Re: College Football - Bowl Discussion

[Flames24Rulz]

If you really believe Oklahoma was the 2nd best team in the nation after tonight, then I don't really know what to say to you.

 

I'm not understanding this. Are you saying we should all really believe that OU is the best team, even after losing the game?

 

Quite the opposite, I was extremely unimpressed with Oklahoma last night and I find it really hard to believe that they're the 2nd best team in the nation after last night. And seeing how a 1 loss Texas team did in fact beat Oklahoma (who finished with two losses), there's no way Oklahoma should finish 2nd in the polls. If you're going to rank Texas ahead of Oklahoma, Utah and USC definitely should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma as well.

[rchap24]

If you really believe Oklahoma was the 2nd best team in the nation after tonight, then I don't really know what to say to you.

 

I'm not understanding this. Are you saying we should all really believe that OU is the best team, even after losing the game?

 

Quite the opposite, I was extremely unimpressed with Oklahoma last night and I find it really hard to believe that they're the 2nd best team in the nation after last night. And seeing how a 1 loss Texas team did in fact beat Oklahoma (who finished with two losses), there's no way Oklahoma should finish 2nd in the polls. If you're going to rank Texas ahead of Oklahoma, Utah and USC definitely should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma as well.

 

Texas doesn't deserve two...If anything it should be

 

1. Florida

2. USC

3a. Texas

3b. Utah

5. Oklahoma

[TruffleShuffle]

Texas doesn't deserve two...If anything it should be

 

1. Florida

2. USC

3a. Texas

3b. Utah

5. Oklahoma

 

why doesn't texas deserve two?

[rchap24]

Texas doesn't deserve two...If anything it should be

 

1. Florida

2. USC

3a. Texas

3b. Utah

5. Oklahoma

 

why doesn't texas deserve two?

 

In my eyes that's what it should be...I just never was that enamored with Texas and if Ohio State hadn't blitzed the whole team so there was nobody down field if they passed then they would have lost...In my mind if you do a playoff system Florida and USC would meet in the final

[SpongeWorthy]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Florida/Fockface.gif

[TruffleShuffle]

Texas doesn't deserve two...If anything it should be

 

1. Florida

2. USC

3a. Texas

3b. Utah

5. Oklahoma

 

why doesn't texas deserve two?

 

In my eyes that's what it should be...I just never was that enamored with Texas and if Ohio State hadn't blitzed the whole team so there was nobody down field if they passed then they would have lost...In my mind if you do a playoff system Florida and USC would meet in the final

 

ohio st blitzed because texas was marching down the field on them and they were trying to stop their momentum.

 

that's fine that you consider florida and usc to be the two best teams but that's different than saying "texas doesn't deserve two" like it's a statement of fact.

[shnsajax]

Am I the only one who thought Oklahoma had chances to win the game last night? Florida won, but I don't have any certain feelings they are the best team in the nation. Sadly Utah never had a chance.

[XZero771679666304]

Am I the only one who thought Oklahoma had chances to win the game last night? Florida won, but I don't have any certain feelings they are the best team in the nation. Sadly Utah never had a chance.

 

 

OU certainly could have won the game if they had cashed in their chances. It seemed like the Sooners were in the driver's seat until midway through third.

 

And after seeing Utah manhandle Alabama, I certainly think they have a legitimate gripe with being left out of the discussion.

[UMFan83]

If you really believe Oklahoma was the 2nd best team in the nation after tonight, then I don't really know what to say to you.

 

I'm not understanding this. Are you saying we should all really believe that OU is the best team, even after losing the game?

 

Quite the opposite, I was extremely unimpressed with Oklahoma last night and I find it really hard to believe that they're the 2nd best team in the nation after last night. And seeing how a 1 loss Texas team did in fact beat Oklahoma (who finished with two losses), there's no way Oklahoma should finish 2nd in the polls. If you're going to rank Texas ahead of Oklahoma, Utah and USC definitely should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma as well.

 

If you compare just their bowl performances, I think Oklahoma did better than Texas. If OU converts one of those possessions where they had the ball inside the 5 yard line, the whole complex of the game changes. I know that requires execution that the Sooners didn't have, but even an average team facing Florida in those situations would score at least a FG both times about 75% of the time (note: this is a random guess and not a statistic). It was a fluke that Oklahoma scored 0 points in those situations.

 

Anyways, OU lost and Texas won. There's no way around that, and it doesn't matter that OU played a vastly superior team. And if you did want it to matter, Texas still beat OU at a neutral site this year.

Edited January 9, 2009 by UMFan83

[Guest]

Am I the only one who thought Oklahoma had chances to win the game last night? Florida won, but I don't have any certain feelings they are the best team in the nation. Sadly Utah never had a chance.

