Jake Peavy: Available.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I definitely don't doubt Donnie's story, but in the end I think this is what's going to happen. Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he wants to go to Chicago. However, SD isn't going to come to a package agreement with the Cubs, and they'll get an offer they like from ATL. It'll be getting later in the offseason, so while Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he also doesn't want to be a Padre again, so he'll watch his NTC for the Braves.

[RyneDawson]

I definitely don't doubt Donnie's story, but in the end I think this is what's going to happen. Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he wants to go to Chicago. However, SD isn't going to come to a package agreement with the Cubs, and they'll get an offer they like from ATL. It'll be getting later in the offseason, so while Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he also doesn't want to be a Padre again, so he'll watch his NTC for the Braves.

 

Atlanta already said they are out. They are moving on, and won't get Jake Peavy. I agree with the direction of your story though, but I think he'll end up on a different surprise team like LA. I can totally see the Dodgers come out of no where and steal him just like they did with Furcal from us. But it just depends on how much Towers really doesn't want to trade him within the division. I just don't get why no other teams are interested. Hendry needs to get this done as quickly as possible.

[C.C.]

$$$

[Little Slide Rooter]

I definitely don't doubt Donnie's story, but in the end I think this is what's going to happen. Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he wants to go to Chicago. However, SD isn't going to come to a package agreement with the Cubs, and they'll get an offer they like from ATL. It'll be getting later in the offseason, so while Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he also doesn't want to be a Padre again, so he'll watch his NTC for the Braves.

 

Atlanta already said they are out. They are moving on, and won't get Jake Peavy. I agree with the direction of your story though, but I think he'll end up on a different surprise team like LA. I can totally see the Dodgers come out of no where and steal him just like they did with Furcal from us. But it just depends on how much Towers really doesn't want to trade him within the division. I just don't get why no other teams are interested. Hendry needs to get this done as quickly as possible.

 

That means nothing. Its just politics. If the Padres come back to the Braves, and agree to their tems, the Braves will jump right back in. Many other teams would be interested, but he had a list of teams hed be willing to go to, and of those teams, the Cubs and Braves have been the most agressive. The Yankees and Angels have also been interested, but Peavy expressed that he wants to stay in the NL, however, there is reason to belive that he could be convinced to go to the Yanks or Angels, as he has a strong desire to be with a contender, rather than some guys who are content with a team close to home, and I find that very respectable.

 

I get the feeling that if Hendry truely has the desire, he can make a deal happen, but if not, he could just re sign Dempster and focus on getting a left handed bat.

[CP_414]

Rosenthal again reports the Yankees are in the mix.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8797906/Peavy-could-still-end-up-in-the-American-League?MSNHPHMA

 

He says the Angels will be in if they can't sign Tex. He says if the Cubs sign Dempster that could end our pursuit of Peavy. The Padres might just wait out the Braves free agency...

 

 

It doesn't look like this will be resolved anytime soon. Hendry, let's sign Adam Dunn while we are waiting.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Rosenthal again reports the Yankees are in the mix.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8797906/Peavy-could-still-end-up-in-the-American-League?MSNHPHMA

 

He says the Angels will be in if they can't sign Tex. He says if the Cubs sign Dempster that could end our pursuit of Peavy. The Padres might just wait out the Braves free agency...

 

 

It doesn't look like this will be resolved anytime soon. Hendry, let's sign Adam Dunn while we are waiting.

 

This really is the Brian Roberts fiasco all over again

 

The Cubs WILL trade for him. The Cubs will trade for him. The Cubs should trade for him. The Cubs might trade for him. A deal is still in the works. Talks are dead. The Cubs plan on targeting him again next off season.

[The Other 15]

I definitely don't doubt Donnie's story, but in the end I think this is what's going to happen. Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he wants to go to Chicago. However, SD isn't going to come to a package agreement with the Cubs, and they'll get an offer they like from ATL. It'll be getting later in the offseason, so while Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he also doesn't want to be a Padre again, so he'll watch his NTC for the Braves.

 

It's likely that they already got the deal they liked from ATL, but Peavy has narrowed his preferred destinations to LA or Chicago. I don't think this is playing out how Towers envisioned, and Peavy probably has something to do with that. It's left Towers in a tough spot. He can't just hand Peavy over to the Cubs, and he really isn't excited about having to face him 6 times a year if he's traded to LA, so he's trying to create a competitive market. It may or may not work, but these GM's are getting goofy with their expectations for single players no matter how good they might be.

 

As for the Yankee interest, it may be legit, or they may be creating a sense of urgency with Sabathia, Lowe and Burnett that their money train won't be in the station for ever.

Edited November 15, 2008 by The Other 15%

[Jehrico]

I definitely don't doubt Donnie's story, but in the end I think this is what's going to happen. Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he wants to go to Chicago. However, SD isn't going to come to a package agreement with the Cubs, and they'll get an offer they like from ATL. It'll be getting later in the offseason, so while Peavy doesn't want to go to ATL, he also doesn't want to be a Padre again, so he'll watch his NTC for the Braves.

