.

[Tracer Bullet]

The Sox needed speed and a table setter. They had more than enough power to fill the void left by Lee. Pods was a good fit.

 

Trading DeRosa was unnecessary and it will come back to bite the Cubs in the ass, unless Fontenot rises to the occasion. The minor league pitchers the Cubs got in return for DeRosa won't do a damn thing for the team THIS SEASON. So unless they're rebuilding again, what was the point of the trade?

 

I don't know how anyone could still argue that trading Lee for Pods was a good move.

fwiw, using the WAR figures, there was merely a 3 run margin between the two players in '05

 

using the grcf figures, Pods sucks.

[SouthSideRyan]

WHY DON'T WE SIGN PODSEDNIK?

[Keeper]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

Buckner was a very mediocre player who hung on too long.

 

He had three decent but overrated seasons sandwhiched around that career of mediocrity.

Edited January 7, 2009 by Hairyducked Idiot

[SouthSideRyan]

Bill Buckner was a bad Hal Morris once his knees gave out.

[JimSorgi]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

Lee would have helped them a lot more.

 

And I'm not sure why you're randomly posting a player's career OPS.

Edited January 7, 2009 by JimSorgi

[E.J.]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

 

It'd be great if you tried to prove your theory by comparing Pods to actual good players. Buckner was not one of them.

[BigbadB]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

 

Bill Buckner and Maury Wills? Are you seriously comparing Scotty Pods to these guys? They played in a completely different era and completely different ballparks. Maury Wills' career was played entirely during a dominant pitching era. Buckner was nothing like Podsednik. Period.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

Lee would have helped them a lot more.

 

When your pitching staff puts up ERAs of 2.20, 2.63, and 3.00 in three postseason series, my pregnant wife would be a good fit in left field.

[SouthSideRyan]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

Lee would have helped them a lot more.

 

When your pitching staff puts up ERAs of 2.20, 2.63, and 3.00 in three postseason series, my pregnant wife would be a good fit in left field.

 

She'd have as good a first step as Pods too.

[jersey cubs fan]

Bill Buckner's career OPS: .729 (played 644 games in the outfield)

 

I'm not saying Pods is a great player. I'm just saying he was a good fit for the Sox when they got him.

 

It'd be great if you tried to prove your theory by comparing Pods to actual good players. Buckner was not one of them.

 

Plus, Buckner had an OPS+ well over 100 on plenty of occasions, and his career numbers were weighed down by his long career. Pods had one good year and then stunk since 2003.

[Soul]

It is kind of funny how they traded away a bat like Lee, got Pods, then won the World Series in spite of it.

 

You never know. Maybe DeRosa goes, Fontenot doesn't fill the gap, but somehow the Cubs still get it done. There's a lot games that need to be played. Hard to sit here in January and pretend to know what will happen by October.