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anyone who bangs elisha cuthbert and then calls her sloppy seconds is ok in my book

 

Exactly... this is one thing we can agree on. My handle on every hockey site is "SeanAvery".

 

Avery brings a dimension to the sport that is severely lacking. The agitator/nuisance/[expletive]... he is so entertaining to watch. When you get a rule made out of you, you know you're doing something right.

 

He is the kind of player the NHL needs to widely market the sport.

 

Thank you, IMB... you have inspired me to post my top 3 Sean Avery Videos, I know you'll enjoy them:

 

 

Can't believe Avery didn't get a 10 game suspension for pushing Cindy in the chest here...

 

 

Sean Avery does push ups to celebrate a goal in the eyeball of the opponent... amazing

 

There are some sick compilations of all his [expletive] moments if you type "Sean Avery" into YouTube... "Sean Avery, Born to Raise Hell" is a good one.

 

For those of you wondering, here is the "AVERY RULE":

 

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why do people like it

 

whether you like the sport or not, you at least have to respect the fact that hockey is pretty much the only sport left that is not full of greedy, arrogant, primadonnas and the players actually care more about the sport than the money. hockey players are generally legit

 

bullVeterans Committee.

 

explain. yes they get paid a lot and some of them are dbags, but they all care about the sport before anything else.

 

Explain where you're getting this child-like fantasy from.

 

Sean Avery clearly cares about the sport before anything else.

 

did i ever say there weren't exceptions? i said "generally". of course that are exceptions

 

and what happened to avery? oh that's right, the stars won't let him back on the team. if that was an nfl player he would have gotten a raise for being so entertaining

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Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

by that standard, you wouldn't be able to fill an NFL, MLB or NBA roster

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Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

by that standard, you wouldn't be able to fill an NFL, MLB or NBA roster

 

OR AN NHL ROSTER.

 

Just because they make less money and are less popular and aren't primarily American doesn't mean they're any less douchebaggy.

Posted
Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

So, its OK to almost end a guy's career or life with a slash or high stick, but make a few comments about sloppy 2nds and you are banned?

 

Great to know.

 

 

That's absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Posted
Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

So, its OK to almost end a guy's career or life with a slash or high stick, but make a few comments about sloppy 2nds and you are banned?

 

Great to know.

 

 

That's absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

 

1) Strawman

 

2) Prior records matter

 

3) The only time a guy's "career or life" was almost ended by a high stick/slashing incident was McSorely, and he never played in the NHL again, iirc.

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This game is gonna be really cool. I just hope there are some actual Hawks fans in the seats.

 

And I hope NBC shows the anthem. I'm sure they will. It would be even better if they let Messmer sing. I know there was some sort of old grudge there, but given his connection to the Cubs and McDonough, I think it could happen.

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anyone who bangs elisha cuthbert and then calls her sloppy seconds is ok in my book

 

Exactly... this is one thing we can agree on. My handle on every hockey site is "SeanAvery".

 

Avery brings a dimension to the sport that is severely lacking. The agitator/nuisance/[expletive]... he is so entertaining to watch. When you get a rule made out of you, you know you're doing something right.

 

He is the kind of player the NHL needs to widely market the sport.

 

Thank you, IMB... you have inspired me to post my top 3 Sean Avery Videos, I know you'll enjoy them:

 

 

Can't believe Avery didn't get a 10 game suspension for pushing Cindy in the chest here...

 

 

Sean Avery does push ups to celebrate a goal in the eyeball of the opponent... amazing

 

There are some sick compilations of all his [expletive] moments if you type "Sean Avery" into YouTube... "Sean Avery, Born to Raise Hell" is a good one.

 

For those of you wondering, here is the "AVERY RULE":

 

 

Amazing? More like pathetic. This is such an idiotic post. Hockey doesn't need more a holes. All this trash talking crap in every league is nothing but crap. It adds nothing and only exposes the players' own immaturity and self doubt.

 

Avery tapping Crosby in the chest is a top video choice? You have terribly low standards.

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Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

So, its OK to almost end a guy's career or life with a slash or high stick, but make a few comments about sloppy 2nds and you are banned?

 

Great to know.

 

 

That's absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

 

1) Strawman

 

2) Prior records matter

 

3) The only time a guy's "career or life" was almost ended by a high stick/slashing incident was McSorely, and he never played in the NHL again, iirc.

 

Seriously apete, you don't appear to know what you are talking about.

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Avery just takes it too far. I love the agitators. Claude Lemeiux, for one. There is a profile on him in either the new SI or ESPN Mag this week. Can't remember which one I read it in last night.

 

Anyway, these guys have a place in the game. Even the post-lockout clutching-and-grabbing-free game. But like I said, I don't think Avery should be their poster boy.

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Avery just takes it too far. I love the agitators. Claude Lemeiux, for one. There is a profile on him in either the new SI or ESPN Mag this week. Can't remember which one I read it in last night.

 

Anyway, these guys have a place in the game. Even the post-lockout clutching-and-grabbing-free game. But like I said, I don't think Avery should be their poster boy.

 

Avery DOES take it too far... but there needs to be a couple people like that in the league. Do you know how many friends of mine I show videos of Avery too and they actually give the Hawks or hockey in general a chance.

 

It's entertaining and brings another dimension to the game. I think Avery could be very marketable as the bad boy, which he really is already.

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Avery just takes it too far. I love the agitators. Claude Lemeiux, for one. There is a profile on him in either the new SI or ESPN Mag this week. Can't remember which one I read it in last night.

 

Anyway, these guys have a place in the game. Even the post-lockout clutching-and-grabbing-free game. But like I said, I don't think Avery should be their poster boy.

