Khalil refuses to sign long-term in SD

[Clem Fandango]

Please find a reasonable way to get Greene. I might not mind Theriot off the bench.

 

Why do I get the feeling that all these trade rumors are going to blow away and we're ultimately going to be left with the team we've got right now?

 

Is there really any truth to this Greene to Chicago rumor, or is it all based on our wants and desires to get it done? Didn't it start with a rumor that a Pie for Greene trade was turned down last year. Then that lead to everyone wanting Khalil Greene after Meph convinced a lot of people so (myself included). Then the Padres interested in Murton thing. I think that opened up Murton + Whoever else for Greene. Has there been any newspaper rumors about us actually going after Greene lately, or are we all just hoping for the best and making up our own scenarios that seem so obviously smart to do that we start to believe the Cubs will do it?

 

I want Greene. So very very much. But is it really gonna happen?

[Soul]

Please find a reasonable way to get Greene. I might not mind Theriot off the bench.

 

Why do I get the feeling that all these trade rumors are going to blow away and we're ultimately going to be left with the team we've got right now?

 

Is there really any truth to this Greene to Chicago rumor, or is it all based on our wants and desires to get it done? Didn't it start with a rumor that a Pie for Greene trade was turned down last year. Then that lead to everyone wanting Khalil Greene after Meph convinced a lot of people so (myself included). Then the Padres interested in Murton thing. I think that opened up Murton + Whoever else for Greene. Has there been any newspaper rumors about us actually going after Greene lately, or are we all just hoping for the best and making up our own scenarios that seem so obviously smart to do that we start to believe the Cubs will do it?

 

I want Greene. So very very much. But is it really gonna happen?

 

Probably not. It's a lot of fantasy, mixed with a few tidbits from the writers that may or may not indicate anything.

[David]

Other than Rosenthal casually mentioning the possibility that the Cubs could go after Greene since the Pads want Murton, not really.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

There really isn't any incentive for SD to trade Greene right now considering they control him for 2 more seasons, so they willl have to be blown away with an offer IMO. Towers also knows that Greene is a stud outside of Petco, and he knows that other smart GM's know this. Eventually he will be traded to the Red Sox, I think.

[Clem Fandango]

There really isn't any incentive for SD to trade Greene right now considering they control him for 2 more seasons, so they willl have to be blown away with an offer IMO. Towers also knows that Greene is a stud outside of Petco, and he knows that other smart GM's know this. Eventually he will be traded to the Red Sox, I think.

 

Where good shortstops go to die!

[nilodnayr]

There really isn't any incentive for SD to trade Greene right now considering they control him for 2 more seasons, so they willl have to be blown away with an offer IMO. Towers also knows that Greene is a stud outside of Petco, and he knows that other smart GM's know this. Eventually he will be traded to the Red Sox, I think.

 

God, he'd be a lock to hit 30 HRs a year with the Green Monster.

[Backtobanks]

I posted in the Byrd thread that expanding the trade idea with the Padres to acquire Hairston with Greene would eliminate the need for Byrd. Obviously, the offer would start with Murton and Cedeno. How about adding on Patterson (to back up Edmonds) and Marshall?

[nilodnayr]

I posted in the Byrd thread that expanding the trade idea with the Padres to acquire Hairston with Greene would eliminate the need for Byrd. Obviously, the offer would start with Murton and Cedeno. How about adding on Patterson (to back up Edmonds) and Marshall?

 

Still need more, at least Gallagher. I also don't believe the Padres would turn over Greene and replace him with a risky player like Cedeno. Teams who want to contend don't do that.

[Backtobanks]

I posted in the Byrd thread that expanding the trade idea with the Padres to acquire Hairston with Greene would eliminate the need for Byrd. Obviously, the offer would start with Murton and Cedeno. How about adding on Patterson (to back up Edmonds) and Marshall?

 

Still need more, at least Gallagher. I also don't believe the Padres would turn over Greene and replace him with a risky player like Cedeno. Teams who want to contend don't do that.

