Wainwright is hurt

[Banedon]

Carpenter, Wainwright, Mulder, Clement, Piniero

 

Closer: Isringhausen

 

 

Best all-injury pitching staff in the MLB?

[UMFan83]

I don't get why you people think this is a break for the Cubs...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't get why you people think this is a break for the Cubs...

 

It is.

[UMFan83]

I don't get why you people think this is a break for the Cubs...

 

It is.

 

How? They will just bring someone else up that will pitch just as well. And if he doesn't becuase Wainwright is their only legit starter, the rest of the team will still fluke their way into winning ball games. Net effect on the Cubs: 0

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't get why you people think this is a break for the Cubs...

 

It is.

 

How? They will just bring someone else up that will pitch just as well. And if he doesn't becuase Wainwright is their only legit starter, the rest of the team will still fluke their way into winning ball games. Net effect on the Cubs: 0

 

It would've been easier if you had said something irrational like "the Cardinals are going to win 100 games no matter who's on the roster" to begin with.

[UMFan83]

I don't get why you people think this is a break for the Cubs...

 

It is.

 

How? They will just bring someone else up that will pitch just as well. And if he doesn't becuase Wainwright is their only legit starter, the rest of the team will still fluke their way into winning ball games. Net effect on the Cubs: 0

 

It would've been easier if you had said something irrational like "the Cardinals are going to win 100 games no matter who's on the roster" to begin with.

 

I know, I just wanted to bait someone. Sorry it had to be you ;)

[sneakypower]

How? They will just bring someone else up that will pitch just as well. And if he doesn't becuase Wainwright is their only legit starter, the rest of the team will still fluke their way into winning ball games. Net effect on the Cubs: 0

man this board has a hell of a lot of disgusting Cardinals hyperbole and general penis envy

 

i'm getting nauseus and illiniguy hasnt even made an appearance yet

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Cubs last 11 seasons: 3 playoff appearances, no pennants, no 90-win regular seasons (excluding game 163), five losing seasons

 

Cardinals last 11 seasons: 6 playoff appearances, 2 pennants, 1 World Series title, 3 90-win regular seasons, 2 100-win regular seasons (in addition to the 3 90s), two losing seasons.

 

It's not their body parts we envy. And that's even with the timeframe (11 years) cherrypicked in the Cubs' favor and during the best era to be a Cubs fan in any of our lifetimes.

[VanceJergins]

Cubs last 11 seasons: 3 playoff appearances, no pennants, no 90-win regular seasons (excluding game 163), five losing seasons

 

Cardinals last 11 seasons: 6 playoff appearances, 2 pennants, 1 World Series title, 3 90-win regular seasons, 2 100-win regular seasons (in addition to the 3 90s), two losing seasons.

 

It's not their body parts we envy. And that's even with the timeframe (11 years) cherrypicked in the Cubs' favor and during the best era to be a Cubs fan in any of our lifetimes.

 

You're still disgusting! You're all disgusting! rabble

[CubsGM]

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=102217

White Sox fans are morons! Did they not hear about Bonderman and Westbrook and Zumaya?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Stop going to WSI. Don't you like yourself?

[sneakypower]

Cubs last 11 seasons: 3 playoff appearances, no pennants, no 90-win regular seasons (excluding game 163), five losing seasons

 

Cardinals last 11 seasons: 6 playoff appearances, 2 pennants, 1 World Series title, 3 90-win regular seasons, 2 100-win regular seasons (in addition to the 3 90s), two losing seasons.

 

It's not their body parts we envy. And that's even with the timeframe (11 years) cherrypicked in the Cubs' favor and during the best era to be a Cubs fan in any of our lifetimes.

and how does their success with Rolen, Edmonds playing at near MVP levels and Carpenter pre-TJS have any bearing on the present? if this was any other team, people could objectively realize that they're playing over their heads but the inferiority complex so prevalent precludes people from recognizing this.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Cubs last 11 seasons: 3 playoff appearances, no pennants, no 90-win regular seasons (excluding game 163), five losing seasons

 

Cardinals last 11 seasons: 6 playoff appearances, 2 pennants, 1 World Series title, 3 90-win regular seasons, 2 100-win regular seasons (in addition to the 3 90s), two losing seasons.

 

It's not their body parts we envy. And that's even with the timeframe (11 years) cherrypicked in the Cubs' favor and during the best era to be a Cubs fan in any of our lifetimes.

and how does their success with Rolen, Edmonds playing at near MVP levels and Carpenter pre-TJS have any bearing on the present? if this was any other team, people could objectively realize that they're playing over their heads but the inferiority complex so prevalent precludes people from recognizing this.

 

Because we keep hearing it and not seeing it. The Cardinals' management and coaching staff have proven that they are good at creating winning ballclubs.