 

Avery DOES take it too far... but there needs to be a couple people like that in the league. Do you know how many friends of mine I show videos of Avery too and they actually give the Hawks or hockey in general a chance.

It's entertaining and brings another dimension to the game. I think Avery could be very marketable as the bad boy, which he really is already.

 

I'll bet none. Who would be that influenced by those videos to go from being a hockey agnostic to actually thinking it could be worth a shot?

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Avery just takes it too far. I love the agitators. Claude Lemeiux, for one. There is a profile on him in either the new SI or ESPN Mag this week. Can't remember which one I read it in last night.

 

Anyway, these guys have a place in the game. Even the post-lockout clutching-and-grabbing-free game. But like I said, I don't think Avery should be their poster boy.

 

Avery DOES take it too far... but there needs to be a couple people like that in the league. Do you know how many friends of mine I show videos of Avery too and they actually give the Hawks or hockey in general a chance.

It's entertaining and brings another dimension to the game. I think Avery could be very marketable as the bad boy, which he really is already.

 

I'll bet none. Who would be that influenced by those videos to go from being a hockey agnostic to actually thinking it could be worth a shot?

 

Why do people watch wrestling knowing it's fake?

 

A) They are hilljacks

B) They like the sense of character dynamic and badboys/goodguys

 

Avery fits the bad boy dynamic and is entertaining to watch for the casual fan.

 

EDIT:

 

Of course I brainwash them with Kane/Toews videos as well.

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Why do people watch wrestling knowing it's fake?

 

A) They are hilljacks

B) They like the sense of character dynamic and badboys/goodguys

 

Avery fits the bad boy dynamic and is entertaining to watch for the casual fan.

 

If he does something entertaining three times a year it would be a miracle. A little chest shove after the whistle is not exactly hard to come by. Avery is a mysoginistic douchebag of the highest order.

Posted
Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

So, its OK to almost end a guy's career or life with a slash or high stick, but make a few comments about sloppy 2nds and you are banned?

 

Great to know.

 

 

That's absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

 

1) Strawman

 

2) Prior records matter

 

3) The only time a guy's "career or life" was almost ended by a high stick/slashing incident was McSorely, and he never played in the NHL again, iirc.

 

Seriously apete, you don't appear to know what you are talking about.

 

Didn't that guy who slammed the guys head into the ice play again? I remember Claude Lemieux boarding the bejesus out of Draper and playing again in the league. Chris Simon played after multiple transgressions. OK, maybe they weren't slashes, but other on-ice transgressions that are much more damaging than some words.

 

I know Avery's a pain in the ass and has done some borderline illegal stuff on the ice, but if words are enough to get someone banned from the league, then that's just dumb. There's a reason why the NHL isn't more popular and its decisions like this...and having your main TV contract with VS.

Posted (edited)
Regarding Avery:

 

He's a grade A [expletive] and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the league. He's a total immature douchebag.

 

So, its OK to almost end a guy's career or life with a slash or high stick, but make a few comments about sloppy 2nds and you are banned?

 

Great to know.

 

 

That's absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

 

1) Strawman

 

2) Prior records matter

 

3) The only time a guy's "career or life" was almost ended by a high stick/slashing incident was McSorely, and he never played in the NHL again, iirc.

 

Seriously apete, you don't appear to know what you are talking about.

 

Didn't that guy who slammed the guys head into the ice play again? I remember Claude Lemieux boarding the bejesus out of Draper and playing again in the league. Chris Simon played after multiple transgressions. OK, maybe they weren't slashes, but other on-ice transgressions that are much more damaging than some words.

 

I know Avery's a pain in the ass and has done some borderline illegal stuff on the ice, but if words are enough to get someone banned from the league, then that's just dumb. There's a reason why the NHL isn't more popular and its decisions like this...and having your main TV contract with VS.[/quote]

 

AND only showing Penguins/Wings games.

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I know Avery's a pain in the ass and has done some borderline illegal stuff on the ice, but if words are enough to get someone banned from the league, then that's just dumb. There's a reason why the NHL isn't more popular and its decisions like this...and having your main TV contract with VS.

 

There are reasons the NHL isn't more popular, but that has *nothing* to do with it.

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I know Avery's a pain in the ass and has done some borderline illegal stuff on the ice, but if words are enough to get someone banned from the league, then that's just dumb. There's a reason why the NHL isn't more popular and its decisions like this...and having your main TV contract with VS.

 

It's not just "words". There's been a series of very poor behavior, including confrontations with fans. They didn't throw him out for having a potty mouth, they are blackballing him because he's a complete douchebag in every respect.

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I know Avery's a pain in the ass and has done some borderline illegal stuff on the ice, but if words are enough to get someone banned from the league, then that's just dumb. There's a reason why the NHL isn't more popular and its decisions like this...and having your main TV contract with VS.

 

There are reasons the NHL isn't more popular, but that has *nothing* to do with it.

 

Yeah I really don't think a few goons give the NHL a bad name. There are just too many people who aren't exposed to the sport when they are young and then decide that they "hate" it and won't give it a chance.

 

I agree that the TV contract is bad. Going back to ESPN would give the league back a lot of cred. It seemed like ESPN and ESPN2 had games on 4-5 times/week in the mid-to-late 90s. That was awesome.

 

The league is fine in places where it should be. Those Sun Belt teams can rot as far as I'm concerned. Move those teams to Winnipeg, Quebec, Hamilton, perhaps Seattle. Contract a few teams. That would be a good start. When I watch random games on Center Ice, I will watch the Canadian teams first every time.

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