 

All of this discussion goes back to an old thread in which I suggested a 3-way deal with the Padres and Pirates. Don't remember all the details, but basically it sent Bay and Jack Wilson to the Padres with Greene (and maybe Hairston) coming to the Cubs while Headley, Murton, Cedeno, Gallagher/Marshall went to the Pirates.

[nilodnayr]

I posted in the Byrd thread that expanding the trade idea with the Padres to acquire Hairston with Greene would eliminate the need for Byrd. Obviously, the offer would start with Murton and Cedeno. How about adding on Patterson (to back up Edmonds) and Marshall?

 

Still need more, at least Gallagher. I also don't believe the Padres would turn over Greene and replace him with a risky player like Cedeno. Teams who want to contend don't do that.

 

All of this discussion goes back to an old thread in which I suggested a 3-way deal with the Padres and Pirates. Don't remember all the details, but basically it sent Bay and Jack Wilson to the Padres with Greene (and maybe Hairston) coming to the Cubs while Headley, Murton, Cedeno, Gallagher/Marshall went to the Pirates.

 

 

Yeah I mentioned that yesterday (and credited you), I think it was in this thread. You should dig it up because I think its the only way it'll happen. My thoughts are that Jack Wilson is fairly undervalued in the market because of his defense (although Huntington probably realizes that). Greene is a great player but isn't the type of guy for his home stadium. While hes obviously a better hitter than Jack Wilson, Wilson can probably be as effective in Petco because hes not such an extreme fly ball hitter (Wilson is roughly middle of the pack, while Greene is far and away the leader for SS). Also, obviously the Padres want a corner OF and there aren't many better than Bay. In your scenario the padres would have to kick in some decent prospects. IIRC, the Padres don't have a great system, but they'd have to contribute something pretty decent. Greene for Wilson is lopsided, but Headley for Bay is way more lopsided.

 

Huntington hasnt done much with his players and has focused more on his staff. Hes stated that the team underacheived and hes not going to sell low, but I think presented with a fair package for both players (with possibly us having to take Morris off his hands), he'd most definitely consider a rebuild of his system.

[rawaction]

FYI, I originated the 3-way deal with the Cubs, Pirates, and Padres. :D

[nilodnayr]

FYI, I originated the 3-way deal with the Cubs, Pirates, and Padres. :D

Dont you know its illegal to propose a three way deal without the express written consent of BTB?

[Backtobanks]

FYI, I originated the 3-way deal with the Cubs, Pirates, and Padres. :D

Dont you know its illegal to propose a three way deal without the express written consent of BTB?

 

Thanks for putting him in his place. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[traderumor]

Looks like the padres are already shopping Greene and the cubs are interested :

 

 

 

 

The Padres have reportedly been shopping shortstop Khalil Greene to several teams. One team is the Angels, who may be willing to part with Reggie Willits in a trade. Acquiring Willits would give them the long term outfielder they need. Many think the Padres could also land Erik Aybar, who could definitely help the Padres as well. In 136 games, Willits hit .293 with 0 HR, 34 RBI, 27 SB, and an OBP of .391. He would make for a great leadoff guy for the Padres, and a solid center fielder when Jim Edmonds leaves. Greene, who batted .254 with 27 HR and 97 RBI, is also drawing interest from the Cubs, Cardinals, Red Sox, and Orioles

 

http://www.elismlbrumors.com

 

 

 

Get it done Hendry forget the orioles !

[nilodnayr]

Looks like the padres are already shopping Greene and the cubs are interested :

 

 

 

 

The Padres have reportedly been shopping shortstop Khalil Greene to several teams. One team is the Angels, who may be willing to part with Reggie Willits in a trade. Acquiring Willits would give them the long term outfielder they need. Many think the Padres could also land Erik Aybar, who could definitely help the Padres as well. In 136 games, Willits hit .293 with 0 HR, 34 RBI, 27 SB, and an OBP of .391. He would make for a great leadoff guy for the Padres, and a solid center fielder when Jim Edmonds leaves. Greene, who batted .254 with 27 HR and 97 RBI, is also drawing interest from the Cubs, Cardinals, Red Sox, and Orioles

 

http://www.elismlbrumors.com

 

 

 

Get it done Hendry forget the orioles !

