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Missouri beat Illinois by 10 on a "neutral" field (yes, I know the distance is equal, but nobody on the Missouri side of the state line roots for Illinois, so let's stop calling it a neutral field), and PSU beat Illinois by 14 at home. Neither game was a "donglashing", and Illinois isn't even the second best team in the Big Ten right now, so to say that Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma would crush anyone in the Big Ten is hyperbole at best, and an outright fable at worst.

 

I think you overrate the difference between the top of the Big 12 and the top half of the Big Ten quite a bit.

 

That final score of the Missouri game is a bit misleading and you know it. UI scored a meaningless TD with no time left to bring them back to within 10. And I believe Maclin missed a big portion of the game, too. Was the game a blowout? No. But Mizzou won it fairly handily. C'mon. Don't put me in the lame position of having to defend those clowns.

 

In summary: Donglashings aplenty from the Big 12's top 3 if they played in the Big 10.

 

Aww how nice. Want me to get you a Mizzou shirt?

 

if we ever meet, i'm gonna punch you right in the snatch.

 

I'll use the Mizzou shirt I bought you to block it.

 

ask snood who people say he physically resembles irl (hint: it's a big 12 north QB)

 

Josh Freeman?

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Missouri beat Illinois by 10 on a "neutral" field (yes, I know the distance is equal, but nobody on the Missouri side of the state line roots for Illinois, so let's stop calling it a neutral field), and PSU beat Illinois by 14 at home. Neither game was a "donglashing", and Illinois isn't even the second best team in the Big Ten right now, so to say that Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma would crush anyone in the Big Ten is hyperbole at best, and an outright fable at worst.

 

I think you overrate the difference between the top of the Big 12 and the top half of the Big Ten quite a bit.

 

That final score of the Missouri game is a bit misleading and you know it. UI scored a meaningless TD with no time left to bring them back to within 10. And I believe Maclin missed a big portion of the game, too. Was the game a blowout? No. But Mizzou won it fairly handily. C'mon. Don't put me in the lame position of having to defend those clowns.

 

In summary: Donglashings aplenty from the Big 12's top 3 if they played in the Big 10.

 

Aww how nice. Want me to get you a Mizzou shirt?

 

if we ever meet, i'm gonna punch you right in the snatch.

 

I'll use the Mizzou shirt I bought you to block it.

 

You better hope it provides a stiffer defense than Mizzou's secondary.

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I don't know how anyone could argue that the Big 10 is better than the Big 12. The Big 12 has four teams ranked in the top 7, the Big 10 has one. The Big 12 has six ranked teams, the Big 10 has three. The bottom feeders of the Big 10 (Iowa, IU, Michigan) might be better than those in the Big 12 (Baylor, ISU, A&M) but it still doesn't come close making up for how much better the top of the Big 12 is. The Big 12 has four teams that would have a legitimate chance at going undefeated in the Big 10 (and who knows what KU and OK St. would do), while PSU is the only team that would stand a chance in the Big 12 (OSU is Howry). When it's all said and done, the Big 12 might be the best conference in the nation this season.

 

frankly, all the "my conference is better than yours" talk is getting pretty old. who cares?

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Missouri beat Illinois by 10 on a "neutral" field (yes, I know the distance is equal, but nobody on the Missouri side of the state line roots for Illinois, so let's stop calling it a neutral field), and PSU beat Illinois by 14 at home. Neither game was a "donglashing", and Illinois isn't even the second best team in the Big Ten right now, so to say that Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma would crush anyone in the Big Ten is hyperbole at best, and an outright fable at worst.

 

I think you overrate the difference between the top of the Big 12 and the top half of the Big Ten quite a bit.

 

That final score of the Missouri game is a bit misleading and you know it. UI scored a meaningless TD with no time left to bring them back to within 10. And I believe Maclin missed a big portion of the game, too. Was the game a blowout? No. But Mizzou won it fairly handily. C'mon. Don't put me in the lame position of having to defend those clowns.

 

In summary: Donglashings aplenty from the Big 12's top 3 if they played in the Big 10.

 

Aww how nice. Want me to get you a Mizzou shirt?

 

if we ever meet, i'm gonna punch you right in the snatch.

 

I'll use the Mizzou shirt I bought you to block it.

 

You better hope it provides a stiffer defense than Mizzou's secondary.

 

Hmm? It's hard to hear someone who is that far down in the rankings.

