Baseball History Thread

[shnsajax]

7 no-hitters tends to wow guys. Who knows how many 1-hitters he had as well.

 

12 1-hitters. Nolan Ryan would have been loved today by the Saberstatgeeks. He played on a lot of very average teams. Look at 1977 he goes 19-16 with an era of 2.77, 299 innings pitched, and 22 CG's.

 

Edit: I should have read a little further back too. Downfall of tapatalk for me.

[Sammys Boombox]

Every now and then I go and look at this page and just laugh.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/1981.shtml

[SouthSideRyan]

Every now and then I go and look at this page and just laugh.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/1981.shtml[/quote

 

I think the stupid Cardinals and their crappy club for jerks have been more than repaid for this by now karma.

[Banedon]

These are awesome...from 1946/47...

 

http://imgur.com/a/zmTht#0

 

http://i.imgur.com/P61i132.jpg

[George Hayduke]

Newly discovered video footage of the 1924 World Series.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/rare-world-series-footage-1924_n_5923094.html

[UMFan83]

Cool grantland article cataloging all the ways baseball was said to be dying throughout it's history. The first written account of baseball's demise was back in....1868:

 

Somehow or other, they don’t play ball nowadays as they used to some eight or ten years ago. I don’t mean to say they don’t play it as well. … But I mean that they don’t play with the same kind of feelings or for the same objects they used to. … It appears to me that ball matches have come to be controlled by different parties and for different purposes …

 

The next death blow for baseball was supposed to be players being traded, then it was competition from other spots like bicycling and trap shooting, then it was the automobile, and it keeps going and going.

 

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-dead-ball-century-mlb-baseball-playoffs-john-thorn-mlb-historian-baseball-decline-articles/

[Sammy Sofa]

That damn King of Siam is going to come flying in on his auto-gyro and ruin EVERYTHING.

[ConstableRabbit]

These are awesome...from 1946/47...

 

http://imgur.com/a/zmTht#0

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/P61i132.jpg

This is awesome. I'm assuming the "much discussed white shirts" are Cubs fans wearing white to distract opposing batters.

[Guest]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/14/the-time-the-yankees-played-the-dodgers-played-the-giants/

 

well thats pretty cool and insane

[OleMissCub]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/14/the-time-the-yankees-played-the-dodgers-played-the-giants/

 

well thats pretty cool and insane

 

Wow... That would be something to see.

[Banedon]

Via reddit....Babe Ruth lies unconscious after running headlong into a concrete wall...

 

http://i.imgur.com/TPeYN9V.jpg

[OleMissCub]

Vets Committee didn't vote anyone in. The candidates were:

 

Dick Allen

Ken Boyer

Gil Hodges

Bob Howsam

Jim Kaat

Minnie Minoso

Tony Oliva

Billy Pierce

Luis Tiant

Maury Wills

 

I wouldn't have put any of them in the hall either.

 

I suppose if I had to pick one I'd go with Boyer because of his positional scarcity in the HOF. Playing 3B he had 2,143 hits, 282 HR, .287/.349/.462, 116 OPS+, 1 MVP, Six Gold Gloves, 7 All-Star games. But then again...ehh...those numbers aren't really HOF worthy.

 

Dick Allen had some monster years and ended up with a career 156 OPS+, but he spent most of his career at first and from a stat standpoint just doesn't stand up with the other 1B in the HOF.

 

Tony Oliva was also the premier hitter in the AL for about an 8 year period, but his compiling stats aren't where they need to be.

[apete6]

Vets Committee didn't vote anyone in. The candidates were:

 

Dick Allen

Ken Boyer

Gil Hodges

Bob Howsam

Jim Kaat

Minnie Minoso

Tony Oliva

Billy Pierce

Luis Tiant

Maury Wills

 

I wouldn't have put any of them in the hall either.

 

I suppose if I had to pick one I'd go with Boyer because of his positional scarcity in the HOF. Playing 3B he had 2,143 hits, 282 HR, .287/.349/.462, 116 OPS+, 1 MVP, Six Gold Gloves, 7 All-Star games. But then again...ehh...those numbers aren't really HOF worthy.

