Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[Little Slide Rooter]

Roto just picked up on it

 

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, those close to Cubs GM Jim Hendry expect him to restart the Jake Peavy talks with the Padres.

 

The Padres' new ownership isn't in control yet, but the assumption is that the team no longer really needs to move Peavy. At the very least, it seems likely that a bigger package would be required in return, and the Cubs weren't willing to meet their asking price when talks concluded last month.

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

 

I dont know about the rest of you, but when this is all said and done, and Peavy is still on the Padres, I'll never want to hear the words Peavy or Towers again.

[RedFlash]

I'm sure that San Francisco is just dying to trade a top notch 24 year old pitcher under club control for three more seasons for a 33 year old league-average first baseman making $13 million.

 

That and the fact that Hendry has shown no willingness to even ask Lee to waive his NTC, much less entertain offers. So any talk of moving Lee is pretty much moot.

[davearm2]

I'm sure that San Francisco is just dying to trade a top notch 24 year old pitcher under club control for three more seasons for a 33 year old league-average first baseman making $13 million.

 

That and the fact that Hendry has shown no willingness to even ask Lee to waive his NTC, much less entertain offers. So any talk of moving Lee is pretty much moot.

There were reports earlier this offseason that Lee had been asked to waive his NTC and he declined.

[AZCub]

Derrek Lee isn’t waiving his NTC to go to San Fran. Why would you assume he would do that?

 

To go from a winning team to a losing team? That sounds fun.

 

Not to mention DLee has an extreme attachment to Chicago right now because of the medical care needs of his daughter with LCA. Chicago is one of the only major baseball markets that has a hospital that works exclusively with the disease.

 

DLee will finish his contract with the Cubs, barring some sort of final year/Cubs losing/dealt to a winner type scenario.

[wrigley23]

with a bat or two, the Giants would be salty in that division. Their pitching is pretty damn good.

[Post Count Padder]

with a bat or two, the Giants would be salty in that division. Their pitching is pretty damn good.

Yeah, but they have nobody on offense.

[Cubswin11]

It's possible that a lineup that included Lee, Renteria, Rowand and Molina could shatter the record for team GIDP in one season.

[Clem Fandango]

As alternatives, Wittenmyer suggests Braden Looper and Tim Redding would fit better financially than Derek Lowe. Dave van Dyck wonders if Andy Pettitte could be a fit.

 

Why have people assumed over the years that Andy Pettitte is some sort of top tier pitcher worthy of a top tier salary? Sure he's had a few great seasons, but other than that he's been a perennial #4 or #5. I wish people would stop drinking the "Andy Pettitte OMG Yankee Legend!!!!" Kool Aid. At this stage in his career, he's worth $5 or $6 mil a season, but he's going to ask for $10-$12 I would assume, and someone is probably going to give it to him

[haubrich91]

No way to Andy Pettitte.

 

Does he honestly think he's getting more than $10 Million?

[jersey cubs fan]

No way to Andy Pettitte.

 

Does he honestly think he's getting more than $10 Million?

 

He sees NY paying big for all these other pitchers, and he wants in. Playing hard to get has worked before.

[Clem Fandango]

No way to Andy Pettitte.

 

Does he honestly think he's getting more than $10 Million?

 

He rejected a one-year $10 million offer from the Yankees. So maybe he wants more, which is absurd

[haubrich91]

No way to Andy Pettitte.

 

Does he honestly think he's getting more than $10 Million?

 

He rejected a one-year $10 million offer from the Yankees. So maybe he wants more, which is absurd

 

Which is why I asked why does he think he's getting more than that? I don't see any teams paying that much for him.

[rocket]

No way to Andy Pettitte.

 

Does he honestly think he's getting more than $10 Million?

 

if pat burrell is worth 2 years 16 million in this market, then andy pettite should have to pay a team to let him play.

[Sever82]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

[UMFan83]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

[Cubswin11]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

Alderson also said he didn't believe the likely sale of the team has changed their position on Peavy at all.

If new ownership isn't changing their position, wasn't their "position" to move Peavy to keep payroll around $40 mi.? So why would they all of the sudden keep him now if they aren't changing their "position"?

