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8/28 Phillies (Hamels) @ Cubs (Dempster) - 7:05 WGN TV

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I hate the Philly matchup. The Cubs do not play well against them. They were lucky to get 1 win in Philly this year on the bad DeRosa HR call (which was foul), and they've been sub .500 every year since going 3-3 in 2004 (the year they traded for Nomar minutes after losing to Philly at home). And in 2003 they were 1-5 against them.

 

Philly just gives the Cubs fits. Abreu and Burrell have killed them, now that Abreu is gone Utley has killed them as well.

 

As much as I've grown to expect them to win every home series, if not every game, I can't help but think I'd feel relieved to just get a split out of this matchup.

 

The rains are on their way, hopefully it will clear out by tonight.

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I hate the Philly matchup. The Cubs do not play well against them. They were lucky to get 1 win in Philly this year on the bad DeRosa HR call (which was foul), and they've been sub .500 every year since going 3-3 in 2004 (the year they traded for Nomar minutes after losing to Philly at home). And in 2003 they were 1-5 against them.

 

Philly just gives the Cubs fits. Abreu and Burrell have killed them, now that Abreu is gone Utley has killed them as well.

 

As much as I've grown to expect them to win every home series, if not every game, I can't help but think I'd feel relieved to just get a split out of this matchup.

 

The rains are on their way, hopefully it will clear out by tonight.

If the Cubs can keep them in the ballpark, they'll win the series.

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^^ This post sums up my thoughts as well. Philly is weird. The only players that really scare me are Howard, Utley, Burrell, Hamels, Lidge and maybe Myers and yet they all kill us. The lineup doesn't look too scary outside of the big guys. Whenever Philly plays a team I want to lose, and I see like Feliz, Ruiz and Coste due up, I wonder how the hell are they over .500.

 

It sounds like I'm disrespecting Philly, and I guess I kinda am, but I understand why they are good. Their mashers kill the ball, their role players like Coste, Werth, and Victorino come up big. Their starters outside Hamels, while by no means are dominant, hold the fort down long enough for the bashers to do their job. And their bullpen started the season stellar, but seems to have tailed off just a tiny bit.

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I always think of the Phillies as an offensive team that just outslugs the competition.

 

This year, though, the Cubs have scored 80+ more runs and the Phillies pitching has actually been pretty good, allowing the 3rd fewest runs in the NL (and only 17 more than the Cubs).

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I hate playing against the Phillies. They always find a way to own us :(

 

 

Please win, Cubs.

 

Didn't the Cubs carry a no-hitter into the 9th a few years ago against the Phillies, then lose the no-no and then the game?

 

I'm getting old. Who was that pitching for us? Or am I imagining this whole thing? I just seem to recall it was someone who had no business being a few outs away from a no-hitter.

 

EDIT: I'm both old and stupid. It wasn't a Cub at all, but I was right about it being a crappy pitcher. Eric Milton. Here's the gamer, with a reference to everyone's favorite ex-Cubs bullpenner:

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/cs-040725cubsgamer,0,5586477.story

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I hate playing against the Phillies. They always find a way to own us :(

 

 

Please win, Cubs.

 

Didn't the Cubs carry a no-hitter into the 9th a few years ago against the Phillies, then lose the no-no and then the game?

 

I'm getting old. Who was that pitching for us? Or am I imagining this whole thing? I just seem to recall it was someone who had no business being a few outs away from a no-hitter.

 

EDIT: I'm both old and stupid. It wasn't a Cub at all, but I was right about it being a crappy pitcher. Eric Milton. Here's the gamer, with a reference to everyone's favorite ex-Cubs bullpenner:

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/cs-040725cubsgamer,0,5586477.story

 

That game sucked, was awesome for 20 seconds and then was crushing.

 

Milton went into the 9th with a perfect game I think. But Barrett led off with a bloop single, and somehow with 2 outs in the 9th, KPop hit a double to the deepest part of the park and about 3 feet from a HR to tie the game. It was so improbable, I was so excited.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The LaSuck blew it in the bottom of the 9th and we lost.

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Lee, Soriano and Ramirez need to figure out how to lay off that change up low and outside. If they flail away at that pitch, it'll be a long night
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I was watching that game in some bar at Midway waiting for my flight on my first trip to Vegas.

 

Where you staying? I'm jealous.

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The Phillies are the only team in the NL the Cubs are under .500 against this year. Fix that, Cubs.

 

Of course, the only team in the NL the Cubs can't finish over .500 against is the Nationals. And yes, I know that is sad.

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Scouts Inc has done some analysis to see why Cole Hamels is so effective against the Cubs historically:

 

Hamels has thrown changeups on 42 percent of pitches to these Cubs, all of whom have hit better than average against lefty changes this season. They are a combined 1-for-17 against Hamels' changeup, however, and have chased 48 percent of them out of the zone.

 

This season, right-handed batters have hit .188 off Hamels' change, compared to the .256 league average against lefties.

 

Hamels takes more off his changeup and gives it more downward movement than typical. Keeping the ball down is crucial; when Hamels leaves it up in the zone, his .524 SLG against is close to league average. His changeup is more than an out pitch, and Hamels establishes it early in the count to disrupt the hitter's rhythm. He has thrown 181 first-pitch changeups so far in 2008, more than any other pitcher.

 

Most of all, Hamels has confidence to throw his changeup when behind the hitter in obvious fastball counts. Right-handed batters have swung on 58 percent of Hamels' changeups in hitters' counts and missed half the time. The Phillies' ace will attempt to keep the heart of the Cubs' order off balance yet again on Wednesday.

 

More at the link (ESPN insider only):

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=3557053

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I was watching that game in some bar at Midway waiting for my flight on my first trip to Vegas.

 

Where you staying? I'm jealous.

 

I think he meant in 2004 during the Milton almost no-hitter game. Not tonight.

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I was watching that game in some bar at Midway waiting for my flight on my first trip to Vegas.

 

Where you staying? I'm jealous.

 

I think he meant in 2004 during the Milton almost no-hitter game. Not tonight.

 

My bad, I didn't catch the "was" :oops:

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I was watching that game in some bar at Midway waiting for my flight on my first trip to Vegas.

 

Where you staying? I'm jealous.

 

 

I meant that game in 04 w/the Phils. And it was with my parents. It was lame (because I was mostly gambling by myself), but we stayed at Bellagio. I ran into Coach K in the elevator. I was wondering who the hell he was and why he looked familiar. Realized it just as we got to the lobby and he was walking away.

 

Obviously, the trips I've taken since with my buddies have been 100x more fun, though. I need to go sometime soon. It's usually ~10hrs a day at the poker tables and then lots of drinking. Maybe a few pit games sprinkled in.

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