 

OU certainly had their chances, especially in the first half, but blew them and got a bit unlucky. They had 3rd and goal at the 1 and couldn't cash it in. Then they had the fluke interception at the end of the first half that bounced off about 5 players before being picked off. Even Bradford's pick in the second half was unlucky, even though the throw was a bit high, since the receiver should have caught the ball.

 

If a couple things go the other way, OU could have won that game.

[Soul]

Am I the only one who thought Oklahoma had chances to win the game last night? Florida won, but I don't have any certain feelings they are the best team in the nation. Sadly Utah never had a chance.

 

OU certainly had their chances, especially in the first half, but blew them and got a bit unlucky. They had 3rd and goal at the 1 and couldn't cash it in. Then they had the fluke interception at the end of the first half that bounced off about 5 players before being picked off. Even Bradford's pick in the second half was unlucky, even though the throw was a bit high, since the receiver should have caught the ball.

 

If a couple things go the other way, OU could have won that game.

 

Their defense actually held up better than I thought it would, especially earlier in the game. Florida didn't pull away until late. Part of that might have been the fact that Florida's players kept going down, though.

[The Voice of Reason]

hopefully usc wouldn't draw akron in the first round.

 

Maybe the Badgers would draw the mighty Zips in a rematch with one of their opponents from the regular season.

[TruffleShuffle]

hopefully usc wouldn't draw akron in the first round.

 

Maybe the Badgers would draw the mighty Zips in a rematch with one of their opponents from the regular season.

 

the badgers? where does that come from?

[Guest]

The transitive property at work.

 

They trace it all the way down to NAIA.

[bcl412]

The transitive property at work.

 

They trace it all the way down to NAIA.

 

Beautiful

[Mephistopheles]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0901/cfb.bcs.title.game/images/9-mid.jpg

[TruffleShuffle]

he's just holding it up like that to see the shiny lights coming through it.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Tebow Skips Senior Season, Ascends Directly Into Heaven

 

MIAMI (SP) -- Shortly after leading the Florida Gators to a national

championship with a 24-14 win over Oklahoma, junior quarterback Tim

Tebow announced that he would skip his senior season and ascend

directly into heaven.

 

Tebow entered the press room to wild applause. A reporter for a 24-

hour cable sports network burst into tears when the 2007 Heisman

winner entered the room. Another threw a pair of boxer shorts on the

podium. Tebow smiled at the gesture and several sports reporters

fainted.

 

"Sorry I'm late," Tebow began. "There was a six-year-old boy with

cancer in row 54 and I had to make my way through the crowd to heal

him."

 

"I want to start by saying that playing quarterback for the University

of Florida, winning two national championships, has been a great

honor. There has been some speculation about my future and I want to

clear that up right now," he continued.

 

"Don't go, Tim!" a reporter shouted from the back of the room.

 

"After much consideration, I have decided to skip my senior season at

the University of Florida and ascend directly into Heaven," Tebow

announced. Upon making the announcement, Tebow was bathed in a

blinding white light and vanished.

 

In response to the news, ESPN announced they will have a month-long

tribute to Tebow. ESPN2 will now be known as ESPN-TEBOW and will

feature Tebow highlights (including home videos of Tebow's childhood),

re-airings of past interviews, Tebow-centric analysis by ESPN air

personalities, a Tebow quiz show and a reality show to find the "most

Tebow-like" person in America.

 

"He wasn't just the greatest player in college football history," said

a college football writer at the press conference, tears streaming

down his face. "He might have been the greatest person to ever walk on

earth."

[Derwood]

has Thom Brenneman proposed to Tebow yet?

[shnsajax]

has Thom Brenneman proposed to Tebow yet?

 

he's still on two knee's rather than one.

[da bears]

I found this on another board. Florida's non conference schedules the last 18 years. Interesting to say the least:

1990: Oklahoma State (Gainesville), Furman (Gainesville), Akron (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1991: San Jose State (Gainesville), Syracuse (Syracuse), Northern Illinois (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1992: Louisville (Gainesville), Southern Miss (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1993: Arkansas State (Gainesville), SW Louisiana (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1994: New Mexico St (Gainesville), Southern Miss (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1995: Houston (Gainesville), Northern Illinois (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1996: SW Louisiana (Gainesville), Georgia Southern (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1997: Southern Miss (Gainesville), Central Michigan (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1998: The Citadel (Gainesville), Northeast Louisiana (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1999: Western Michigan (Gainesville), Central Florida (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2000: Ball State (Gainesville), Middle Tennessee State (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2001: Marshall (Gainesville), Lousiana-Monroe (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2002: UAB (Gainesville), Miami (Gainesville), Ohio (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2003: San Jose State (Gainesville), Miami (Miami), FAMU (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2004: Eastern Michigan (Gainesville), Middle Tenn State (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2005: Wyoming (Gainesville), La Tech (Gainesville), FSU(Gainesville)

2006: Southern Miss (Gainesville), UCF (Gainesville), Western Carolina (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2007: Western Kentucky (Gainesville), Troy (Gainesville), FAU (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2008: Hawaii (Gainesville), Miami (Gainesville), The Citadel (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

 

Florida hasn't left the state to play a non-con game in 18 years.