 

If it's true that he doesn't want to go to Atlanta now, why would he want to go there in a couple of weeks? I don't think this is playing out how Towers envisioned it would and now he's left in a bit of a tough spot. He can't just hand Peavy over to the Cubs so he's trying to create a competitive market. It may or may not work, but these GM's are getting goofy with their expectations for single players no matter how good they might be.

 

As for the Yankee interest, it may be legit, or they may be creating a sense of urgency with Sabathia, Lowe and Burnett that their money train won't be in the station for ever.

Bullseye. If I were a betting man, and I had to bet on this one, right now I'd say Peavy stays with the Padres, assuming he holds fast on his declaration that he doesn't want to play in the AL.

[The Other 15]

I'd bet that he ends up with the Cubs or one of the LA teams for a surprisingly low looking offer. He won't keep Peavy just to spite him and they've agreed that it's time for them to split.

[BigbadB]

I'd bet that he ends up with the Cubs or one of the LA teams for a surprisingly low looking offer. He won't keep Peavy just to spite him and they've agreed that it's time for them to split.

 

Yeah, between Towers saying that train has left the station and Moores demanding that payroll be slashed in half, I would expect to see Peavy traded.

 

The ball is in Hendry's court. He better not screw this up.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I really wonder what the Cubs offer is. And I'm hearing some rumblings out of Atlanta that the Braves offer was actually lower than reported and it was simply a two player offer rather than the three or four that had been reported. I guess we'll never know for sure.

 

I really wonder what the Padres expect to get from Peavy considering the limited nature of the market. There's also a glut of starting pitching on the FA market which likely affects what teams will offer for Peavy, at least for now. Once some of that dries up, teams like the Cubs and Braves may be willing to increase their offers. I don't know.

[B]

My proposal:

 

SD gets: SS Ryan Theriot

 

Chi gets: SP Jake Peavy

SS Khalil Greene

 

S.D. would be getting a top tier SS, and dumping salary at the same time. I see no reason they wouldn't do this.

oh man, i want to think you are joking

Exactly what part do you think I would be joking about?

[BigbadB]

I wonder where Vitters fits into this. I wonder if Vitters is the guy Hendry is hesitant to include in a deal for Peavy.

 

Cubs offer? Marshall, Cedeno, Pie and Castillo

 

Padres demands? Marshall or Hill, Fontenot, Pie and Vitters

[mdwilla]

Some of the Padres' leverage derives from the theoretical possibility that they could choose to keep Peavy. Some of Peavy's leverage lies in the belief that the Padres are probably bluffing.

 

None of the principals are pleased that the Padres find themselves in urgent need of a payroll purge, but no one close to the scene disputes that the club's desperation is real.

 

“I think it's severe,” Axelrod said of the Padres' financial plight. “I think you've got the perfect storm – a rough economy in general, a team that underperformed and then the apparent difficulty of the (owner's) personal situation.”

 

“Chicago didn't give us any deadline,” Towers said. “I imagine we'll continue to talk to them, but it's going to definitely take a third team to get something done there.

 

 

Problem: Jake Peavy is already set for several lifetimes, and has professed a strong preference to avoid the Boston-New York holy war.

 

“We gave them a top five,” Axelrod said, referring to the Braves, Cubs, Dodgers, Houston Astros and St. Louis Cardinals. “It's not a definitive list. It's not exclusive, not cast in stone, and it's not approved.

 

“We have not created any list of acceptable teams (or) a list of possibly acceptable teams. Our position is to sit here and wait until a proposed trade is in place, and give input on whether that would be acceptable or not.”

 

Towers says he will not waste his own time or that of potential trading partners without Peavy's consent. Axelrod says Peavy has rejected only one club outright, a club he declined to identify.

 

 

 

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20081115-9999-1s15sullivan.html

[Vanilla Ice]

My proposal:

 

SD gets: SS Ryan Theriot

 

Chi gets: SP Jake Peavy

SS Khalil Greene

 

S.D. would be getting a top tier SS, and dumping salary at the same time. I see no reason they wouldn't do this.

oh man, i want to think you are joking

Exactly what part do you think I would be joking about?

that theriot, by himself, would get peavy

 

much less both of them

[anabiono]

Some of the Padres' leverage derives from the theoretical possibility that they could choose to keep Peavy. Some of Peavy's leverage lies in the belief that the Padres are probably bluffing.

 

None of the principals are pleased that the Padres find themselves in urgent need of a payroll purge, but no one close to the scene disputes that the club's desperation is real.

 

“I think it's severe,” Axelrod said of the Padres' financial plight. “I think you've got the perfect storm – a rough economy in general, a team that underperformed and then the apparent difficulty of the (owner's) personal situation.”

 

“Chicago didn't give us any deadline,” Towers said. “I imagine we'll continue to talk to them, but it's going to definitely take a third team to get something done there.

 

 

Problem: Jake Peavy is already set for several lifetimes, and has professed a strong preference to avoid the Boston-New York holy war.