 

Dick Allen had some monster years and ended up with a career 156 OPS+, but he spent most of his career at first and from a stat standpoint just doesn't stand up with the other 1B in the HOF.

 

Tony Oliva was also the premier hitter in the AL for about an 8 year period, but his compiling stats aren't where they need to be.

 

Yeah, it's a much bigger crime that there are 12-18 guys on this year's actual ballot that belong in than none of these "Hall of Good to Very Good" guys didn't get in. You can't tell the story of baseball without Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens--you can without all of those guys.

[OleMissCub]

So I just came across this...

 

Johnny Evers won an NL MVP in 1914 with the following stats: .279/.390/.338, 113 OPS+, 137 hits, 81 runs, 20 doubles, 3 triples, 1 HR, 40 RBI, 12 SB.

 

For comparison's sake, the AL winner that year, Eddie Collins was .344/.452/.452, 176 OPS+, 181 hits, 122 runs, 23 doubles, 14 triples, 2 HR, 85 RBI, 58 SB.

[squally1313]

http://deadspin.com/cool-1930s-home-video-shows-a-day-out-at-wrigley-field-1683613175

[Sammy Sofa]

Leo Durocher puts Dusty Baker when it comes to player abuse:

 

http://thestacks.deadspin.com/the-slow-destruction-of-pete-reiser-the-greatest-playe-1691040888

 

Really fantastic profile of Pete Resier from 1958. I had never heard of Reiser before reading it, but it's a great piece and just heartbreaking. He really was one of the "best who never was;" seemingly everyone in the game thought he was going to be incredible and one of the all-time greats. The guy put up a 7.5 WAR in his second season in 1941 in just 137 games. Only managed 357 games over the next 3 seasons but still put up a cumulative 8.5 WAR. That latter stat isn't all that impressive on the surface, but when you read the scope of the injuries and misuse the guy went through it's incredible he even survived to that point. He only managed to play in 309 games over the next 5 seasons and after 1952 he was gone (he spent 3 years in the army during WW2, so he only played 10 seasons and only 4 of those he managed to play in at least 100 games).

 

Seriously, read it. It's amazing and infuriating and just really what sports journalism should be.

[seanimal]

Leo Durocher puts Dusty Baker when it comes to player abuse:

 

http://thestacks.deadspin.com/the-slow-destruction-of-pete-reiser-the-greatest-playe-1691040888

 

Really fantastic profile of Pete Resier from 1958. I had never heard of Reiser before reading it, but it's a great piece and just heartbreaking. He really was one of the "best who never was;" seemingly everyone in the game thought he was going to be incredible and one of the all-time greats. The guy put up a 7.5 WAR in his second season in 1941 in just 137 games. Only managed 357 games over the next 3 seasons but still put up a cumulative 8.5 WAR. That latter stat isn't all that impressive on the surface, but when you read the scope of the injuries and misuse the guy went through it's incredible he even survived to that point. He only managed to play in 309 games over the next 5 seasons and after 1952 he was gone (he spent 3 years in the army during WW2, so he only played 10 seasons and only 4 of those he managed to play in at least 100 games).

 

Seriously, read it. It's amazing and infuriating and just really what sports journalism should be.

 

that was really great man, thanks for sharing

[OleMissCub]

It's sad to think that the name Pete Reiser could have easily been as second nature to us as the names Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle, yet none of us have even heard of the guy.

 

That was a brutal read. As easily as he was able to be knocked out, he must have literally had dozens of undiagnosed concussions.

 

Oh, and learning to throw with his other arm?? What a badass move.

[Sammy Sofa]

I wish you could force every meatball who goes bonkers when a player doesn't "run it out" or is injured or loves it when they go crashing into a wall or sliding in to first to read that. Obviously it's an extreme case, but so much of that was avoidable.

[NonProfitCow]

I wish you could force every meatball who goes bonkers when a player doesn't "run it out" or is injured or loves it when they go crashing into a wall or sliding in to first to read that. Obviously it's an extreme case, but so much of that was avoidable.

