HAPPY MITCHELL REPORT DAY!!!!!!!! Clemens named.

[Banedon]

Farnsworth? Jose Hernandez? Benito Santiago? GlenAllen Hill? Sosa?

 

I'm guessing Karchner never saw Sosa do it. Sosa has managed to not be named in anything, so if he did it, he did it very discreetly.

 

I could see Farnsworth easily. And Hill is in the report, so could be.

[E.J.]

The real report is nothing like the one posted earlier. I'm surprised about Gagne but most of these guys were no-brainers to pinpoint.

 

Really? I'm not surprised by Gagne at all. He was a beast a few years ago and then broke down.

[OleMissCub]

I highly doubt that Karchner would have been sharing an apartment with any of those guys besides Farnsworth.

 

Good point. Hmmmm...Tyler Houston, Terry Adams?

[jersey cubs fan]

So what the hell is the point of this report? We all knew performance enhancing drug use was somewhat widespread in the sport of baseball. It's not like the Mitchell Report provides an all inclusive list of users. If we knew the name of everyone who used, then the report could be beneficial..As is...I'm failing to see what benefit this provides...?

 

I don't know the point, but hopefully it can be a tipping point were it becomes less and less of a story. I do think there needs to be more of a concerted effort to keeps kids from playing with roids, and perhaps this can shed a little more light on that subject.

 

But when all is said and done, there probably isn't a point, other than giving Bud a chance to say "get the hell off my back already."

[Banedon]

MERCKER!

[Bixby]

It looks like Glenallen's use came from playing with the Mariners in 1998 maybe...

 

"Hill also said he met this player

during the 1998 season. Hill said that “David” admitted using steroids and was knowledgeable

about its effects and the different types of anabolic steroids.

In late 2000, Hill contacted “David” and was given Radomski’s contact

information. According to Hill, he had approximately five telephone conversations with

Radomski about the use and effects of steroids. Hill recalled that Radomski sold him Sustanon.

Hill believed he paid him by check in either late 2000 or early 2001. According to Hill, he never

used the anabolic steroids that he bought from Radomski."

 

99% to be Segui?

[pitchcs]

I highly doubt that Karchner would have been sharing an apartment with any of those guys besides Farnsworth.

 

Good point. Hmmmm...Tyler Houston, Terry Adams?

 

For sure Tyler Houston. My guess at a good formula for lots of users:

 

Highly touted prospects who don't pan out will try anything.

[Iceblink]

Which 1999 Cubs were taking roids? Kartchner identified that there were at least 2 of them, but the passage makes it seem like several players were.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/1999.shtml

 

Manny Alexander

Glennallen Hill

 

Both on the 99 Cubs and named in the report...

 

Ray King. He was using the dingdongstronol prescription, the evilest steroid of them all.

[Sammy Sofa]

There are the biggest bums on this list.

 

Probably imflamed from funky injections.

[reds44]

Probably has been posted already, but I'll do it in case it hasn't.

 

Wood and Prior aren't named in the report.

[ISUCubsFan]

Jack Cust. I guess I should've seen that one comming.

[YearofDaCubs]

Farnsworth? Jose Hernandez? Benito Santiago? GlenAllen Hill? Sosa?

 

I'm guessing Karchner never saw Sosa do it. Sosa has managed to not be named in anything, so if he did it, he did it very discreetly.

 

I could see Farnsworth easily. And Hill is in the report, so could be.

Sosa was smart about it. He probably got his roids from the Dominican. Didn't he get robbed or lost 10k in cash once? I don't know the specifics.

[jersey cubs fan]

The comparison to Northern Ireland wasn't about saying they are equal, it was about saying it's difficult to forgive and forget the past, and move on. I don't see how anybody could have a problem with that.

[E.J.]

Wow. Could this guy speaking be any more nervous? He sounds like he's ready to puke on the podium.

[OleMissCub]

OK, I think I got it..

 

Marvin Benard

Barry Bonds

Bobby Estalella

Jason Giambi

Jeremy Giambi

Benito Santiago

Gary Sheffield

Randy Velarde

Lenny Dysktra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettite

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Greg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangello

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Todd Pratt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody Mckay

Kent Mercker

Andy Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christianson

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston Jr.

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Chad Allen

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagne

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett Jr.

Jim Parque

Brandon Donnelly

Jeff Williams

Howie Clark

Nook Logan

Daniel Naulty

Rick Ankiel

Paul Byrd

Jay Gibbons

Troy Glaus

Jose Guillen

Gary Matthews, Jr.

Scott Schoeneweis

Jose Canseco

Jason Grimsley

Darren Holmes

John Rocker

Ismael Valdez

Matt Williams

Steve Woodard

David Bell

 

Think that's all.

[jmajew]

So that first list that was fake. So much for reliable contacts.

[pitchcs]

Looks like David Segui could be linked to about 1/2 the guys on there.

[SouthSideRyan]

not being in the report =/= not doing steroids

 

This is why this is a huge waste of everybody's time. Nobody's going to be exonerated ever because people have their personal beliefs on who was using and they'll never let them die. Not on the list? List must be a joke.

[Derwood]

Glenallen Hill..... :(

 

:(

 

But really, do you think he hit that 8393923 foot home run by himself?

 

he should've just used a corked bat, right?

[ISUCubsFan]

not being in the report =/= not doing steroids

 

This is why this is a huge waste of everybody's time. Nobody's going to be exonerated ever because people have their personal beliefs on who was using and they'll never let them die. Not on the list? List must be a joke.

 

QFT

[wekse]

Matt Karchner pitched for two teams in Major League Baseball between 1995 and

2000, the Chicago Cubs and the Chicago White Sox. Members of my investigative staff

contacted him as part of our effort to interview former major league players.

 

Karchner said that during spring training in 1999, he observed two of his Chicago

Cubs teammates inject themselves with steroids in an apartment that Karchner was sharing with

them. Karchner declined to identify the players. He said that one of the players brought the

steroids to the apartment but was afraid of needles and therefore asked the second player to

administer the shot. The second player injected the first player with steroids in the buttocks and

then injected himself.

 

Later that season, Karchner was offered steroids by certain of his Cubs

teammates. Karchner would not disclose the names of players who offered him steroids, but he

said that the conversations he had with them involved the general cost of steroids and discussions

of “stacking” to build lean muscle necessary for pitchers. Karchner did not report either of these

incidents to anyone at the time.

 

I saw that. Wood was injured in 99 though, right? So I don't think he'd be one of those guys.

 

 

my guesses are farnsworth and hill

[Roast]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

[YearofDaCubs]

Most of these guys are scrubs. Considering how many players were called out, I think this report favors MLB. Sure, Clemens, Pettitte, Gagne, and others are in there but overall, most of these guys are not big time players.

[Iceblink]

Most of these guys are scrubs. Considering how many players were called out, I think this report favors MLB. Sure, Clemens, Pettitte, Gagne, and others are in there but overall, most of these guys are not big time players.

 

Well, Clemens and Bonds are the best pitcher and hitter of the last 20 or 30 years.

[E.J.]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

 

"Roast is crazy"