Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[UMFan83]

Unconfirmed rumor from Andrew Baggarly: Sabathia declined the Yankees' offer. He still printed it though. The Giants are expected to meet with Sabathia this weekend; they'd need to get creative to sign him.

 

Don't say I didn't tell you so when the Yankees surprisingly jump into the Peavy sweepstakes

 

 

 

 

(but if they don't, please conveniently forget I said this)

 

I somehow doubt Peavy would accept a trade to NY.

 

The off hand rumor earlier was that if he didn't goto the Cubs, he thought he would end up with the Yankees.

[cubsfan26]

LAS VEGAS - A proposed trade between the Padres and the Chicago Cubs, facilitated by a third and possibly a fourth team, isn't imminent, a team source indicated Tuesday.

 

 

There appears to be some reluctance on the Cubs part, whether it be an ownership issue or that they're looking to add a left-handed bat, before turning attention to pitching and, quite possibly, adding Jake Peavy.

 

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/peavy_talks_slowing.html

 

Basically same report we been hearing all day from the Cubs sources. But Towers comments kinda said otherwise.

[Sever82]

Unconfirmed rumor from Andrew Baggarly: Sabathia declined the Yankees' offer. He still printed it though. The Giants are expected to meet with Sabathia this weekend; they'd need to get creative to sign him.

 

Don't say I didn't tell you so when the Yankees surprisingly jump into the Peavy sweepstakes

 

 

 

 

(but if they don't, please conveniently forget I said this)

 

I dont know if the yankees will jump into the Peavy sweepstakes, i think they'll try to sign Burnett before they do that because i think Yankees feel they have good pitching prospoect in hughes, joba and kennedy that they can build around. Look at it this way, back in 2001 i believe, if you had Wood, Zambrano and Prior with the level of talent that they have, would you trade them for lets say Pedro Martinez at the time? Not to say that Hughes, Joba and Kennedy are at the level of talent that Wood, Prior and Zambrano were but im pretty sure the yankees hold them on that level. I feel Cashman is overrated as a GM, anyone could aquire the players that he did if they had that kind of money to play with. In my opinion if Hendry or Kenny Williams werre the Yankees GM in that period, they Yankees would have more rings cause unlike Cashman i feel that Chicago's GMs would use the money more wisely. I mean even though the Cubs haven't won a championship, we still have one of the best rosters in the MLB because of Hendry. Imagine if Hendry had the luxury of expanding our payroll to over 200 million like the yankees were, we would have maybe Arod on our club, maybe Cabrera cause we would be willing to trade and extend his contract.

[Jehrico]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

[Little Slide Rooter]

LAS VEGAS - A proposed trade between the Padres and the Chicago Cubs, facilitated by a third and possibly a fourth team, isn't imminent, a team source indicated Tuesday.

 

 

There appears to be some reluctance on the Cubs part, whether it be an ownership issue or that they're looking to add a left-handed bat, before turning attention to pitching and, quite possibly, adding Jake Peavy.

 

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/peavy_talks_slowing.html

 

Basically same report we been hearing all day from the Cubs sources. But Towers comments kinda said otherwise.

 

I would assume that Towers has a better idea of whats going on than any of the sports writers, unless hes purposely trying to make it clear to everyone around these hes trying to make this happen, and if it doesnt, hes not the one to blame.

[BigbadB]

LAS VEGAS - A proposed trade between the Padres and the Chicago Cubs, facilitated by a third and possibly a fourth team, isn't imminent, a team source indicated Tuesday.

 

 

There appears to be some reluctance on the Cubs part, whether it be an ownership issue or that they're looking to add a left-handed bat, before turning attention to pitching and, quite possibly, adding Jake Peavy.

 

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/peavy_talks_slowing.html

 

Basically same report we been hearing all day from the Cubs sources. But Towers comments kinda said otherwise.

 

If you thumb back a page or two, Bruce Miles pretty much said that Hendry and Towers had not met at all today, as they were in organized meetings. What I gather from that is that nothing is different since they met last night and they are likely to meet up sometime this afternoon.

