Cardinals possibly pursuing Jason Bay

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SI.com reports that the Diamondbacks and Cardinals "are among the most ardent pursuers" of Jason Bay.

 

Jon Heyman adds that the Mets and Rays have also expressed interest in Bay. Of course, within the same article he writes that the Pirates "are believed to be seeking" Emilio Bonifacio, who he refers to as the Diamondbacks' "top prospect." In reality he has a .698 career OPS in the minors and projects as a utility man long term, so it's tough to place too much stock in Heyman's report. "There's been a great amount of interest in a couple of our right-handed hitters,'' general manager Neal Huntington said. "If we get the right match, we'll make a move." The other "right-handed hitter" Huntington is talking about is Xavier Nady, who is also said to be available.

Source: SI.com

[Schwarber Fan]

#-o

 

This would suck

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I don't buy it. If Huntington is really setting his sights on Emilio Bonifacio, then he may be worse than Littlefield. If that's even possible.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If I'm the Pirates, and the Cardinals ask about Bay, the price is Rasmus.

[Jake]

I don't buy it. If Huntington is really setting his sights on Emilio Bonifacio, then he may be worse than Littlefield. If that's even possible.

Why do you say this?

[RedFlash]

I don't buy it. If Huntington is really setting his sights on Emilio Bonifacio, then he may be worse than Littlefield. If that's even possible.

Why do you say this?

 

It could be because, Bonifacio is projected as a utility player at best. And to target him in a deal for Bay, would/should/could remind Pirates fans of Littlefield's "ARam to the Cubs for Hill and change." So, if Huntington is really about being competitive, you have ask for Rasmus straight up in any deal.

[Jake]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Bonifacio, whom Heyman is referring to as the Diamondbacks Top Prospect, is best projected as a utility player?

 

Huntington is not looking for utility players. We have enough of those.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Bonafacio made the AA all-star team last year. Trusting Heyman for good analysis is the problem. He's probably just guessing there.

[Jake]

Keep in mind, the Pirates don't want to trade Bay. Having said that, no one is untouchable on this team.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Keep in mind, the Pirates don't want to trade Bay. Having said that, no one is untouchable on this team.

 

Maybe you can hold out for Rasmus, Dave Duncan, and a year's supply of their pixie dust.

[RedFlash]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Bonifacio, whom Heyman is referring to as the Diamondbacks Top Prospect, is best projected as a utility player?

 

Huntington is not looking for utility players. We have enough of those.

 

In reality he has a .698 career OPS in the minors and projects as a utility man long term, so it's tough to place too much stock in Heyman's report.

 

Does this strike you as the knid of player you want for a very good Jason Bay??

 

And Vance, you and I both know, we've seen mediocre players make minor league All-Star games. And this kid that Heyman is reporting that is a "target" has a career .698 OPS. Not exactly a stud in the making, if you ask me.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Bonifacio, whom Heyman is referring to as the Diamondbacks Top Prospect, is best projected as a utility player?

 

Huntington is not looking for utility players. We have enough of those.

 

In reality he has a .698 career OPS in the minors and projects as a utility man long term, so it's tough to place too much stock in Heyman's report.

 

Does this strike you as the knid of player you want for a very good Jason Bay??

 

And Vance, you and I both know, we've seen mediocre players make minor league All-Star games. And this kid that Heyman is reporting that is a "target" has a career .698 OPS. Not exactly a stud in the making, if you ask me.

 

And I bet Heyman is wrong about him being the target. He might be someone who would be thrown into the deal, and maybe that's where Heyman got the name, but I'd bet that if there's a Bay deal to Arizona, Bonafacio will not be the centerpiece.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I don't buy it. If Huntington is really setting his sights on Emilio Bonifacio, then he may be worse than Littlefield. If that's even possible.

Why do you say this?

 

Like I said, I don't buy it. Bonifacio is just not good. He doesn't even really have a position.

 

Previous posts pretty much said what I would have. But, anyways here is what D'backs fans think about him. It's from Diamondbacks Bullpen which has some knowlegeable posters.

 

http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?t=3829&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Little Slide Rooter]

We must prevent to Cards from aquiring Bay at all costs. If someone has to go back in time and prevent his birth, or at least get him interested in theatre instead of baseball, then so be it.

[rawaction]

Keep in mind, the Pirates don't want to trade Bay. Having said that, no one is untouchable on this team.

 

Nate McLouth? Pirates should build around McLouth, Bay, Doumit, and McCutheon. Trade Nady, Wilson, Marte, and Snell. Get a serviceable 3B and about 3-4 solid arms, a couple of them fireball throwing RHs and compete in 2010.

[TruffleShuffle]

the d-bags already dealt a lot of their good prospects. if bay is the commodity, then i'm asking for jarrod parker. scherzer's shoulder is a concern. bonifacio has never hit much outside of lancaster, which is a bandbox in a hitter's league, so yeah - he would be a terrible centerpiece for a trade.

[RedFlash]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Bonifacio, whom Heyman is referring to as the Diamondbacks Top Prospect, is best projected as a utility player?

 

Huntington is not looking for utility players. We have enough of those.

 

In reality he has a .698 career OPS in the minors and projects as a utility man long term, so it's tough to place too much stock in Heyman's report.

 

Does this strike you as the knid of player you want for a very good Jason Bay??

 

And Vance, you and I both know, we've seen mediocre players make minor league All-Star games. And this kid that Heyman is reporting that is a "target" has a career .698 OPS. Not exactly a stud in the making, if you ask me.

