College Football - Week of 10/25

[snoodmonger]

I would masturbate onto my TV screen if Washington beat ND. How great would that be?

[Andy]

I would masturbate onto my TV screen if Washington beat ND. How great would that be?

Seattle's been through enough in the last year what with the Sonics being stolen from them. Anything that might lead to another year of crappy recruiting and horrible coaching upon the poor UW fans should be the opposite of what anyone wants.

[CubinNY]

I would masturbate onto my TV screen if Washington beat ND. How great would that be?

Very masturbatory.

[imb]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

[RedFlash]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

[Andy]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

[RedFlash]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

Yeah well, that's good and all but if Ty knew he was going to get fired from ND why should he help them with recruiting? I mean they fired Ty after three seasons, and according to this logic Weiss should be fired after this yr, or perhaps even last yr. So I don't blame Ty for interviewing for another job instead of recruiting for your now ex-school. ND take the majority blame in the Ty Willingham situation because Ty is a good coach and he would have gotten them to where they want to be, but they refused to be patient. I'm not saying Ty is innocent, but ND was clearly looking for the hot new name of coaches and they dumped Ty at their first sign of adversity. And that ain't right, IMO.

[Derwood]

It's going to be a long, nerve-wracking day waiting for the game tomorrow.

[Andy]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

Yeah well, that's good and all but if Ty knew he was going to get fired from ND why should he help them with recruiting? I mean they fired Ty after three seasons, and according to this logic Weiss should be fired after this yr, or perhaps even last yr. So I don't blame Ty for interviewing for another job instead of recruiting for your now ex-school. ND take the majority blame in the Ty Willingham situation because Ty is a good coach and he would have gotten them to where they want to be, but they refused to be patient. I'm not saying Ty is innocent, but ND was clearly looking for the hot new name of coaches and they dumped Ty at their first sign of adversity. And that ain't right, IMO.

Ty is going to end his career as the worst coach percentage-wise in Washington football history. He replaced a guy who got fired after 20 games. But he's not black, so nobody cares.

 

Ty is not a good coach. That's simple fact. He won a few games at Stanford, I'm not sure how. Then he got a smoke-and-mirrors 8-0 start at ND (with Bob Davie's recruits) that was predicated mostly on a bunch of turnovers. But he recruited pathetically at Notre Dame, didn't know how to use the few good guys he did recruit (Samardzija barely used for two years, Darius Walker not even on the plane to the first game of his freshman season), and made some dumbfounding decisions (punting from BC's 30 yard line in one memorable game, then later sending out our kicker for a 57-yard field goal to try to win it - you figure that one out). Then he cut bait and ran for another job as soon as he realized he might actually be held accountable for his poor performance. And before ND clobbered his team in 2005, he reprehensibly allowed John Saunders to float racism accusations in an interview when he knew damn well why he'd been fired. Tyrone Willingham is scum.

 

Recently, Dave Mahler, a Seattle sports radio personality who was an enthusiastic Ty supporter early in his Huskies career, went on a 20+ minute rant about his needing to be fired after learning that Ty did not allow players from the 1978 Washington Rose Bowl team to address the Huskies before a recent game. My favorite quote from it was "Everything Notre Dame [fans] warned us about this guy, everything they said has turned out to be true". The casual observer hasn't seen him destroy a football program to know any better, unfortunately.

 

I apologize for the length of this post and the spate of ND discussion it will no doubt perpetuate, but my ability to take ND jibes in stride does not and will never extend to the Tyrone Willingham era.

[imb]

tyrone willingham isn't/wasn't a good coach, but he deserves better than the hindsight, jilted-lover bs those losers at ND gave him after he was gone.

[Andy]

It's going to be a long, nerve-wracking day waiting for the game tomorrow.

I wish our game were earlier so I could watch - that should be a fun one.

[CubInOK]

tyrone willingham isn't/wasn't a good coach, but he deserves better than the hindsight, jilted-lover bs those losers at ND gave him after he was gone.

Did you watch how out of position half of UW's guys were when they played OU? It was sad. They looked and played like they had no hope. Their running backs and receivers couldn't hold onto the ball in that game. You could breathe on the RB and he would fumble.

[TruffleShuffle]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

dude come on, you can dislike willingham for the job he did at notre dame, but how can you rip on him for talking to another school rather than staying in south bend to recruit for a school that everyone knew was going to fire him?

[Guest]

tyrone willingham isn't/wasn't a good coach, but he deserves better than the hindsight, jilted-lover bs those losers at ND gave him after he was gone.

 

Agreed.

[Andy]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

dude come on, you can dislike willingham for the job he did at notre dame, but how can you rip on him for talking to another school rather than staying in south bend to recruit for a school that everyone knew was going to fire him?

Because you don't quit on the team it's your job to coach during the season and go out looking for other work. I'm all for people looking for other work after the season, and especially so if you're a small-time coach looking for a big-time job, i.e. the offers Brady Hoke is probably going to get once Ball State finishes the season. I'm fine with all of that. But during the season is a big breach of ethics to me.

[Andy]

tyrone willingham isn't/wasn't a good coach, but he deserves better than the hindsight, jilted-lover bs those losers at ND gave him after he was gone.

 

Agreed.