 

It's June, they still haven't faded despite continual predictions that it's impending. And Ludwick didn't just fade from his April start, he *improved* on it in May.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Ludwick's OPS has dropped nearly 175 points in the last 2 weeks.

 

Wellemeyer got hurt just as he went past an IP threshold he hasn't seen since the Lugnuts were a Cub affiliate. Lohse faded in May, Looper was and continues to be terrible, and Piniero is hurt. And now their only legitimate starter is probably done for the season. I guess Jaime Garcia could come up and be good, but the odds are decidedly against that happening right away.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'll believe Wainwright is done for the season when it's announced, or at least confirmed that it's a rupture and not a sprain.

[abuck1220]

can't you babies just enjoy the cubs' success and stop worrying about the cardinals' "luck" or what they're saying at some white sox message board? you're acting like a pathetic, obnoxious combination of red sox and white sox fans.

[UMFan83]

Cubs last 11 seasons: 3 playoff appearances, no pennants, no 90-win regular seasons (excluding game 163), five losing seasons

 

Cardinals last 11 seasons: 6 playoff appearances, 2 pennants, 1 World Series title, 3 90-win regular seasons, 2 100-win regular seasons (in addition to the 3 90s), two losing seasons.

 

It's not their body parts we envy. And that's even with the timeframe (11 years) cherrypicked in the Cubs' favor and during the best era to be a Cubs fan in any of our lifetimes.

and how does their success with Rolen, Edmonds playing at near MVP levels and Carpenter pre-TJS have any bearing on the present? if this was any other team, people could objectively realize that they're playing over their heads but the inferiority complex so prevalent precludes people from recognizing this.

 

And Kyle is pointing out why there is an inferiority complex. Historically they have been better. This year when we have gotten out to a historically hot start (for us) a team full of rejects and scrap metal has come together and is only 2.5 games behind us.

[sneakypower]

good for them

 

they should enjoy delusions of contention while they still can

[chitowngui]

And they are only 2.5 games out. #-o :shock: :oops:

 

Ludwick's OPS has dropped nearly 175 points in the last 2 weeks.

Wellemeyer got hurt just as he went past an IP threshold he hasn't seen since the Lugnuts were a Cub affiliate. Lohse faded in May, Looper was and continues to be terrible, and Piniero is hurt. And now their only legitimate starter is probably done for the season. I guess Jaime Garcia could come up and be good, but the odds are decidedly against that happening right away.

[Tracer Bullet]

Ludwick's OPS has dropped nearly 175 points in the last 2 weeks.

 

Wellemeyer got hurt just as he went past an IP threshold he hasn't seen since the Lugnuts were a Cub affiliate. Lohse faded in May, Looper was and continues to be terrible, and Piniero is hurt. And now their only legitimate starter is probably done for the season. I guess Jaime Garcia could come up and be good, but the odds are decidedly against that happening right away.

 

I thought he sprained his finger. Is it much worse than earlier reports?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Ludwick's OPS has dropped nearly 175 points in the last 2 weeks.

 

Wellemeyer got hurt just as he went past an IP threshold he hasn't seen since the Lugnuts were a Cub affiliate. Lohse faded in May, Looper was and continues to be terrible, and Piniero is hurt. And now their only legitimate starter is probably done for the season. I guess Jaime Garcia could come up and be good, but the odds are decidedly against that happening right away.

 

I thought he sprained his finger. Is it much worse than earlier reports?

 

The initial reports were that it might be ruptured, then it came out that he sprained it, which is very vague. Will Carroll seemed to indicate that it's ruptured, and even if it's not, I read the best case scenario is he's out for a month

[wolf stansson]

Bernie Miklacz is reporting that MRI's reveal no tear; it is sprained and they are going to take it very slow with him.

[TruffleShuffle]

Bernie Miklacz is reporting that MRI's reveal no tear; it is sprained and they are going to take it very slow with him.

 

ned yost disagrees with this idea and thinks that wainwright should be on the mound by this weekend.

[Guest]

Bernie Miklacz is reporting that MRI's reveal no tear; it is sprained and they are going to take it very slow with him.

 

ned yost disagrees with this idea and thinks that wainwright should be on the mound by this weekend.

 

And throwing 115 pitches.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Heres the latest on Wainwright

 

Adam Wainwright-S-Cardinals Jul. 30 - 10:40 am et

 

Adam Wainwright (finger) is no longer scheduled to begin a minor league rehab assignment Friday after struggling during a bullpen session Tuesday.

 

General manager John Mozeliak suggested afterward that Wainwright's rehab stint may not begin until August 5. "It's one of those things where we take each bullpen as it comes," Mozeliak said.