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Missouri beat Illinois by 10 on a "neutral" field (yes, I know the distance is equal, but nobody on the Missouri side of the state line roots for Illinois, so let's stop calling it a neutral field), and PSU beat Illinois by 14 at home. Neither game was a "donglashing", and Illinois isn't even the second best team in the Big Ten right now, so to say that Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma would crush anyone in the Big Ten is hyperbole at best, and an outright fable at worst.

 

I think you overrate the difference between the top of the Big 12 and the top half of the Big Ten quite a bit.

 

That final score of the Missouri game is a bit misleading and you know it. UI scored a meaningless TD with no time left to bring them back to within 10. And I believe Maclin missed a big portion of the game, too. Was the game a blowout? No. But Mizzou won it fairly handily. C'mon. Don't put me in the lame position of having to defend those clowns.

 

In summary: Donglashings aplenty from the Big 12's top 3 if they played in the Big 10.

 

Aww how nice. Want me to get you a Mizzou shirt?

 

if we ever meet, i'm gonna punch you right in the snatch.

 

I'll use the Mizzou shirt I bought you to block it.

 

ask snood who people say he physically resembles irl (hint: it's a big 12 north QB)

 

Josh Freeman?

 

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/madhops_42/sab.jpg

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tough to say who would win head-to-head between PSU and some of the Big XII teams....PSU hasn't faced an offense as explosive as Mizzou or Oklahoma. Illinois was the best offense they've faced (and probably will face, as OSU under Pryor is about the same thing). If PSU somehow makes it to the NC game, they will probably face (by far) the best offense they'll have seen all year
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Missouri beat Illinois by 10 on a "neutral" field (yes, I know the distance is equal, but nobody on the Missouri side of the state line roots for Illinois, so let's stop calling it a neutral field), and PSU beat Illinois by 14 at home. Neither game was a "donglashing", and Illinois isn't even the second best team in the Big Ten right now, so to say that Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma would crush anyone in the Big Ten is hyperbole at best, and an outright fable at worst.

 

I think you overrate the difference between the top of the Big 12 and the top half of the Big Ten quite a bit.

 

That final score of the Missouri game is a bit misleading and you know it. UI scored a meaningless TD with no time left to bring them back to within 10. And I believe Maclin missed a big portion of the game, too. Was the game a blowout? No. But Mizzou won it fairly handily. C'mon. Don't put me in the lame position of having to defend those clowns.

 

In summary: Donglashings aplenty from the Big 12's top 3 if they played in the Big 10.

 

Aww how nice. Want me to get you a Mizzou shirt?

 

TRUE STORY: Chase Daniel shirts only come in XL (cause he's fat)

 

I thought he needed a big one to dry all the tears.

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tough to say who would win head-to-head between PSU and some of the Big XII teams....PSU hasn't faced an offense as explosive as Mizzou or Oklahoma. Illinois was the best offense they've faced (and probably will face, as OSU under Pryor is about the same thing). If PSU somehow makes it to the NC game, they will probably face (by far) the best offense they'll have seen all year

 

That's the thing. If they play OU or MU, they'll need a huge push up front to disrupt their QBs. Otherwise both those guys will pick any team apart.

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tough to say who would win head-to-head between PSU and some of the Big XII teams....PSU hasn't faced an offense as explosive as Mizzou or Oklahoma. Illinois was the best offense they've faced (and probably will face, as OSU under Pryor is about the same thing). If PSU somehow makes it to the NC game, they will probably face (by far) the best offense they'll have seen all year

 

That's the thing. If they play OU or MU, they'll need a huge push up front to disrupt their QBs. Otherwise both those guys will pick any team apart.

 

The completion% right now in the Big12 is insane:

1. Colt McCoy, Texas 103 130 1280 79.2

2. Chase Daniel, Missouri 119 156 1665 76.3

3. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 106 146 1665 72.6

4. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St 62 86 1035 72.1

5. Todd Reesing, Kansas 144 205 1724 70.2

6. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech 158 237 2027 66.7

 

Plus the Big12 has some of the best Olines right now in College.