[Derwood]

2009

 

Charleston Southern (LOL) - Gainesville

Troy - Gainesville

Florida International - Gainesville

Florida State - Gainesville

[Mephistopheles]

Florida needs eight home games a year in order to sustain their program. The football program is basically what funds their entire sports program. They get more money for home games, obviously, and the Florida St game alternates with whether or not they "lose" a home game in the SEC schedule for the Cocktail party. They were able to travel to Miami a few years back (and go to Miami in 2013) because of the extra week of football allowed in those seasons. I believe they have a home and home with USF in 2012 and 2011.

 

I'm not exactly sure of your point. Well I am sure of it, and it is stupid. As I said before location of a game hardly matters and a road game in Tallahassee is going to be no different than a road game in Los Angeles, provided the two teams are similar that year. That being said your only point has to be that they're pussies and don't schedule tough OOC games. They play the SEC schedule every year. They play Florida State every year, who was top 5 for like an eternity before the last few years. The other two or three games aren't much, but hey considering the rest of the schedule it's fine. They have problems attracting tougher matchups because elite teams only like to schedule home and homes. Florida's AD says they'd lose too much money to go on the road more than they already do.

 

This thing is blown to the point of stupidity. A team that's good that goes on the road for tough OOC games as much as most good programs might go to a tough out of state one once every third year. Most good programs have rivals who are ONLY in their conference. Two of Florida's biggest traditional rivals, Miami and Florida State are not in the same conference but are in the same state. Most teams who have rivals outside their conference only play tough non-conference games against their rivals. The other ones are usually cupcakes. Teams like Oklahoma, Ohio State and others don't have traditional power house rivals outside their conference, so they schedule a home and home with a good program. That's exactly what Florida does. In reality, this "difference" in scheduling is maybe four or five games over the course of the last 20 years. Pretty much nothing considering that's four or five out of nearly two hundred and forty.

 

And if you think that because of this Florida plays a crap schedule. Um, no. Sagarin ranking of their schedule in the BCS era.

 

1998 $47

1999 #12

2000 #27

2001 #23

2002 #9

2003 #7

2004 #57

2005 #40

2006 #8

2007 #3

2008 #4

 

And on average the toughest schedules in america in the BCS era

 

1. 77.18 Stanford

2. 76.98 Washington

3. 76.95 Southern Cal

4. 76.88 UCLA

5. 76.50 Florida State

6. 76.31 Colorado

7. 75.94 Notre Dame

8. 75.89 Michigan

9. 75.86 North Carolina

10. 75.79 Florida

[Andy]

I'm so relieved now that I know Florida football pays for the athletic program. We all know that is not true at all for other big-time programs nationwide. Playing eight home games a year is perfectly logical now.

[UMFan83]

I found this on another board. Florida's non conference schedules the last 18 years. Interesting to say the least:

1990: Oklahoma State (Gainesville), Furman (Gainesville), Akron (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1991: San Jose State (Gainesville), Syracuse (Syracuse), Northern Illinois (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1992: Louisville (Gainesville), Southern Miss (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1993: Arkansas State (Gainesville), SW Louisiana (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1994: New Mexico St (Gainesville), Southern Miss (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1995: Houston (Gainesville), Northern Illinois (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1996: SW Louisiana (Gainesville), Georgia Southern (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1997: Southern Miss (Gainesville), Central Michigan (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

1998: The Citadel (Gainesville), Northeast Louisiana (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

1999: Western Michigan (Gainesville), Central Florida (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2000: Ball State (Gainesville), Middle Tennessee State (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2001: Marshall (Gainesville), Lousiana-Monroe (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2002: UAB (Gainesville), Miami (Gainesville), Ohio (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2003: San Jose State (Gainesville), Miami (Miami), FAMU (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2004: Eastern Michigan (Gainesville), Middle Tenn State (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2005: Wyoming (Gainesville), La Tech (Gainesville), FSU(Gainesville)

2006: Southern Miss (Gainesville), UCF (Gainesville), Western Carolina (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

2007: Western Kentucky (Gainesville), Troy (Gainesville), FAU (Gainesville), FSU (Gainesville)

2008: Hawaii (Gainesville), Miami (Gainesville), The Citadel (Gainesville), FSU (Tallahassee)

 

Florida hasn't left the state to play a non-con game in 18 years.

 

Syracuse is in Florida?