 

“We gave them a top five,” Axelrod said, referring to the Braves, Cubs, Dodgers, Houston Astros and St. Louis Cardinals. “It's not a definitive list. It's not exclusive, not cast in stone, and it's not approved.

 

“We have not created any list of acceptable teams (or) a list of possibly acceptable teams. Our position is to sit here and wait until a proposed trade is in place, and give input on whether that would be acceptable or not.”

 

Towers says he will not waste his own time or that of potential trading partners without Peavy's consent. Axelrod says Peavy has rejected only one club outright, a club he declined to identify.

 

 

 

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20081115-9999-1s15sullivan.html

 

laughs?

 

:stickman:

Edited November 15, 2008 by anabiono

[Clem Fandango]

“Chicago didn't give us any deadline,” Towers said. “I imagine we'll continue to talk to them, but it's going to definitely take a third team to get something done there.

 

And there it is officially. So who do we trade with? Do we get the Marlins back in and try and work Hermida into our favor at the same time?

[Outshined_One]

“Chicago didn't give us any deadline,” Towers said. “I imagine we'll continue to talk to them, but it's going to definitely take a third team to get something done there.

 

And there it is officially. So who do we trade with? Do we get the Marlins back in and try and work Hermida into our favor at the same time?

 

I hear they want Brian Roberts. Let's get the Orioles back in our offseason fun!!!

[17 Seconds]

My proposal:

 

SD gets: SS Ryan Theriot

 

Chi gets: SP Jake Peavy

SS Khalil Greene

 

S.D. would be getting a top tier SS, and dumping salary at the same time. I see no reason they wouldn't do this.

oh man, i want to think you are joking

Exactly what part do you think I would be joking about?

 

i still think you're joking. you have to be.

[Outshined_One]

My proposal:

 

SD gets: SS Ryan Theriot

 

Chi gets: SP Jake Peavy

SS Khalil Greene

 

S.D. would be getting a top tier SS, and dumping salary at the same time. I see no reason they wouldn't do this.

oh man, i want to think you are joking

Exactly what part do you think I would be joking about?

 

i still think you're joking. you have to be.

 

It would be an even bigger ripoff than Zambrano for Kazmir.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Having to get a third team involved does complicate things.

[CP_414]

I'm no good at the fake trades but how about this...

 

Cubs get Peavy

Padres get Michael Bowden, Marshall, Cedeno

Rangers get Vitters

Rex Sox Get: Max Ramirez, Wuertz

 

Cubs get the ace they want. Padres get a good young pitcher in Bowden, and some other pieces in Marshall/Cedeno. Red Sox get a replacment for Varitek and a bullpen arm I think they would like a lot better than we do. Rangers get a very good prospect for one of their many catchers.

[Guancous]

Peavy would be gourd-shattering but am I the only poo-toucher for being hesitant? I don't want to disdain DonnieD but then again, he's a random dude on the internet. The historical ratio of those dudes being correct hovers around .05%. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not ordering a Peavy jersey. Obviously I hope I'm wrong. Hey, Jake Peavy, if you're reading this, I'll introduce you to a bunch of Kyle Farnsworth's old girlfriends in Lincoln Park. You'll have a fun time every afternoon for years.

 

I posted this from my cell phone before I read DonnieD's lengthy post. Does anyone have any idea what San Diego wants from outside our system?

[ChiCubsFan]

I'm no good at the fake trades but how about this...

 

Cubs get Peavy

Padres get Michael Bowden, Marshall, Cedeno

Rangers get Vitters

Rex Sox Get: Max Ramirez, Wuertz

 

Cubs get the ace they want. Padres get a good young pitcher in Bowden, and some other pieces in Marshall/Cedeno. Red Sox get a replacment for Varitek and a bullpen arm I think they would like a lot better than we do. Rangers get a very good prospect for one of their many catchers.

 

That's actually not too bad of a proposal. However, I think if we're willing to deal Vitters then a 3rd (or in your proposal 4th) team would not be necessary. I would think Vitters, Marshall, Cedeno would get it done. If not, then they are expecting way too much for Peavy when they really have no leverage.

[Clem Fandango]

I'm no good at the fake trades but how about this...

 

Cubs get Peavy

Padres get Michael Bowden, Marshall, Cedeno

Rangers get Vitters

Rex Sox Get: Max Ramirez, Wuertz

 

Cubs get the ace they want. Padres get a good young pitcher in Bowden, and some other pieces in Marshall/Cedeno. Red Sox get a replacment for Varitek and a bullpen arm I think they would like a lot better than we do. Rangers get a very good prospect for one of their many catchers.

 

Involving the Red Sox seems unnecessary. The Padres could use a sharp young catcher as well. All they got is Nick Hundley and/or Michael Barrett.

 

Padres get Ramirez, Marshall, Pie, Cedeno, Beavan

Cubs get Peavy

Rangers get Greene, Veal, and...

 

Screw it I suck at this