The Chicago Bears Preseason Thread

[RynoRules]

Do it Jerry - send them a 2nd Rnd pick and get a real QB.

 

Then you can cut Sexy Rexy and we can all move on.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

I think the most likely scenario is Minnesotta...the Bears were probably tossed in as speculation...sadly of course. I'd love Favre on this team, but as we have seen, Angelo is clueless on assembling an offense.

[Derwood]

I think the most likely scenario is Minnesotta...the Bears were probably tossed in as speculation...sadly of course. I'd love Favre on this team, but as we have seen, Angelo is clueless on assembling an offense.

 

ESPN would poop their pants in excitement if he went to the Vikings (re: MNF Week 1 - Vikings @ Packers)

[Guest]

http://www.frontiernet.net/~packers12/Brett.jpg

[minnesotacubsfan]

http://www.frontiernet.net/~packers12/Brett.jpg

 

 

I hate the Packers, but I have to say I REALLY thin Goodell is out of line here. The Packers have every right to control Brett's future. Its too bad the Commish has to cave to sentiment and act the bully

[Vanilla Ice]

I hate the Packers, but I have to say I REALLY thin Goodell is out of line here. The Packers have every right to control Brett's future. Its too bad the Commish has to cave to sentiment and act the bully

 

Hes not caving to anything. He is just going to reinstate Favre and giving control over his future to the Packers. He could have reinstated him today or tomorrow but he is giving the Packers an extra day

[minnesotacubsfan]

I hate the Packers, but I have to say I REALLY thin Goodell is out of line here. The Packers have every right to control Brett's future. Its too bad the Commish has to cave to sentiment and act the bully

 

Hes not caving to anything. He is just going to reinstate Favre and giving control over his future to the Packers. He could have reinstated him today or tomorrow but he is giving the Packers an extra day

 

 

reports were that he was forcing Thompson to accept Favre's reinstatement, and come to terms with Favre. I dont think the Packers wanted any of this...

[ELCABALLO45]

The Packers are so out of line here.

 

If you don't want Brett Favre to play fine, release him. Don't humiliate yourself anymore Thompson. Favre has earned the right to play if he wants to, Don't act like a baby and offer him 20 million dollars to stay retired, man up. The Commish is being really nice about this by giving Thompson more time to do something with it.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Packers are so out of line here.

 

If you don't want Brett Favre to play fine, release him. Don't humiliate yourself anymore Thompson. Favre has earned the right to play if he wants to, Don't act like a baby and offer him 20 million dollars to stay retired, man up. The Commish is being really nice about this by giving Thompson more time to do something with it.

 

Then again, if Favre accepts that $20m to stay retired, you can look back and say maybe Thompson was right, and Favre really wasn't committed to coming back.

[USSoccer]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

[jersey cubs fan]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

 

The only thing I can blame them for is apparently not being open to letting him start in GB. But you are dead on in that they have absolutely no reason to let him dictate where he goes. He signed a contract, and retired. His fate is up to the team.

[USSoccer]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

 

The only thing I can blame them for is apparently not being open to letting him start in GB. But you are dead on in that they have absolutely no reason to let him dictate where he goes. He signed a contract, and retired. His fate is up to the team.

 

I don't see how they owe him any opportunity for anything. They paid him for services rendered, and hold his rights. He's an asset. They control the asset.

 

Athletes like to talk out of both sides of their mouths when it's convienent for them. They have no problem talking about "the business" of sports when it suits them, but the second an organization acts in kind, they piss and moan like they're some sort of prisoner and victim.

 

It goes both ways, and I hope GB sticks it out.

[Banedon]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

 

The NFL can't force GB to do anything, but they can certainly exert pressure on them to do something, and I think that's all that's going on here. Favre is a big NFL name...one of the biggest of all time...the NFL wants this resolved so the focus can be on the season and not this drama. I don't blame them there.

 

If GB wants to be stubborn, they can be. But I think they'll do something here in the next week or so.

[USSoccer]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

 

The NFL can't force GB to do anything, but they can certainly exert pressure on them to do something, and I think that's all that's going on here. Favre is a big NFL name...one of the biggest of all time...the NFL wants this resolved so the focus can be on the season and not this drama. I don't blame them there.

 

If GB wants to be stubborn, they can be. But I think they'll do something here in the next week or so.

 

The NFL has no business exerting anything on Green Bay.

 

Again, Farve is an asset. That's all he is. He's being treated as an asset in the most impartial, logical way, and the league shouldn't be in the business of dictating to a team how to handle a player personell issue

[jersey cubs fan]

The NFL has no business exerting anything on Green Bay.

 

Again, Farve is an asset. That's all he is. He's being treated as an asset in the most impartial, logical way, and the league shouldn't be in the business of dictating to a team how to handle a player personell issue

 

They aren't dictating, they are talking, as well they should. Part of their duty is to steer the big ship, and like it or not, the future of Favre/Packers influences the big ship. They aren't telling them what they have to do, but they are involved with the process, and have a right to voice their opinions. They've hardly been overbearing. This isn't David Stern.

[USSoccer]

The NFL has no business exerting anything on Green Bay.

 

Again, Farve is an asset. That's all he is. He's being treated as an asset in the most impartial, logical way, and the league shouldn't be in the business of dictating to a team how to handle a player personell issue

 

They aren't dictating, they are talking, as well they should. Part of their duty is to steer the big ship, and like it or not, the future of Favre/Packers influences the big ship. They aren't telling them what they have to do, but they are involved with the process, and have a right to voice their opinions. They've hardly been overbearing. This isn't David Stern.