[Little Slide Rooter]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

Basically my long winded way of saying just because were in the dark doesnt mean something isnt happening behind closed doors.

[UMFan83]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

I think he means the Zambrano extension signing

[Little Slide Rooter]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

I think he means the Zambrano extension signing

 

Oh, that. It was similar. All season long, there were talks, and then it was tabled, and then silence, and then I remember listening to a game on the radio fairly late in the season, and they announced the extension.

[Bruce Miles]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

[UMFan83]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

I think he means the Zambrano extension signing

 

Oh, that. It was similar. All season long, there were talks, and then it was tabled, and then silence, and then I remember listening to a game on the radio fairly late in the season, and they announced the extension.

 

You forgot Jason Kendall. Boy was that trade a surprise. Kevin Gregg, Cotts for Aardsma, Barrett to SD, etc etc. I can't remember a deal that was rumored for awhile that eventually got done. I guess the Harden trade was reported before it went down, but when it actually went down, because of the timing everyone expected it to be a deadline deal if at all, it came as a huge shock to me.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

3:31pm: MLB.com's Corey Brock says nothing is imminent and the Cubs appear reluctant.

 

Dammit Jim.

 

It was kind of obvious when Towers went to the media talking about how close it was. He's putting pressure on Hendry because Hendry is reluctant.

[Little Slide Rooter]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

I think he means the Zambrano extension signing

 

Oh, that. It was similar. All season long, there were talks, and then it was tabled, and then silence, and then I remember listening to a game on the radio fairly late in the season, and they announced the extension.

 

You forgot Jason Kendall. Boy was that trade a surprise. Kevin Gregg, Cotts for Aardsma, Barrett to SD, etc etc. I can't remember a deal that was rumored for awhile that eventually got done. I guess the Harden trade was reported before it went down, but when it actually went down, because of the timing everyone expected it to be a deadline deal if at all, it came as a huge shock to me.

 

I guess you do have a point there. I remember being mildly excited about the Kendall deal, never imagining the legacy hed ultimately leave behing. Gregg had actually been rumored to the Cubs, among other teams, I just never expected it when it happened. The Cotts for Aardsma was pretty minor.

[PrimeTime]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

[BleacherBadger]

One thing about Hendry-he can strike when you least expect it. I remember hearing rumors about Harden, and that it would happen around the trade dealine, and then bam, all of the sudden I remember turning on the news and them talking about Sean Gallagher packing his bags for Oakland. Same with Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Nomar, and Zambrano. Sometimes, after not hearing much, big trades and signings are completed suddenly and without warning.

:scratch:

 

I think he means the Zambrano extension signing

 

Oh, that. It was similar. All season long, there were talks, and then it was tabled, and then silence, and then I remember listening to a game on the radio fairly late in the season, and they announced the extension.

 

And announced here the night before by :wave:

[Little Slide Rooter]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

 

Im guessing DeRosa is whats holding it up. All of the other players are name that have been tossed around since day one. Seriously, if we can get Peavy, and then land Abreu, Bradley, or even Ibanez, DeRosa wont be missed.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

 

Peavy has possible elbow problems and a ginormous contract at a time when teams seem to be scaling back on payroll. And San Diego wants a fortune for him despite him all but saying he will only go to the Cubs.

 

Hendry has a few reasons to be cautious.

[UMFan83]

Just to tease everyone a little more, this would be our projected rotation based on their best big league seasons. The good news is that 4/5 pitchers had their best year within the last 2 seasons, and 4/5 had their best season at least partially with the Cubs:

 

Peavy     19-6  2.54 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2007)
Harden    10-2  2.07 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2008)
Zambrano  16-8  2.75 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2004)
Dempster  17-6  2.96 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2008)
Lilly     15-8  3.83 ERA  1.14 WHIP (2007)

Edited December 9, 2008 by UMFan83

[Jehrico]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

What does Hendry risk loosing out on by waiting a couple of days? The price can only come down, he's not competing against anyone, so the price isn't going to go up. I'm not putting too much stock into anything until after the last day of the meetings. If both sides are somewhat versed in basic negotiation practices, the Padres people (Towers included) should be saying whatever they need to say to put pressure on Hendry to make a deal now that they've got what they feels is an acceptable framework together. Hendry should be having his people leak to the media that he's hesitant and the price is too high, and see if Towers comes down. What normally would happen in a deal for someone like Peavy is you're competing against other teams, and there may be a good reason to pull the trigger quickly. Hendry is in the drivers seat, and time is on his side. Like I said in an earlier post, he is playing this one absolutely right.

