Soriano injury

[Burtonbell]

I'm confused, how can there be no running in baseball, but there is hustling? Is that like fast walking?

 

I think if Aram walks faster, things will be much better for him.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Burtonbell

[Hairyducked Idiot]

this is seriously the worst train of thought I think I've ever seen on nsbb. At least since the "he stabbed him but it was no big deal because it was a small knife" thread.

 

Sliding into first base is faster because I timed a few of my friends doing it with a handheld stopwatch?

[Wilson A2000]

I'm confused, how can there be no running in baseball, but there is hustling? Is that like fast walking?

 

I think if Aram walks faster, things will be much better for him.

 

There is running, just not very much of it. So when it is your chance to run, make the most of it.

[imb]

this is seriously the worst train of thought I think I've ever seen on nsbb. At least since the "he stabbed him but it was no big deal because it was a small knife" thread.

 

Sliding into first base is faster because I timed a few of my friends doing it with a handheld stopwatch?

 

you win

[Wilson A2000]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling. At least not yet.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Wilson A2000

[weatherdood]

Memolo on WGN Radio confirms Sori to the 15 day DL and EPatt up to Chicago

[Wilson A2000]

 

Why did Utley say he made a bad throw?

 

Because Z was running?

 

and any runner would have hustled to try and beat the double play.

 

Now we're catching on! So hustling does help a team win.

 

it doesn't hurt. now, getting on base, hitting home runs, pitching well, and playing good defense helps a team win about 5 million times more. i'll take a slow runner who gets on base and hits home runs over a hustler who sucks at getting on base and doesn't hit for power any day of the week.

 

but you're right. hustling CAN help a team win. but it's about 10th on the list of things that help a team win.

 

I'll take a fast runner who gets on base and hits homers over anyone. I just want Soriano and Ramirez to be better players.

 

Lou has said that the Cubs need to get out to a fast start. I agree. That's why you hustle which can win you games. Of course it is 10th on the list. But doing the little things can win you games. I don't think the Cubs are going to blowout the Brewers. Last year the division came down to one game. Some games are decided by hustling.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

[Wilson A2000]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

[big_shooter17]

Have any of the reports said how long they expect Sori to be out? Is this going to be the 15 day minimum or will this be a lot longer? I have searched written reports and can find nothing.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

I forgot he got thrown out

[jaxxradio]

E Patt goes up and now ladies and gents.. you can make it official.. the Cubs want NO PART of Matt Murton anymore.. sad..

[bukie]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Actually hitting a double instead of a home run increases the chances you get thrown out at second by quite a bit more.

[CuseCubFan69]

E Patt goes up and now ladies and gents.. you can make it official.. the Cubs want NO PART of Matt Murton anymore.. sad..

 

I just think it's a top of the order thing. The Cubs want a guy who could lead off and they thought the best choice is Patterson. Their one dimensional thinking led to this imo, not a dislike of Murton.

[Wilson A2000]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

I forgot he got thrown out

 

You forgot I said "increases your chances."

[Clem Fandango]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Would your head explode if our team looked like this

 

LF: Manny Ramirez

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Barry Bonds

3B: Aramis Ramirez

2B: Alfonso Soriano

SS: Alex Rodriguez

1B: Ryan Howard

C: Mike Piazza

[Ding Dong Johnson]

You forgot I said "increases your chances."

you forgot that he cruised into 2nd with a double without getting thrown out

[Wilson A2000]

You forgot I said "increases your chances."

you forgot that he cruised into 2nd with a double without getting thrown out

 

No I didn't. We are talking about %s here. Do you believe that running harder to second increases the chance that you get there safely?

[Chocolate Milk]

I like how running hard has become the measure of trying hard. If you're not running, then you aren't trying, I guess.

[Wilson A2000]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Would your head explode if our team looked like this

 

LF: Manny Ramirez

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Barry Bonds

3B: Aramis Ramirez

2B: Alfonso Soriano

SS: Alex Rodriguez

1B: Ryan Howard

C: Mike Piazza

 

No it wouldn't. We are not comparing one player with another. We are comparing what one player could do compared to what they same player could do if he ran harder.

[Wilson A2000]

I like how running hard has become the measure of trying hard. If you're not running, then you aren't trying, I guess.

 

Are you trying harder if you ran slower than you actually could?

[Clem Fandango]

I like how running hard has become the measure of trying hard. If you're not running, then you aren't trying, I guess.

 

And by that measure there isn't a whole lot of trying in baseball since there isn't a whole lot of running, either.

 

I'm confused. What does all this have to do with Soriano's leg injury anyways? Shouldn't this stuff be split into a different thread? And hasn't there been 50 dozen Lazy Aramis threads already anyways?

Edited April 16, 2008 by The Logan

[Cansecos Roid Party]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Would your head explode if our team looked like this

 

LF: Manny Ramirez

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Barry Bonds

3B: Aramis Ramirez

2B: Alfonso Soriano

SS: Alex Rodriguez

1B: Ryan Howard

C: Mike Piazza

 

 

My head exploded just from THINKING about our team looking like this. Not only would we be the best team ever, we would also be the worst fielding team ever. Hey, Soriano also would have the worst OBP in that lineup too! We'd still hit him 1st though.

[CoolHandLuke]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Would your head explode if our team looked like this

 

LF: Manny Ramirez

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Barry Bonds

3B: Aramis Ramirez

2B: Alfonso Soriano

SS: Alex Rodriguez

1B: Ryan Howard

C: Mike Piazza

 

No it wouldn't. We are not comparing one player with another. We are comparing what one player could do compared to what they same player could do if he ran harder.

 

Cause about 30 throwing errors?

[Clem Fandango]

It's pretty unlikely that "hustling" out of the box is really going to mean the difference between a double and a triple. The instances where it actually would make a difference are probably few.

 

True, but no one has been arguing for stretching a double into a triple as the result of hustling.

then remind me what's the point in hammering on Aramis for his double?

 

Thinking you hit a homerun when it really is a double increases the chances you get thrown out at second.

 

It is one of my pet peeves.

 

Would your head explode if our team looked like this

 

LF: Manny Ramirez

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Barry Bonds

3B: Aramis Ramirez

2B: Alfonso Soriano

SS: Alex Rodriguez

1B: Ryan Howard

C: Mike Piazza

 

No it wouldn't. We are not comparing one player with another. We are comparing what one player could do compared to what they same player could do if he ran harder.

 

I wasn't comparing, I was making an observation about your pet peeve of players who watch their home runs, and by all means these players tend to watch their home runs more often than not