HAPPY MITCHELL REPORT DAY!!!!!!!! Clemens named.

[Guest]

What bothers me is that the players are the ones being thrown under the bus. Yeah, many of them did cheat but the GM's and managers knew in many cases and I don't see why no one is mentioning this. I wonder how LaRussa is skating free in all of this.

 

Because it's so much harder to prove that the GM's and the managers knew about players taking steroids than it is to prove that the players took steroids. Obviously many of the GM's and especially the managers probably did know what was going on but how do you go about showing that?

[ZMovieman]

The New York Times is reporting that apparently one player was able to keep his name off the list. Mitchell apparently confirmed this:

 

One active major league player was able to keep his name out of the former Senator George J. Mitchell's report on performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, even though Mitchell had evidence that he bought them, Mitchell said in an interview Friday. The unidentified player offered persuasive evidence that he had disposed of the drugs without using them, Mitchell said. Mitchell said the player and Kirk Radomski, the former Mets clubhouse attendant who sold drugs to dozens of major league players from 1995 through 2005 and provided evidence to Mitchell as part of a plea bargain, each confirmed that the player had bought drugs. But Mitchell said Radomski never saw him using them, and he believed the player's account when they talked.

 

I'll bet his name still gets released.

[The Voice of Reason]

Hey Roger, care to take back your lawyer's bogus denial and be a man like your buddy Andy and admit you took PEDs?

 

From Rotoworld:

 

Pettitte admits to former HGH usage

 

Andy Pettitte admitted Saturday to using HGH on two occasions back in 2002.

 

"If what I did was an error in judgment on my part, I apologize," Pettitte said in a statement released by his agent. "I accept responsibility for those two days." Pettitte is admitting that former trainer Brian McNamee's statements in the Mitchell Report were accurate, even though he must know he's burying good friend Roger Clemens in the process. If McNamee was telling the truth about Pettitte's usage, then why should anyone believe he's lying about personally injecting Clemens with steroids? Dec. 15 - 5:45 pm et

[OleMissCub]

Can anyone guess this 400+ HR guy who didn't need roids?

 

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4784/img698ps0.jpg

[Soul]

Can anyone guess this 400+ HR guy who didn't need roids?

 

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4784/img698ps0.jpg

 

Is that Mantle?

[Soul]

Hey Roger, care to take back your lawyer's bogus denial and be a man like your buddy Andy and admit you took PEDs?

 

From Rotoworld:

 

Pettitte admits to former HGH usage

 

Andy Pettitte admitted Saturday to using HGH on two occasions back in 2002.

 

"If what I did was an error in judgment on my part, I apologize," Pettitte said in a statement released by his agent. "I accept responsibility for those two days." Pettitte is admitting that former trainer Brian McNamee's statements in the Mitchell Report were accurate, even though he must know he's burying good friend Roger Clemens in the process. If McNamee was telling the truth about Pettitte's usage, then why should anyone believe he's lying about personally injecting Clemens with steroids? Dec. 15 - 5:45 pm et

 

Hahah. Yes, it was just two days, honest.

 

Hahahahahah. Well at least he admitted *something*

[OleMissCub]

Is that Mantle?

 

No, but good guess.

[UK1679666180]

It looks like Lou Gehrig.

[David]

It looks like Lou Gehrig.

 

Pic looks old enough to be him, too.

[OleMissCub]

It looks like Lou Gehrig.

 

Ding Ding!

 

 

I also found this picture of the Big Train. Crazy orangutan arms he had.

 

 

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9044/pitcher2ea8.jpg

[Clem Fandango]

Hey Roger, care to take back your lawyer's bogus denial and be a man like your buddy Andy and admit you took PEDs?

 

From Rotoworld:

 

Pettitte admits to former HGH usage

 

Andy Pettitte admitted Saturday to using HGH on two occasions back in 2002.

 

"If what I did was an error in judgment on my part, I apologize," Pettitte said in a statement released by his agent. "I accept responsibility for those two days." Pettitte is admitting that former trainer Brian McNamee's statements in the Mitchell Report were accurate, even though he must know he's burying good friend Roger Clemens in the process. If McNamee was telling the truth about Pettitte's usage, then why should anyone believe he's lying about personally injecting Clemens with steroids? Dec. 15 - 5:45 pm et

 

Hahah. Yes, it was just two days, honest.

 

Hahahahahah. Well at least he admitted *something*

 

I hate Andy Pettite, and the ridiculous "Great Pitcher" love he gets from everyone just because he was a Yankee with a lot of wins. Have any of these people actually looked at his numbers? They're not that spectacular. It ticks me off when people refer to him as an elite pitcher. I'm glad this knocks him down a bit.

[Yanksfan1523]

Hey Roger, care to take back your lawyer's bogus denial and be a man like your buddy Andy and admit you took PEDs?

 

From Rotoworld:

 

Pettitte admits to former HGH usage

 

Andy Pettitte admitted Saturday to using HGH on two occasions back in 2002.

 

"If what I did was an error in judgment on my part, I apologize," Pettitte said in a statement released by his agent. "I accept responsibility for those two days." Pettitte is admitting that former trainer Brian McNamee's statements in the Mitchell Report were accurate, even though he must know he's burying good friend Roger Clemens in the process. If McNamee was telling the truth about Pettitte's usage, then why should anyone believe he's lying about personally injecting Clemens with steroids? Dec. 15 - 5:45 pm et

 

Hahah. Yes, it was just two days, honest.

 

Hahahahahah. Well at least he admitted *something*

 

I hate Andy Pettite, and the ridiculous "Great Pitcher" love he gets from everyone just because he was a Yankee with a lot of wins. Have any of these people actually looked at his numbers? They're not that spectacular. It ticks me off when people refer to him as an elite pitcher. I'm glad this knocks him down a bit.

 

 

I would not refer to Pettitte as an elite pitcher. His stats may not be remarkable. He is a big game pitcher though. I would want Pettitte (in his prime) pitching game 2 of any playoff series when the team lost game 1. Pettitte/Maddux game 5 in 96 is still one wonderful game to watch.

 

And Yes, it bothers me he is listed, even though I knew he was coming due to his association with Clemens.

[Bote McBoteface]

Who was that guy who played for the rockies in 2002, and every time he came up to bat, Joe Carter would say he "worked out too much and lost the flexibility needed to get around on inside pitches." Was it Gabe Kapler? I always thought he was a pretty obvious juicer and was surprised not to see his name.

[Yanksfan1523]

I have always said Kapler was juiced. He was a ripped beast in the minors.

[Clem Fandango]

http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Gabe_Kapler

http://gabekaplerfails.ytmnd.com/

 

Good times, Gabe Kapler. Good times.

[hardcorecubfan]

tejada was such an obvious choice on that sheet, a shortstop hitting 50 hmruns and winning the homerun derby contest, going from 16 at the start of his career to 225 and all muscle in a year.

 

can you imagine in our SS, Ernie, would have had access to that stuff, thank god he didn't