Hank Steinbrenner to NL: DROP DEAD

[erik316wttn]

I also hate the fact that when a slugger gets old and fat and can't play defense anymore, analysts are like "he can still go DH somewhere."

 

If your old and fat, get out of the game. I don't care if you can still hit .275, hit 25 HRs, and drive in 90. If you can't get yourself in shape to jog out to a position inbetween innings, stand there and make a play every other inning, go hang up your cleats.

 

To paraphrase Ryne Sandberg's HOF speech: When did it become ok to just hit and forget how to play the rest of the game?

[Guest]

btw - pitchers would probably be better hitters if they hit all the way through the minors. As it is, the only leagues that have the pitchers hit are AA and AAA -- and even then only in the parks of NL franchises.

 

Do away with the dh at all levels!

[OleMissCub]

btw - pitchers would probably be better hitters if they hit all the way through the minors. As it is, the only leagues that have the pitchers hit are AA and AAA -- and even then only in the parks of NL franchises.

 

Don't forget that most of them use DH's for three or four years in college as well!

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

His father was just like this until about 10 years ago. Then, he had a stroke (supposedly) and hasn't been the same since. Also, the team was winning world series.

 

IIRC, and this is strictly my memory (possibly revisionist history) but it seemed to me that George Steinbrenner toned done his act after he came back from his banning in the early 90's. At this point he was past the hiring firing and rehiring antics (i.e. Billy Martin), less and emphasis on the word less sound bites for the media to run with & verbal altercations like the ones with Jackson and Winfield.

[RedIvyCub]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

Hank Steinbrenner is WHY MLB doesn't want a clown like Cuban running a team. They already have to deal with Hank Steinbrenner and Jeffrrey Loria as it is.

[Jehrico]

Never thought I'd see the day when someone would be more whiney than George Steinbrenner.

You've convinced me. From here on out, I'm never referring to anyone from that family as anything other than Winebrenner.

[Jehrico]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

Hank Steinbrenner is WHY MLB doesn't want a clown like Cuban running a team. They already have to deal with Hank Steinbrenner and Jeffrrey Loria as it is.

Not really. They had their shot at getting Loria out of the league. Instead, they handed him another team.

[RedIvyCub]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

Hank Steinbrenner is WHY MLB doesn't want a clown like Cuban running a team. They already have to deal with Hank Steinbrenner and Jeffrrey Loria as it is.

Not really. They had their shot at getting Loria out of the league. Instead, they handed him another team.

 

Contraction was taken off the table so no there wasn't an option but to let him keep the Expos in a move to DC OR to let him take over the Marlins where they felt he would do little damage and let Henry join the Red Sox group. I don't think they thought he would win a WS in a million years after what he did to the Expo franchise. I also think they figured contraction could come up again and the Marlins and their poor attendance, etc would be a likely candidate.

[Jehrico]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

Hank Steinbrenner is WHY MLB doesn't want a clown like Cuban running a team. They already have to deal with Hank Steinbrenner and Jeffrrey Loria as it is.

Not really. They had their shot at getting Loria out of the league. Instead, they handed him another team.

 

Contraction was taken off the table so no there wasn't an option but to let him keep the Expos in a move to DC OR to let him take over the Marlins where they felt he would do little damage and let Henry join the Red Sox group. I don't think they thought he would win a WS in a million years after what he did to the Expo franchise. I also think they figured contraction could come up again and the Marlins and their poor attendance, etc would be a likely candidate.

I think they could have bought him out in Montreal without giving him the Marlins if they really wanted to. Only Selig and Loria know for sure though.

[Soul]

Hank is even more whiny than his demon-spawn dad. I admit, I didn't think it was possible.

 

Do away with the DH.

[BigbadB]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

[Sammy Sofa]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

 

Agreed. It'll never happen due to the money it draws, but I prefer it when the two leagues only meet up in the ASG and the WS.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

 

 

Interleague play has lost some of its luster. Surely, the Cubs-White Sox, Yankees-Mets, and Angels-Dodgers still generate a lot of interest. I suppose the same might be said of Rangers-Astros, Giants-A's, and Marlins-Rays to some extent. But the other match-ups aren't that compelling. I guess it's nice for fans in some cities to get to see teams they normally miss, but I wouldn't shed a tear if interleague play was done away with.

[shnsajax]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

 

 

Interleague play has lost some of its luster. Surely, the Cubs-White Sox, Yankees-Mets, and Angels-Dodgers still generate a lot of interest. I suppose the same might be said of Rangers-Astros, Giants-A's, and Marlins-Rays to some extent. But the other match-ups aren't that compelling. I guess it's nice for fans in some cities to get to see teams they normally miss, but I wouldn't shed a tear if interleague play was done away with.

 

I certainly don't like the fact that we get the White Sox for 6 games every year where the Cards get the Royals. I really don't even care about the rival matchups any more.

