8/3 Bucs(Snell) @ Cubs(Z!) - 1:20 WGN TV

[BCVM22]

Dammit Sori--

 

oh wait, that went FOR us.

[kujay]

3-0 Braves still, now in bottom of 7th.

 

Also, glad I'm not a MLB'er so I can go spelunking whenever I want.

 

If you're not watching WGN feed, LenBob is having an odd conversation about prohibited activity clauses in player contracts.

[inari]

GEODOUBLE!

[BCVM22]

Back-to-back opposite field RBI doubles for Soto. Yessah.

[kujay]

Um, Geovany Soto?

[Guest]

Geo to the opposite field again. I love it.

[Soul]

Thank God for bad outfielders and Geo starting to take the ball the other way more.

[BCVM22]

Z!

[inari]

Gotta love Z!

[Soul]

Z eye wub u mon!!!

[kujay]

Big Z loves to hit!

[BCVM22]

Big Z loves to hit!

 

Taking his frustrations out on the ball

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

of course santo belongs in the hall, his numbers are far better than brooks robinson's yet brooks is a first-ballot guy. his glove was in the ballpark as well.

 

from every account i've read, brooks robinson is the best defensive 3B of all time. santo was very good but not great.

 

still, it's pointless in arguing between the two of them because they both clearly belong in the hall of fame.

 

i never said that santo was as good, just in the ballpark. and ronnie's offensive superiority exceeds robinson's defensive superiority. robinson played on winning teams and had longevity on his side, but santo was just a much better hitter and usually that's what gets people into the hall.

 

I've made this post before, but here goes about Santo in the HOF.

 

Right now the HOF lists 13 players that have been inducted primarily as 3B. Three of those were inducted from the Negro Leagues.

 

If Santo were added to the other ten, there would be eleven third basemen in the HOF. So, how would he rank among these other greats? In other words, I wanted to answer the question if Santo would lower the quality of player in the HOF.

 

Here's what I came up with.

 

Santo's 342 homeruns would rank him third among HOF thirdbasemen behind only 500 HR club members Mike Schmidt and Eddie Matthews.

 

Santo's 1331 RBI would rank him fourth among the current HOF third sackers.

 

His .277 BA might be one of the knocks on him as six of the ten HOF third basemen have hit over 300. However, there still would be four HOF thirdbasemen with lower batting averages.

 

Santo has five Gold Gloves. Only two HOF thirdbasemen (Schmidt and Robinson) have more, and six have none.

 

Santo's 954 Fielding % ranks him at sixth would be middle of the pack.

 

Santo scored 1138 runs which places him in the middle of the pack at fifth.

 

His 362 OBP would rank him sixth and his 464 SLG would rank him fourth.

 

Finally, his OPS+ of 125 would rank him fifth and his 324 Win Shares would be fifth on the list as well.

 

There's not a single category that would rank him in the lower third. Most metrics place him squarely in the middle of the pack among HOF thirdbasemen.

 

The case is clear that Santo belongs and there really shouldn't be any argument.

[Flames24Rulz]

It's raining doubles.

[Andy]

For those of you not in the AIM chat, Miguel Olivo got plunked in the Royals/Sox game, charged the mound and incited a bench-clearer. Got a piece of AJ Pierzynski in the process.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

We need a hit to bring Zambrano in and then I can start to feel confident about this game.

[imb]

oh man were gonna lose a series to the fn pirates

[Jon]

Zambrano has a 90.0 mph average fastball today and has topped out at 92.8 mph...

[TruffleShuffle]

Geo to the opposite field again. I love it.

 

yup he is making the adjustment now... just took a little time. pitchers are gonna realize that he's not going to keep trying to pull breaking balls on the outer half of the plate, and they'll have to throw him more fastballs. he's a good hitter, but still learning.

[kujay]

For those of you not in the AIM chat, Miguel Olivo got plunked in the Royals/Sox game, charged the mound and incited a bench-clearer. Got a piece of AJ Pierzynski in the process.

 

Always a good decision.

[BCVM22]

Riotdouble plz.

[Soul]

The case is clear that Santo belongs and there really shouldn't be any argument.

 

Does anyone really make an argument about Santo's worthiness, or do they just vote against him because of the 40 year old grudge?

 

I think it's the latter, because I never hear a convincing argument that shows Santo shouldn't be in.

[Magnetic Curses]

3-0 Braves still, now in bottom of 7th.

 

Also, glad I'm not a MLB'er so I can go spelunking whenever I want.

 

If you're not watching WGN feed, LenBob is having an odd conversation about prohibited activity clauses in player contracts.

 

they don't want their players contracting rabies.

[CuseCubFan69]

If Soto continues to hit the ball where it's pitched, he's going to be a heck of a hitter.

[kujay]

3-0 Braves still, now in bottom of 7th.

 

Also, glad I'm not a MLB'er so I can go spelunking whenever I want.

 

If you're not watching WGN feed, LenBob is having an odd conversation about prohibited activity clauses in player contracts.

 

they don't want their players contracting rabies.

 

Can you imagine Aaron Harang with rabies?

 

:-k