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I don't know how anyone could argue that the Big 10 is better than the Big 12. The Big 12 has four teams ranked in the top 7, the Big 10 has one. The Big 12 has six ranked teams, the Big 10 has three. The bottom feeders of the Big 10 (Iowa, IU, Michigan) might be better than those in the Big 12 (Baylor, ISU, A&M) but it still doesn't come close making up for how much better the top of the Big 12 is. The Big 12 has four teams that would have a legitimate chance at going undefeated in the Big 10 (and who knows what KU and OK St. would do), while PSU is the only team that would stand a chance in the Big 12 (OSU is Howry). When it's all said and done, the Big 12 might be the best conference in the nation this season.

 

frankly, all the "my conference is better than yours" talk is getting pretty old. who cares?

Makes being an independent sound pretty good, eh? :wink:

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I have tickets to the Missouri game, not the OU game. I'm thinking about heading up to Dallas anyways this weekend. However, I have a group theory midterm on Monday. And I hate group theory.
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the big twelve is the new pac 10. oh lord the scoring. that mizzou UT game could be 56-49. imagine if Mizzou and TTU played. 66-62 anyone?

That Mizzou-Pokes game could have 100 combined points.

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As for OU/Texas, I think OU will prevail. Texas's pass defense is ranked in the 90s coming into this game, and they haven't played anyone really good (cept maybe Colorado). Sam and Co. should be licking their chops this week. If the Texas pass defense becomes something that doesn't allow a ton of yards to mediocre competition, this game will be close, and I personally don't have much faith in OU special teams. Otherwise, it will be OU by at least 3 TDs. The teams are statistically similar outside of that glaring pass defense number put up by Texas and the OU special teams.
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As for OU/Texas, I think OU will prevail. Texas's pass defense is ranked in the 90s coming into this game, and they haven't played anyone really good (cept maybe Colorado). Sam and Co. should be licking their chops this week. If the Texas pass defense becomes something that doesn't allow a ton of yards to mediocre competition, this game will be close, and I personally don't have much faith in OU special teams. Otherwise, it will be OU by at least 3 TDs. The teams are statistically similar outside of that glaring pass defense number put up by Texas and the OU special teams.

 

this years' team kind of reminds me of hte 03 team (i like this years' RBs better than jones/works *puke*) and that team ung almost a million points on the,, so who knows.

 

BUT

 

as good as our secondary has been (and LBs for that matter) a lot of it is because of the press our dline gets. And with no granger and a potentially hobbled mccoy, texas is a team that can expose whatever weaknesses are back there. Mccoy is a stud and i kind of find it hard to hate him. I would love for them to have a chris simms qb again that i could literally hate with every fiber of my being again

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i am definitely setting aside three hours to watch the red river shootout. and i still don't know if psu is as good as they seem; winning a night game at camp randall is still no easy task.
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As for OU/Texas, I think OU will prevail. Texas's pass defense is ranked in the 90s coming into this game, and they haven't played anyone really good (cept maybe Colorado). Sam and Co. should be licking their chops this week. If the Texas pass defense becomes something that doesn't allow a ton of yards to mediocre competition, this game will be close, and I personally don't have much faith in OU special teams. Otherwise, it will be OU by at least 3 TDs. The teams are statistically similar outside of that glaring pass defense number put up by Texas and the OU special teams.

 

this years' team kind of reminds me of hte 03 team (i like this years' RBs better than jones/works *puke*) and that team ung almost a million points on the,, so who knows.

 

BUT

 

as good as our secondary has been (and LBs for that matter) a lot of it is because of the press our dline gets. And with no granger and a potentially hobbled mccoy, texas is a team that can expose whatever weaknesses are back there. Mccoy is a stud and i kind of find it hard to hate him. I would love for them to have a chris simms qb again that i could literally hate with every fiber of my being again

Gerald McCoy, DeMarcus Granger, and Jon Cooper all practiced today. :good:

 

Meph, if you have the chance to go to Dallas this weekend, go. You'll have a great time. Some of the most fun times I had as an undergrad came in Dallas on OU/texas weekend.

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I really don't get how some of you think that Penn State is clearly the class of the Big 10 and how they're a sure thing to beat Ohio State. I know Ohio State got hammered by USC but Beanie Wells is back and the game is in Columbus. At this point, I'm not sure Penn State's even favored in that game.
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I really don't get how some of you think that Penn State is clearly the class of the Big 10 and how they're a sure thing to beat Ohio State. I know Ohio State got hammered by USC but Beanie Wells is back and the game is in Columbus. At this point, I'm not sure Penn State's even favored in that game.

 

If neither lose again before the 25th, Ohio State will be favored over Penn State at home.

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