[Mute]

btw - pitchers would probably be better hitters if they hit all the way through the minors. As it is, the only leagues that have the pitchers hit are AA and AAA -- and even then only in the parks of NL franchises.

 

Do away with the dh at all levels!

 

There are a lot of good hitters out there who can't hit major league pitching. The idea that pitchers should be able to do it as a secondary skill is just silly.

 

NFL teams used to play ironman, maybe we should go back to that? Great if you can tackle; if you can't block or catch passes too, you're not an athlete, though.

[SweetZombieJesus]

I got nothing really to say

 

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[CubbieBum]

I got nothing really to say

 

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hahaha

[SouthSideRyan]

I am basically of the opinion that there should be no DH. At the same time, if it's impossible to take away the DH (which it is) then we need to have the same rule for both leagues. I would hate it for awhile, but if the NL did have the DH it would at least keep everything equal for both parties.

 

In the World Series I think it's a bigger disadvantage for the NL team the way the system is currently set up. I don't know if this is accurate, but I assume that having a specific DH that was signed just to hit is a bigger advantage than the fact that we have a pitcher batting (more than likely is far below an average hitter) that has hit more often than the AL pitcher.

 

David Ortiz over Mike Fontenot?

Carlos Zambrano over Josh Beckett?

 

I think we know where the biggest advantage is.

 

So I would prefer no DH, but I think we need to at least keep the rules similar for both leagues.

 

Why are we DHing our worst hitter?

[go_cubs_go]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

haha good point

[NCCubFan]

Never thought I'd see the day when someone would be more whiney than George Steinbrenner.

You've convinced me. From here on out, I'm never referring to anyone from that family as anything other than Winebrenner.

I like Whinebrenner better.

[SouthSideRyan]

And to think MLB is worried about Cuban owning a team when there's a clown like this running baseball's most storied franchise.

 

Hank Steinbrenner is WHY MLB doesn't want a clown like Cuban running a team. They already have to deal with Hank Steinbrenner and Jeffrrey Loria as it is.

Not really. They had their shot at getting Loria out of the league. Instead, they handed him another team.

 

Contraction was taken off the table so no there wasn't an option but to let him keep the Expos in a move to DC OR to let him take over the Marlins where they felt he would do little damage and let Henry join the Red Sox group. I don't think they thought he would win a WS in a million years after what he did to the Expo franchise. I also think they figured contraction could come up again and the Marlins and their poor attendance, etc would be a likely candidate.

 

I'll never waver in my belief that Loria, Selig, and most of baseball's ownership were willing saboteurs of baseball in Montreal. After the job was done there, he was sent to Florida to do the same. Give me a free stadium or we'll move/get rid of you. Loria/Selig are rotten men, and thick as thieves.

[Andy]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

Neither do I. The novelty's more or less played out for me.

[CubbieBum]

And I have zero problem with removing interleague play altogether. Let those bozos in the AL have their DH and leave the NL alone.

Neither do I. The novelty's more or less played out for me.

 

If the only way we get to play the White Sox is to have interleague play then I'll live with the unfair balance of schedules and using the DH. Those series are worth it. That said MLB needs to throw out all the rivalries that aren't really aka keep Chicago, NT, LA, and maybe a couple others (not St. Louis and KC). Everyone else just plays a round robin type scheduling that the NFL does for AFC vs NFC.

[splintersag]

I am basically of the opinion that there should be no DH. At the same time, if it's impossible to take away the DH (which it is) then we need to have the same rule for both leagues. I would hate it for awhile, but if the NL did have the DH it would at least keep everything equal for both parties.

 

In the World Series I think it's a bigger disadvantage for the NL team the way the system is currently set up. I don't know if this is accurate, but I assume that having a specific DH that was signed just to hit is a bigger advantage than the fact that we have a pitcher batting (more than likely is far below an average hitter) that has hit more often than the AL pitcher.

 

David Ortiz over Mike Fontenot?

Carlos Zambrano over Josh Beckett?

 

I think we know where the biggest advantage is.

 

So I would prefer no DH, but I think we need to at least keep the rules similar for both leagues.

 

Why are we DHing our worst hitter?

 

We wouldn't DH Fontenot, but whoever we put wouldn't be nearly as good as Ortiz anyway. Edmonds? Johnson? Cedeno? None of those players are nearly as good as Big Papi. So the Cubs would be in a disadvantage if they played the Red Sox, Indians or another team that has a good permanent DH.

 

But another point is that most teams don't have a specific DH. This is from Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt, but

 

In recent years, full-time DHs have become less common, and the position has been used to give players a partial off-day, allowing them to bat but rest while the other team is batting. Only a handful of players compile over 400 at-bats as a DH each year.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I really enjoyed Bob's jab at Hank tonight when he said maybe they should condition their athletes better so they don't get hurt running the bases