 

Reggie Willits? Seriously?

[Post Count Padder]

Looks like the padres are already shopping Greene and the cubs are interested :

 

 

 

 

The Padres have reportedly been shopping shortstop Khalil Greene to several teams. One team is the Angels, who may be willing to part with Reggie Willits in a trade. Acquiring Willits would give them the long term outfielder they need. Many think the Padres could also land Erik Aybar, who could definitely help the Padres as well. In 136 games, Willits hit .293 with 0 HR, 34 RBI, 27 SB, and an OBP of .391. He would make for a great leadoff guy for the Padres, and a solid center fielder when Jim Edmonds leaves. Greene, who batted .254 with 27 HR and 97 RBI, is also drawing interest from the Cubs, Cardinals, Red Sox, and Orioles

 

http://www.elismlbrumors.com

 

 

 

Get it done Hendry forget the orioles !

 

Reggie Willits? Seriously?

You have got to be kidding. Eric Patterson>>>>>>Reggie Willits.

[David]

I wonder if there's anything legit to that report beyond just taking the Rosenthal mention and tying the Cubs into it from that.

[Clem Fandango]

That rumor is based on a fan mailbag question about an Angel;s fan asking if there were rumblings about Greene. The rest has no validation behind it whatsoever.

[RammyFanny]

It's never said anywhere in text that SD was shopping Greene to any team, so just disregard anything from Elis. Some mailbag fan wrote in asking if the writer would trade for him and the writer said Greene is such a nice guy, blah blah blah. Nothing about anything.

[JeffH]

Eli should quit worrying about MLB rumors and focus on quarterbacking the Giants.

[imb]

Who is going to play cleanup for us this year?

[Illini Iceman]

I posted in the Byrd thread that expanding the trade idea with the Padres to acquire Hairston with Greene would eliminate the need for Byrd. Obviously, the offer would start with Murton and Cedeno. How about adding on Patterson (to back up Edmonds) and Marshall?

 

Still need more, at least Gallagher. I also don't believe the Padres would turn over Greene and replace him with a risky player like Cedeno. Teams who want to contend don't do that.

 

My impression is that Hendry really likes Theriot and based on that I doubt he is going to give up a huge amount to replace a guy that he does not see as a liability. If Greene were to fall into has lap with a package of something like Murton, Patterson, and Marshall I could see him doing it but I can't see him making a big reach to get it done.

[RammyFanny]

Eli should quit worrying about MLB rumors and focus on quarterbacking the Giants.

Whoa, for some reason i've been pronouncing it "Ell Iss" in my head. I hadn't even thought of Eli's for some strange reason.

[BigbadB]

My impression is that Hendry really likes Theriot and based on that I doubt he is going to give up a huge amount to replace a guy that he does not see as a liability. If Greene were to fall into has lap with a package of something like Murton, Patterson, and Marshall I could see him doing it but I can't see him making a big reach to get it done.

 

Of course he likes Theriot. And if he likes him that much, he can turn Theriot into the super sub he so desires. Theriot can fill in for Pie in CF against a tough lefty, fill in for DeRosa at 2nd and once in a blue moon give Greene a day or rest or even fill in for Greene if he goes on the DL.

 

The Padres won't want Theriot. They'd probably want Cedeno since he has much more upside than Theriot. I'd put together a package that rivaled or might even be better than what they offered for Roberts to get Greene. Greene is a bigger need to this team than Roberts, IMO.

 

And the defense would get an even bigger lift than it already has with Greene shagging balls at SS.

[WilcoFan]

I would not be at all surprised to see the Cubs trade for Greene....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then move Theriot to 2B and sit DeRosa.