Baseball History Thread

[Clem Fandango]

 

No Number - Cy Young

0 - Al Oliver

1 - Ozzie Smith

2 - Derek Jeter

3 - Ruth

4 - Gehrig

5 - Pujols

6 - Musial

7 - Mantle

8 - Joe Morgan

9 - Ted Williams

10 - Lefty Grove

11 - Barry Larkin

12 - Roberto Alomar

13 - A-Rod

14 - Pete Rose

15 - Red Ruffing

16 - Ted Lyons

17 - Todd Helton

18 - Johnny Damon

19 - Robin Yount

20 - Frank Robinson

21 - Roger Clemens

22 - Jim Palmer

23 - Ryne Sandberg

24 - Willie Mays

25 - Barry Bonds

26 - Wade Boggs

27 - Scott Rolen

28 - Bert Blyleven

29 - Rod Carew

30 - Nolan Ryan

31 - Greg Maddux

32 - Steve Carlton

33 - Larry Walker

34 - Kirby Puckett

35 - Phil Niekro

36 - Gaylord Perry

37 - Dave Stieb

38 - Curt Schilling

39 - Dave Parker

40 - Bartolo Colon

41 - Tom Seaver

42 - Jackie Robinson

43 - Dennis Eckersley

44 - Hank Aaron

45 - Bob Gibson

46 - Andy Pettitte

47 - Tom Glavine

48 - Rick Reuschel

49 - Ron Guidry

50 - Jamie Moyer

51 - Randy Johnson

52 - CC Sabathia

53 - Don Drysdale

54 - Goose Gossage

55 - Orel Hershiser

56 - Mark Buehrle

57 - Johan Santana

58 - Jonathan Papelbon

59 - Todd Jones

60 - Scott Schoeneweis

61 - Livan Hernandez

62 - Scott Shields

63 - Rafael Betancourt

64 to 69 - None

70 to 71 - None

72 - Carlton Fisk

73 - Ricardo Rincon

74 - None

75 - Barry Zito

76 to 79 - None

80 to 87 - None

88 - Rene Gonzalez

89 - None

90 to 99 - None

 

 

Made that a bit easier to read. Also...

 

64 to 69 - None

 

Hopefully gonna be able to change that to include Soler 10 years from now

[Guest]

99 Turk Wendell

[OleMissCub]

99 Turk Wendell

 

Manny Ramirez wore 99 for three seasons.

 

Criteria to make the list was 10 seasons.

[Guest]

99 Turk Wendell

 

Manny Ramirez wore 99 for three seasons.

 

Criteria to make the list was 10 seasons.

Yeah but Turk was bat [expletive] crazy awesome. That should count for life me 20 WAR.

[OleMissCub]

99 Turk Wendell

 

Manny Ramirez wore 99 for three seasons.

 

Criteria to make the list was 10 seasons.

Yeah but Turk was bat [expletive] crazy awesome. That should count for life me 20 WAR.

 

Interestingly enough, Manny's WAR in those three seasons for the Dodgers was higher than Turk's lifetime WAR.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/numbers.cgi?number=99&year=0

[OleMissCub]

Just realized that I have to change #3 Ruth to A-Rod! Ruth only wore the number for 7 years. A-Rod wore it for 10. So A-Rod is on the list twice amazingly.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

How in the [expletive] am I just now realizing that he has already spent over 10 years with the Yankees?

[apete6]

How in the [expletive] am I just now realizing that he has already spent over 10 years with the Yankees?

 

Because, if you're like me, you haven't paid nearly as much attention to MLB the past few years while the Cubs have sucked so hard. That, and he's been injured/suspended a lot recently.

[Clem Fandango]

Large gallery of gifs featuring windups and swings of famous historical players:

 

http://imgur.com/a/r1JnH

[d_money]

Large gallery of gifs featuring windups and swings of famous historical players:

 

http://imgur.com/a/r1JnH

Those are all pretty cool. The best is that the film isn't in the typical fast forward old film. Cy Young looks like a big lanky/angular pitcher. Mel Ott drops his hands way low when swinging.

[d_money]

How in the [expletive] am I just now realizing that he has already spent over 10 years with the Yankees?

A-Rod is starting his 22nd year in the majors. Holy crap. I guess maybe his 21st after sitting out last yr, but still...