[AZCub]

Just to tease everyone a little more, this is our projected rotation based on their best big league seasons. The good news is that 4/5 pitchers had their best year within the last 2 seasons, and 4/5 had their best season at least partially with the Cubs:

 

Peavy     19-6  2.54 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2007)
Harden    10-2  2.07 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2008)
Zambrano  16-8  2.75 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2004)
Dempster  17-6  2.96 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2008)
Lilly     15-8  3.83 ERA  1.14 WHIP (2007)

 

 

:clapping:

[JWCUB]

My guess is things will heat up again later on this evening.

[Rob]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

 

There's nothing to indicate a deal is in place... just that Towers has said there's a group of players he'd accept. Hendry still would have to negotiate with other teams to acquire those players (most likely, find a package to acquire the right prospects from Philly)

 

It's not as simple as "pulling the trigger"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just to tease everyone a little more, this is our projected rotation based on their best big league seasons. The good news is that 4/5 pitchers had their best year within the last 2 seasons, and 4/5 had their best season at least partially with the Cubs:

 

Peavy     19-6  2.54 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2007)
Harden    10-2  2.07 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2008)
Zambrano  16-8  2.75 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2004)
Dempster  17-6  2.96 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2008)
Lilly     15-8  3.83 ERA  1.14 WHIP (2007)

 

Same five pitchers, cherrypicking the worst of their previous three seasons as starting pitchers:

 

46 innings,, 104 ERA+

202 innings, 99 ERA+

189 innings, 114 ERA+

115 innings, 63 ERA+

182 innings, 106 ERA+

[UMFan83]

Just to tease everyone a little more, this is our projected rotation based on their best big league seasons. The good news is that 4/5 pitchers had their best year within the last 2 seasons, and 4/5 had their best season at least partially with the Cubs:

 

Peavy     19-6  2.54 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2007)
Harden    10-2  2.07 ERA  1.06 WHIP (2008)
Zambrano  16-8  2.75 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2004)
Dempster  17-6  2.96 ERA  1.21 WHIP (2008)
Lilly     15-8  3.83 ERA  1.14 WHIP (2007)

 

Same five pitchers, cherrypicking the worst of their previous three seasons as starting pitchers:

 

46 innings,, 104 ERA+

202 innings, 99 ERA+

189 innings, 114 ERA+

115 innings, 63 ERA+

182 innings, 106 ERA+

 

I love you Kyle

[PrimeTime]

Zambrano is not being traded. He has complete no-trade, and he took less money to get it than he could have gotten on the open market.

 

Peavy wants to stay in the NL. He wants to go to the Cubs. Towers was being honest yesterday when he said it was down to one team. The Cubs continue to say the left-handed bat is their top priority. But there doesn't seem to be a rush on that because the market isn't moving. The prices for Ibanez, Abreu and Bradley and whoever else will only come down as time drags on.

 

Towers has said that it's all up to Jim now from his quotes yesterday and today, What's keeping him from pulling the trigger and being hesitant? Towers seems to want to get this done asap. Usually Hendry is real quick when it comes to getting a caliber player such as Peavy.

 

There's nothing to indicate a deal is in place... just that Towers has said there's a group of players he'd accept. Hendry still would have to negotiate with other teams to acquire those players (most likely, find a package to acquire the right prospects from Philly)

 

It's not as simple as "pulling the trigger"

 

Ya I know..It's only day 2 of the meetings but all this talk and hearing its on the verge of being done or " very close " then saying it's not close is a rollercoaster ride and just makes you want to get this done before something happens and the whole thing is off like the Roberts fiasco. Marquis is probably a factor thats making this difficult since they really want and need to dump his contract.