I don't think the Ty hate would be nearly as strong if the national media hadn't spent that entire off-season - and occasional unprovoked potshots since - blasting Notre Dame for being racist and blatantly fabricating facts like 'he's the first coach to be fired before his contract was up'. Not true, since Bob Davie was fired one year into a five-year contract extension. Or 'booted him out with no warning'. Not true, there were buyout terms after 3 years in the contract, and in fact last year ND paid Willingham more not to coach for them than they did Charlie Weis. Or 'he cleaned up a program in scandal'. There was no scandal, unless you count Notre Dame finding a resume falsification that had escaped George O'Leary's previous three employers as 'scandal', and Willingham did absolutely nothing in the academics department since ND has always been a good academic football school - and in fact has posted its best team GPAs ever under Weis. And the whole 'Charlie was winning with Ty's players' ridiculousness, which looks even more hypocritical since Charlie is now winning with his own players while Ty is getting absolutely destroyed with his at UW.

 

There's little doubt that Willingham deserves better than what he's getting from Notre Dame fans, but he probably deserves worse than what he's getting from everybody else, so it all evens out nicely. I'm just happy that after we pound him again tomorrow and he gets the axe after this year (I'm convinced the only reason UW didn't fire him last year was to avoid a possible media onslaught for dumping him after 3 years like we did) that this story might possibly have a chance of dying.

[TruffleShuffle]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

dude come on, you can dislike willingham for the job he did at notre dame, but how can you rip on him for talking to another school rather than staying in south bend to recruit for a school that everyone knew was going to fire him?

Because you don't quit on the team it's your job to coach during the season and go out looking for other work. I'm all for people looking for other work after the season, and especially so if you're a small-time coach looking for a big-time job, i.e. the offers Brady Hoke is probably going to get once Ball State finishes the season. I'm fine with all of that. But during the season is a big breach of ethics to me.

 

oh ok, silly ty for not showing loyalty to a school that wasn't showing him any loyalty.

[weis21]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

dude come on, you can dislike willingham for the job he did at notre dame, but how can you rip on him for talking to another school rather than staying in south bend to recruit for a school that everyone knew was going to fire him?

Because you don't quit on the team it's your job to coach during the season and go out looking for other work. I'm all for people looking for other work after the season, and especially so if you're a small-time coach looking for a big-time job, i.e. the offers Brady Hoke is probably going to get once Ball State finishes the season. I'm fine with all of that. But during the season is a big breach of ethics to me.

 

oh ok, silly ty for not showing loyalty to a school that wasn't showing him any loyalty.

 

He was still being payed by ND to perform the responsibilities of a football coach to the best of his abilities. If he purposely doesn't do that , then yeah, it's unethical.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

it would be the feel good story of college football season if uw destroyed notre dame

 

UW doesn't even have to "destroy' ND for it to be a feel good story. I would love nothing else to see Ty stick it to ND.

Unfortunately, Ty is coaching the other team, so he can't stick it to ND in any way besides perhaps to float more ridiculous racism accusations. But maybe he can go interview for another job while still employed at UW, like he did when he zipped off during the bye week before his last game as the ND coach and interviewed at UW. You know, instead of recruiting.

 

dude come on, you can dislike willingham for the job he did at notre dame, but how can you rip on him for talking to another school rather than staying in south bend to recruit for a school that everyone knew was going to fire him?

Because you don't quit on the team it's your job to coach during the season and go out looking for other work. I'm all for people looking for other work after the season, and especially so if you're a small-time coach looking for a big-time job, i.e. the offers Brady Hoke is probably going to get once Ball State finishes the season. I'm fine with all of that. But during the season is a big breach of ethics to me.

 

While that may sound all nice and well in an utopian world, that's not a real world expectation.

 

Assume for a moment that I learn from a reliable source that I'm going to be fired at the end of the school year in May. While I will still teach my students, grade papers, and show up for work, I'm probably not going to do anything above and beyond just the normal carrying out of duties. I'll probably just make a skeletal lesson plan without any thought or work involved. I'm also probably going to be doing a lot to lay the foundation for my future job search. Is this ethical? Maybe not. But it is quite realistic as I'm going to feel I owe nothing to the people who are about to fire me.

[hawkeyecub]

tyrone willingham isn't/wasn't a good coach, but he deserves better than the hindsight, jilted-lover bs those losers at ND gave him after he was gone.

 

Agreed.

And the whole 'Charlie was winning with Ty's players' ridiculousness, which looks even more hypocritical since Charlie is now winning with his own players while Ty is getting absolutely destroyed with his at UW.

 

Yes Charlie is really winning big with his own players.

 

3-9 last year while Ty went 4-9. 4-2 this year with the wins coming against teams with a combined 9-20 record, every one of them at home. Oh and that SDSU team they beat by 8 has been outscored in MWC play 146-24.

 

Meanwhile, the worst team Washington has played is Stanford whom they lost to by 7. The same Stanford that ND beat by 7. They were hosed out of a chance to beat BYU who may be better than anyone ND has played.

 

Yes Charlie is proving he can beat up on nobodies at home while Ty is getting beaten up by a very tough schedule and by far his best player missing the last two games.

[shnsajax]

Why even talk about the UW vs. ND game? We can all argue who has the prettiest piece of turd another day. We have a couple of really good games today that will have a major impact on next weeks polls, and a couple of potential sleepers as well.

[snoodmonger]

well that wasnt a good start

[Mark_R]

Kijana Carter sold me my beer.

 

Helen Keller is Lou Holtz' translator.

 

Awesome.

[inari]

Man, this Wisconsin team is just terrible.

[shnsajax]

well that wasnt a good start

 

The Tech defense is not good at all. KU will put up a lot of points, already 7-7.