[Sever82]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

 

 

Well i mean there is a report out there that supposedly it wasn't the cubs who pulled out but the Padres back in the winter meetings. So maybe the cubs were willing to make the deal, I mean before it was reported that the padres and cubs couldn't come to an agreement cause the cubs didnt want to trade marshall and derosa. Turn two weeks later, they trade derosa away, do you honestly think they wouldn't have parted with a package of Vitters, Derosa, Marshall, Pie and Hart/Guzman for Peavy ? I honestly feel the situation the cubs are in is almost identical to the roberts situation. I dont buy the cutting payroll argument and how the padres need to move peavy because if they were intent on moving peavy because of payroll reasons they wouldn't done it by now. I think the cubs chances are slim to none now because what makes people think a new ownership in SD would trade their Top player, most marketable player and fan favorite. Like i said the only way they trade peavy is if the cubs offer the farm system for him or if peavy forces their hand.

[Sever82]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

Alderson also said he didn't believe the likely sale of the team has changed their position on Peavy at all.

If new ownership isn't changing their position, wasn't their "position" to move Peavy to keep payroll around $40 mi.? So why would they all of the sudden keep him now if they aren't changing their "position"?

 

I dont believe that statement at all, what new ownership would introduce themselves to the fans of SD by trading away their favorite player, not going to happen. Just look at it this way, in 2001, let say the Tribune company sold the Cubs to the Ricketts family and the cubs were struggling financially, do you honestly think they would trade away Kerry Wood to free up money or better yet, would they trade away Sammy Sosa?

[Cubswin11]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

 

 

Well i mean there is a report out there that supposedly it wasn't the cubs who pulled out but the Padres back in the winter meetings. So maybe the cubs were willing to make the deal, I mean before it was reported that the padres and cubs couldn't come to an agreement cause the cubs didnt want to trade marshall and derosa. Turn two weeks later, they trade derosa away, do you honestly think they wouldn't have parted with a package of Vitters, Derosa, Marshall, Pie and Hart/Guzman for Peavy ? I honestly feel the situation the cubs are in is almost identical to the roberts situation. I dont buy the cutting payroll argument and how the padres need to move peavy because if they were intent on moving peavy because of payroll reasons they wouldn't done it by now. I think the cubs chances are slim to none now because what makes people think a new ownership in SD would trade their Top player, most marketable player and fan favorite. Like i said the only way they trade peavy is if the cubs offer the farm system for him or if peavy forces their hand.

Not to be dic* here, I think a strong argument can be made on either side here. But The same thing could be said about the new Cubs ownership coming in. What better way to win over the fans and show them you are committed to winning/spending than to trade for one of top pitchers in all of baseball.

[Sever82]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

 

 

Well i mean there is a report out there that supposedly it wasn't the cubs who pulled out but the Padres back in the winter meetings. So maybe the cubs were willing to make the deal, I mean before it was reported that the padres and cubs couldn't come to an agreement cause the cubs didnt want to trade marshall and derosa. Turn two weeks later, they trade derosa away, do you honestly think they wouldn't have parted with a package of Vitters, Derosa, Marshall, Pie and Hart/Guzman for Peavy ? I honestly feel the situation the cubs are in is almost identical to the roberts situation. I dont buy the cutting payroll argument and how the padres need to move peavy because if they were intent on moving peavy because of payroll reasons they wouldn't done it by now. I think the cubs chances are slim to none now because what makes people think a new ownership in SD would trade their Top player, most marketable player and fan favorite. Like i said the only way they trade peavy is if the cubs offer the farm system for him or if peavy forces their hand.

Not to be dic* here, I think a strong argument can be made on either side here. But The same thing could be said about the new Cubs ownership coming in. What better way to win over the fans and show them you are committed to winning/spending than to trade for one of top pitchers in all of baseball.

 

Doesn't work that way buddy, i'm pretty sure the new ownership would probably love to trade for peavy or bring peavy in and whatever. But we dont hold peavy, the padres do and must be willing to part with him. So no, the same thing can not be said because just because an owner wants a player, doesn't mean he'll get him.

[rchap24]

Ok bad news again ](*,)

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

Cubs To Restart Peavy Talks?