 

And I bet Heyman is wrong about him being the target. He might be someone who would be thrown into the deal, and maybe that's where Heyman got the name, but I'd bet that if there's a Bay deal to Arizona, Bonafacio will not be the centerpiece.

 

Agreed. A Dback deal would have to centre around Jarrod Parker, or perhaps, maybe Chad Tracy. I know Tracy isn't a star, but he is a good enough player to be of use to the Pirates who could in turn trade LaRoche to a team for some prospects.

[Jake]

Keep in mind, the Pirates don't want to trade Bay. Having said that, no one is untouchable on this team.

 

Nate McLouth? Pirates should build around McLouth, Bay, Doumit, and McCutheon. Trade Nady, Wilson, Marte, and Snell. Get a serviceable 3B and about 3-4 solid arms, a couple of them fireball throwing RHs and compete in 2010.

 

Ideally, yes, we don't trade McClouth. Doumit is about as untouchable as one gets on our team, followed closely by McLouth. If the offer is right for McLouth, (emphasis on right) he'll be traded. McCutheon can play center, and we can go with Bay, Mac, Pearse as our outfield next year.

 

Doumit is different in that we have no depth at catcher (does anyone really?)

 

Nady is the most likely to be moved. But, again, the offer has to be good enough.

 

Wilson probably isn't going anywhere because, as we've learned when he was on the DL, we'd need another decent shortstop back. And, he's relatively cheap.

 

Snell's value is [expletive] right now, so he won't be traded.

 

As I've posted elsewhere, as of right now, the offers for Marte are not better than the draft picks we'd get for him leaving as a free agent. If the offers get better, be sure he will be traded.

 

I wasn't familiar with Bonifacio. Based on what I'm reading here, I'd say he's not the target. Our real need is starting pitching. It's been the difference in most of our losses this year. And, we've won quite a few games in spite of it.

[BigbadB]

Agreed. A Dback deal would have to centre around Jarrod Parker, or perhaps, maybe Chad Tracy. I know Tracy isn't a star, but he is a good enough player to be of use to the Pirates who could in turn trade LaRoche to a team for some prospects.

 

Tracy's still a 3b, but it was easier for them to shift Connor Jackson to the outfield and leave Reynolds at 3b and move Tracy to 1st.

 

What exactly did the D'Backs get in return for Carlos Quentin? Whatever it was, I don't think it was worth it.

[BigbadB]

Keep in mind, the Pirates don't want to trade Bay. Having said that, no one is untouchable on this team.

 

Nate McLouth? Pirates should build around McLouth, Bay, Doumit, and McCutheon. Trade Nady, Wilson, Marte, and Snell. Get a serviceable 3B and about 3-4 solid arms, a couple of them fireball throwing RHs and compete in 2010.

 

Ideally, yes, we don't trade McClouth. Doumit is about as untouchable as one gets on our team, followed closely by McLouth. If the offer is right for McLouth, (emphasis on right) he'll be traded. McCutheon can play center, and we can go with Bay, Mac, Pearse as our outfield next year.

 

Doumit is different in that we have no depth at catcher (does anyone really?)

 

Nady is the most likely to be moved. But, again, the offer has to be good enough.

 

Wilson probably isn't going anywhere because, as we've learned when he was on the DL, we'd need another decent shortstop back. And, he's relatively cheap.

 

Snell's value is **** right now, so he won't be traded.

 

As I've posted elsewhere, as of right now, the offers for Marte are not better than the draft picks we'd get for him leaving as a free agent. If the offers get better, be sure he will be traded.

 

I wasn't familiar with Bonifacio. Based on what I'm reading here, I'd say he's not the target. Our real need is starting pitching. It's been the difference in most of our losses this year. And, we've won quite a few games in spite of it.

 

Pittsburgh needs more lefty starters. :)

[Keener98]

Am I the only one who could really care less if the Cardinals trade for Bay? Their bullpen still isnt very good, and their starting pitching is still very very unlikely to continue doing what theyve done this far. Welly has already came back down to earth, their number 5 spot in the rotation is a revolving door, Looper isnt very good, and Pinerio isnt either. The Cards are basing ALL their hope on getting Carp and Wainwright back. Kinda like how us Cubs fans have based all our hope on Wood and Prior in years past. I know Wood and Prior have much longer injury history than Wainwright, but the idea that Cards fans keep hoping for Carp to hurry up is a joke. Carp is coming off TJ surgery, hes not going to just slide back into the rotation this year and be Cy Young caliber. Odds are better that he will have a few shining moments, but he will also have alot of disaster starts while trying to regain velocity, and command which is usually the last thing you get back after TJ surgery.

[BigbadB]

but he will also have alot of disaster starts while trying to regain velocity, and command which is usually the last thing you get back after TJ surgery.

 

Let us also not forget to include the word stamina along with velocity and command.

[anabiono]

i had heard that the rays were trying for bay...if he goes to cards...who cares...the diamondbacks?...meh

 

just not the rays...let the rays have the redhead

[rocket]

i had heard that the rays were trying for bay...if he goes to cards...who cares...the diamondbacks?...meh

 

just not the rays...let the rays have the redhead

 

i think you're mixed up.

 

jason bay to the rays = hooray

 

jason bay to the cards = bad

[anabiono]

i had heard that the rays were trying for bay...if he goes to cards...who cares...the diamondbacks?...meh

 

just not the rays...let the rays have the redhead

 

i think you're mixed up.

 

jason bay to the rays = hooray

 

jason bay to the cards = bad

 

no, i am not mixed up...the team that has always scared me in the division is the brewers

 

bay to the cards...big deal