 

And what happens when they set the precedent of "gently nudging" a team to do something with a player? Isn't that detrimental to the long term health of the league?

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Stear him to chicago. There is a home for you here Brett.

[jersey cubs fan]

The NFL has no business exerting anything on Green Bay.

 

Again, Farve is an asset. That's all he is. He's being treated as an asset in the most impartial, logical way, and the league shouldn't be in the business of dictating to a team how to handle a player personell issue

 

They aren't dictating, they are talking, as well they should. Part of their duty is to steer the big ship, and like it or not, the future of Favre/Packers influences the big ship. They aren't telling them what they have to do, but they are involved with the process, and have a right to voice their opinions. They've hardly been overbearing. This isn't David Stern.

 

And what happens when they set the precedent of "gently nudging" a team to do something with a player? Isn't that detrimental to the long term health of the league?

 

I highly doubt this is precedent setting. They have to do something with Favre's paper work. They've given GB time by waiting as long as possible to actually reinstate him.

 

And by the way, this is nothing like MLS.

[Derwood]

I wish someone would pay me $20 million to not work

[kujay]

So, tried to get tickets this morning to see the Bears play here in St. Louis in November.

 

But, the Rams are doing that super pathetic and embarassing thing where if you want Bears tickets, you have to buy tickets to another game as well.

 

I guess that's what happens when you have a crappy team playing in a crappy stadium and several games are blacked out because you can't sell out.

 

Rant *off*

[CubColtPacer]

Green Bay has every right to do whatever the hell they want with a player they control.

 

If the NFL caves to this, they're no better than MLS, which makes up the rules as it goes along when it comes to player movement. And MLS's system for that is a complete joke.

 

If GB doesn't want him back and doesn't want him playing against them, they have the right to block him. They owe him nothing. They paid him for his performance.

 

That's the thing. Green Bay cannot block him. They can either keep him, or let him go to another team. That's their only 2 choices. Right now, Favre has the ultimate bargaining chip. He can just say he'll come in to camp. And Green Bay can't afford for him to do that. So they'll either have to release him or trade him to the team Favre wants (because no other team will trade for him). The alternative to the club is that Favre reports in a few days, and that will be disasterous for the Packers.

 

The league is actually doing the best thing here for the Packers. Instead of reinstating Favre immediately and creating an absolute circus around the GB camp until the situation is resolved, they're delaying it and trying to get a resolution.

 

Legally, the Packers have all the leverage. But because of the PR concerns, they have none of it. The absolute worst they can do to Favre is make him come in and stand on the sidelines all year. But that would be horrible for their franchise, so there really is nothing they can do to Favre.

[anemic offense]

Do it Jerry - send them a 2nd Rnd pick and get a real QB.

 

Then you can cut Sexy Rexy and we can all move on.

 

Not that our QB situation is ideal, but adding Favre wouldn't make much difference aside from the salary cap ramifications.

 

Until Angelo makes the Oline more of a priority (outside overpriced washed up vets), I'm resigned to the fact the offense is going to suck. Everybody wants to slag on our qbs (sometimes rightfuflly so) but you couldn't even evaluate their play because our Oline was worthless. They couldn't create a pocket or create running lanes for the backs. Compounding the problem was the idiocy of Turner when he constantly had 5 WR schemes incorporating 5 step drops. When your line can't block 4 guys let alone 6-7 (teams would see this and bring the house every time) just WTF is the qb supposed to do? Ron set our offense up to fail so many times (the numerous toss sweeps anyone?) that I often thought he was working for the other team. With the lack of upgrades on the line, the loss of Berrian, and the return of Turner this offense figures to be a train wreck yet again. That's with or without Favre.

[NCCubFan]

That's the thing. Green Bay cannot block him. They can either keep him, or let him go to another team.

True, but they don't have to start him. They've already said he's welcome to return as Rodgers' backup. That pretty much puts the ball in Favre's court.

[CubColtPacer]

That's the thing. Green Bay cannot block him. They can either keep him, or let him go to another team.

True, but they don't have to start him. They've already said he's welcome to return as Rodgers' backup. That pretty much puts the ball in Favre's court.

 

Green Bay can threaten that, but there's no way they can actually do that. Favre is willing to call that bluff (by reporting to camp) and there's no reason why he should believe them. That's the quickest way to fracture a fanbase, not to mention possibly kill their season from the weight of the Favre situation and him standing on the sidelines. It's pretty obvious Green Bay is extremely scared of just that scenario. That's why they are begging him to not report yet and have offered him the 20 million to stay home.

 

Green Bay's best option at this point is to trade Favre to one of the teams he wants to go to (if he doesn't accept the 20 million). It's not ideal, but it's the only end to this that doesn't hurt the Packers for years to come.

 

BTW, I think Favre's being unreasonable by refusing to talk to certain teams that the Packers want to trade him to. But he knows that he's got the Packers into a no-win situation, and he knows he can exploit that into getting what he wants.

[RedFlash]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=225285&src=148

 

For those DYING TO KNOW Danieal and Ricky Manning as related......I cannot tell you how many nights I lay awake wonder if they two were related, it's good to know........And it is apparently, unlike TMac and Vince Carter, they are legit blood family.

 

 

God what a slow news day for Bears football.