[Derwood]

Large gallery of gifs featuring windups and swings of famous historical players:

 

http://imgur.com/a/r1JnH

 

The "Ty Cobb stabbing an uppity negro" GIF isn't loading for me

[Felix Leiter]

I'll dispute #3, as that would exclude Babe Ruth. Since uniform #'s did not happen until 1929, the Babe's career had peaked by then.

 

Also no one would say Albert Pujols is even in the same conversation as Joe DiMaggio#5.

[George Hayduke]

Large gallery of gifs featuring windups and swings of famous historical players:

 

http://imgur.com/a/r1JnH

Ted Williams' swing is a thing of beauty.

[OleMissCub]

Collection of Babe Ruth gifs:

 

http://imgur.com/a/z7vTo

 

Simply beautiful:

 

http://i.imgur.com/5zb4gXR.gif

[Gmoney08]

I posted this in the random musings but it should probably go here..

 

 

Cubs fans looking for a good trivia question.. bet this would stump most of you, including me before today.

 

Without looking I challenge you to put your answer in the Spoiler.

 

 

Who has the Cubs record for highest WAR in a season with the Cubs and highest batting average single season (Modern ERA)?

 

 

Roger Hornsby..

 

So today I learned.. Roger Hornsby wasn't an old has been with the Cubs. I knew he played for the Cubs but always felt he was just another old guy way past his prime for the Cubs.

 

In 1929 he hit .380, .459 OBP, .679 SLG, 1.139 OPS, 178 OPS+, with 39 homers, 8 triples, 156 Runs, and 149 RBI's while winning the NL MVP on a Cubs team that won the pennant.

 

His WAR was 10.4 best in the majors, by comparison Ruth was 8.0 for 2nd best that year.

 

They also had Hack Wilson in the lineup that year hitting 39 HR's and 159 RBI's with a .345 batting average..

 

The next year Hack Wilson hit his famous 191 RBI's, Hornsby was hitting .325 and broke his ankle (out for year).. he was never the same after that...

 

[OleMissCub]

Good stuff! It's "Rogers" not "Roger" btw.

[TruffleShuffle]

i actually did know that one.

[TruffleShuffle]

some players who were most frequently robbed of MVP awards:

 

willie mays: led the national league in WAR 9 times, finished 2nd twice, 3rd once, 4th once; won the MVP only twice. in 1964 he posted an 11.1 bWAR and lost to ken boyer of the cardinals, who wasn't even in the top 10 in bWAR. in the 13 years from 1954 to 1966, he was in the top 4 in national league WAR every season - his worst season was either 1956, when he had a 7.6 bWAR (2nd in the NL) and a batting line of .296/.369/.557, or 1959, when he had a 7.8 bWAR (4th in the NL) and a batting line of .313/.381/.583.

 

ted williams: led the AL in bWAR 8 times, finished 2nd once, 3rd 6 times; won the MVP only twice. finished runner up in MVP voting in seasons with a batting line of .356/.499/.648 and .406/.553/.735. had a batting line of .388/.526/.731 at age 38.

 

babe ruth, led the AL in bWAR 10 times - but only won once because of a stupid rule that previous winners were ineligible.

 

rogers hornsby, led the NL in bWAR 11 times - but the MVP (formerly the chalmers award) was dropped the year that hornsby came into MLB, and didn't come back to the NL until a decade into his career. he did lead the national league in 5 of 6 years (1924-1929) that the League Award was presented, but only won it twice.

[OleMissCub]

Springboarding off a discussion about Bryant already having more 4K and 4BB games than Tony Gwynn ever did, I had some fun on BR this morning going through Gwynn's game logs.

 

In 2,440 games, he only had 33 games where he K'd twice and went through five seasons where he never K'd twice.

[shnsajax]

That's pretty insane, especially today.

[OleMissCub]

Three Finger Brown. Looks a bit like Nomo's delivery sans the high arm stretch. Maybe Sutcliffe?

 

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/brown-1.gif

[bukie]

Three guessses as to who this is, riding onto the field on a mule back in the 60s:

 

http://i.imgur.com/6pSrhlU.png

[treebird]

mule man, the famous mule riding baseball player

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Gary Coleman