By Tim Dierkes [January 7 at 3:32pm CST]

 

3:32pm: Padres CEO Sandy Alderson doesn't believe there have been new talks with the Cubs, though that is not exactly what Wittenmyer said below. Alderson said it's likely Peavy will be with the Padres on Opening Day. He added that the Padres were never that close to a deal with the Braves and did not have an offer from the Cubs on which they could give a yes or no. Also, he doesn't believe the team's impending sale changes their position on Peavy

[Cubswin11]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/38701-padres-ceo-pessimistic-about-peavy-deal

 

I'm starting to think we were never really close to a Peavy deal and i think there is about a 10% chance we get Peavy. From the above article and the ownership situation in SD i doubt Peavy is even put out there as trade bait anymore. The only way i see peavy being moved is if Peavy is so frustrated about almost being a cub that he forces a trade from the padres by expressing his dissapointment in the organization.

 

That seems optimistic to me. Last I read the Padres weren't even putting Peavy on the market anymore. This article makes it seems like the market is closing but they are still listening to offers and will discuss things with teams like the Cubs.

 

 

Well i mean there is a report out there that supposedly it wasn't the cubs who pulled out but the Padres back in the winter meetings. So maybe the cubs were willing to make the deal, I mean before it was reported that the padres and cubs couldn't come to an agreement cause the cubs didnt want to trade marshall and derosa. Turn two weeks later, they trade derosa away, do you honestly think they wouldn't have parted with a package of Vitters, Derosa, Marshall, Pie and Hart/Guzman for Peavy ? I honestly feel the situation the cubs are in is almost identical to the roberts situation. I dont buy the cutting payroll argument and how the padres need to move peavy because if they were intent on moving peavy because of payroll reasons they wouldn't done it by now. I think the cubs chances are slim to none now because what makes people think a new ownership in SD would trade their Top player, most marketable player and fan favorite. Like i said the only way they trade peavy is if the cubs offer the farm system for him or if peavy forces their hand.

Not to be dic* here, I think a strong argument can be made on either side here. But The same thing could be said about the new Cubs ownership coming in. What better way to win over the fans and show them you are committed to winning/spending than to trade for one of top pitchers in all of baseball.

 

Doesn't work that way buddy, i'm pretty sure the new ownership would probably love to trade for peavy or bring peavy in and whatever. But we dont hold peavy, the padres do and must be willing to part with him. So no, the same thing can not be said because just because an owner wants a player, doesn't mean he'll get him.

I know it's not that easy, and it's no like an owner can just say I want that player or this player and expect it to get done, and it takes both sides to be motivated to make a move. But if a deal hinges on the Cubs new owner approval, and the FO spins it the owner(s) made it possible to get done, it could do wonders for the owner(s) public perception before the first pitch is even thrown this season.

Edited January 7, 2009 by Cubswin11

[Sever82]

Ok bad news again ](*,)

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

Cubs To Restart Peavy Talks?

By Tim Dierkes [January 7 at 3:32pm CST]

 

3:32pm: Padres CEO Sandy Alderson doesn't believe there have been new talks with the Cubs, though that is not exactly what Wittenmyer said below. Alderson said it's likely Peavy will be with the Padres on Opening Day. He added that the Padres were never that close to a deal with the Braves and did not have an offer from the Cubs on which they could give a yes or no. Also, he doesn't believe the team's impending sale changes their position on Peavy

 

Wow this is the second time today you posted an article that someone else had already posted. Is your internet just that slow that you can't refresh and it takes you 15-30 minutes to get an update?

[rchap24]

Ok bad news again ](*,)

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

Cubs To Restart Peavy Talks?

By Tim Dierkes [January 7 at 3:32pm CST]

 

3:32pm: Padres CEO Sandy Alderson doesn't believe there have been new talks with the Cubs, though that is not exactly what Wittenmyer said below. Alderson said it's likely Peavy will be with the Padres on Opening Day. He added that the Padres were never that close to a deal with the Braves and did not have an offer from the Cubs on which they could give a yes or no. Also, he doesn't believe the team's impending sale changes their position on Peavy

 

Wow this is the second time today you posted an article that someone else had already posted. Is your internet just that slow that you can't refresh and it takes you 15-30 minutes to get an update?

 

My bad if I don't see it on the last page then I add it...Sorry Delete it

[cubsfan26]

I'm not surprised at all that there aren't current talks with the Cubs and Padres. The Cubs can't add him until they get a new owner, so they will wait until then to ask about Peavy.