Sad story, but you guys realize that like half of it is complete bull [expletive] right?

[OleMissCub]

I wish you could force every meatball who goes bonkers when a player doesn't "run it out" or is injured or loves it when they go crashing into a wall or sliding in to first to read that. Obviously it's an extreme case, but so much of that was avoidable.

Sad story, but you guys realize that like half of it is complete bull [expletive] right?

 

How so

[NonProfitCow]

I wish you could force every meatball who goes bonkers when a player doesn't "run it out" or is injured or loves it when they go crashing into a wall or sliding in to first to read that. Obviously it's an extreme case, but so much of that was avoidable.

Sad story, but you guys realize that like half of it is complete bull [expletive] right?

 

How so

For starters, you don't get knocked out and wake up hours or days later unless you're in a movie.

[Sammy Sofa]

I wish you could force every meatball who goes bonkers when a player doesn't "run it out" or is injured or loves it when they go crashing into a wall or sliding in to first to read that. Obviously it's an extreme case, but so much of that was avoidable.

Sad story, but you guys realize that like half of it is complete bull [expletive] right?

 

How so

For starters, you don't get knocked out and wake up hours or days later unless you're in a movie.

 

It's likely a combination of embellishment and a guy who suffered multiple violent head injuries not remembering things clearly. It's not like the injuries didn't actually happen; he was repeatedly sent out there while still dealing with dizziness, poor balance, trouble seeing or splitting headaches, and that's not even counting the injuries to the rest of his body.

[OleMissCub]

First image of men playing baseball ever on film.

 

Members of the 48th New York Infantry. Fort Pulaski, Georgia, 1863.

 

http://i.imgur.com/coD4FSK.jpg

[OleMissCub]

Because I'm that bored. Best players for each jersey number. Looked at highest WAR with at least 10 years in that jersey as the determining factor.

 

No Number - Cy Young

0 - Al Oliver

1 - Ozzie Smith

2 - Derek Jeter

3 - A-Rod

4 - Gehrig

5 - Pujols

6 - Musial

7 - Mantle

8 - Joe Morgan

9 - Ted Williams

10 - Lefty Grove

11 - Barry Larkin

12 - Roberto Alomar

13 - A-Rod

14 - Pete Rose

15 - Red Ruffing

16 - Ted Lyons

17 - Todd Helton

18 - Johnny Damon

19 - Robin Yount

20 - Frank Robinson

21 - Roger Clemens

22 - Jim Palmer

23 - Ryne Sandberg

24 - Willie Mays

25 - Barry Bonds

26 - Wade Boggs

27 - Scott Rolen

28 - Bert Blyleven

29 - Rod Carew

30 - Nolan Ryan

31 - Greg Maddux

32 - Steve Carlton

33 - Larry Walker

34 - Kirby Puckett

35 - Phil Niekro

36 - Gaylord Perry

37 - Dave Stieb

38 - Curt Schilling

39 - Dave Parker

40 - Bartolo Colon

41 - Tom Seaver

42 - Jackie Robinson

43 - Dennis Eckersley

44 - Hank Aaron

45 - Bob Gibson

46 - Andy Pettitte

47 - Tom Glavine

48 - Rick Reuschel

49 - Ron Guidry

50 - Jamie Moyer

51 - Randy Johnson

52 - CC Sabathia

53 - Don Drysdale

54 - Goose Gossage

55 - Orel Hershiser

56 - Mark Buehrle

57 - Johan Santana

58 - Jonathan Papelbon

59 - Todd Jones

60 - Scott Schoeneweis

61 - Livan Hernandez

62 - Scott Shields

63 - Rafael Betancourt

64 to 69 - None

70 to 71 - None

72 - Carlton Fisk

73 - Ricardo Rincon

74 - None

75 - Barry Zito

76 to 79 - None

80 to 87 - None

88 - Rene Gonzalez

89 - None

90 to 99 - None

 

Thank to Logan for the format change.

Edited March 26, 2015 by OleMissCub